PG Celtics - Bucks Fall

[Dick Tate]

So Brook is now playable against Boston.

Him going from non-factor to the key to beating them in the playoffs would be the best thing ever.

[Dick Tate]

Imagine what the Celtics are going to look like when Porzingis and Horford are inevitably hurt.

Yikes

Boston may have eight starters but they ain’t got no bench.

[JaMarco]

Imagine what the Celtics are going to look like when Porzingis and Horford are inevitably hurt.

Yikes

I dont think Horford is quite as big of a deal against other teams as he is against us, but big AGREE on KP. If KP could stay healthy, he never would have bounced around the league this much. The Celtics would not have been able to get him for what they did if not for that massive asterisk. Very talented player, big gamble on their part. It COULD pay off but odds are it wont.

You're right that KP will most likely get hurt and it won't work out for Boston, but I don't know if it's a "big gamble". What did they gamble, Marcus Smart? They were never going to win a championship with that old core.

[Dick Tate]

Dame has played way too long in a 2 PG lineup. He constantly waives off the ball and walks up court. He needs to be reprogrammed. He's not playing with CJ anymore.

No. But he is playing with pain.

[greekbuck34]

Just finished the game.

Defense was terrible as expected. Everytime Giannis or Lopez stayed to their men we allowed a layup. Everytime either of them helped inside they hit the 3. Rebound wise we looked more than fine though so that's something.

Our Offense though, even with an out of shorts Giannis and a cold Dame in the 1st half, looked good imo. We got the looks we wanted, we didn't turn the ball over too much and we attacked with multiple ways. We missed like 15 dunks and layups. We are talking about 90% shot opportunities. Giannis looked like he was playing with oil on his hands.

We just needed a bit more time in the clutch and not just 1 minute in the end. This is where they lose their ****.

[mediocrityrules]

Imagine what the Celtics are going to look like when Porzingis and Horford are inevitably hurt.

Yikes

Boston may have eight starters but they ain’t got no bench.

Jrue also seems to be on a downward slide. He's been very average the last 3-4 games now for Boston.

[Prez]

Giannis was ass, not gonna win many games against good opponents when that’s the case.

We’re good, but we’re not a fully serious team while we’re starting Beasley and barely playing Dre. Fact that 15 games into the season we willingly went into a Celtics matchup still doing that, is just malpractice. It’s time to get serious and start Dre.

Honestly a not a bad loss. Not concerned about the Celtics tbh, they were a truly bad matchup in the past but don’t really see that anymore, now it’s just more on the Bucks to play up to their ability and play the right guys/lineups than anything imo.

[Sigra]

I see nothing to worry about. Giannis is going to play smart against Wizards for sure.

[Sigra]

“When you miss a lot of shots, usually it's what the opposing team is doing," Lillard said of the slow start. ‘When you look at how we played, we just didn’t execute well. We didn't have good pace to our offense, we didn't make extra passes, we didn't screen for each other; a lot of things we have to do."

Indeed Dame. Indeed. And when you say "we didnt screen" you clearly mean "they" because nobody expect you to screen

[-Jragon-]

Sometimes I wish MVP trophies didnt exist and Giannis didn't care if he's on the ladder... just give Dame the damn ball and get open - wtf

[yannisk]

Giannis missed a ton of shots he usually makes. Lillard finished the game very well but he has not been his efficient self the first part of the season. Still we lost only by 3 because we have much firepower. I think we should trade some of that firepower for better defensive players or hope that the young guys develop fast. At the moment we are unbalanced.

Celtics starters are all good individual defenders so they will have good defense. I don't trust as much their offense, when the things get tough they revert to Jays isos.

[AussieBuck]

Random off game. Not a **** given

[greekbuck34]

It's insane how easily a team with defense as its identity for +5 years can turn into a "I will try to outscore you" all of a sudden.
We are like the Nets, the Hawks, the pre chip Nuggets, Dallas etc right now. We can't stop anyone but we are getting whatever we want on offense even in the half court offense where we were always struggling in the past.

Giannis who was top 3 in rim protection(less than 6ft) DFG% for 5-6 seasons straight right now has 66.7% which is beyond garbage. **** Trae Young has 68% for example. Giannis had 48% last season. WTF happened? It's only 13-14 games but its amazing it's so over the league average(61.8) right now.

He had 42% DFG last season with every kind of shot way bellow the league average and right now he has 50.3%.

He turned from a glue help defender keeping our defense together and bailing us out after a break down to a basic wing defender in the perimeter focusing on one guy most of the time or leaving him alone to try and futilely contest one of the 100s of blow by drives in the paint.

[ShootingtheJ]

“When you miss a lot of shots, usually it's what the opposing team is doing," Lillard said of the slow start. ‘When you look at how we played, we just didn’t execute well. We didn't have good pace to our offense, we didn't make extra passes, we didn't screen for each other; a lot of things we have to do."

Indeed Dame. Indeed. And when you say "we didnt screen" you clearly mean "they" because nobody expect you to screen

Dame screening is awesome offense. When he screens for Giannis, it leads to Giannis dunks or open Dame 3s.

[Sigra]

Oh yes, legendary "Sacrifice your body for big guy" play. Like this one (1:30)

Watch on YouTube

[jschligs]

Imagine what the Celtics are going to look like when Porzingis and Horford are inevitably hurt.

Yikes

Boston may have eight starters but they ain’t got no bench.

It’s funny cuz what little bench went 6/10 from deep on us and 12/19. So what they have is good but if they have any injuries they’re screwed.

[pifhluk23]

Everyone got toasted on defense. Beasley wasn't the worst

Not even close. I’m surprised there aren’t more people clamoring for Mids to come off the bench and be our Ginobli. It makes sense imo

I’d bring Midds and Beas off the bench. Run Midds post ups with Beas feeding him and being the one pass off guy.

I’d start Marjon and Dre with Dame/Giannis/Brook. The starting lineup needs that energy and defense. Plus then you distribute the minutes of the higher volume shooters.

The current starting lineup is too many guys who need shots to get in rhythm. Beas ability to be a flamethrower when he gets on a heater is wasted as a starter because four other guys need to get shots first. So he just ends up standing around.

This is so blatantly obvious to people who watch the games. Yet here we are 15 games in still dealing with players "I'm a starter ego" and Griffins unwillingness to do anything about it. Unless we are actually considering trading Khris, which I highly doubt, he needs to come off the bench. Beasley is on a vet min so idc if he plays 0 minutes vs good teams.

5-9-1 in 1st quarters this year and the ones we won were by very few points while a lot of the ones we lost were blowouts.

Giannis on Jrue was driving me insane too, Is this really just grade school guard who guards you defense? Giannis needs to get it through his thick head that Brook is the Free Safety, Giannis needs to be the lockdown corner.

[tedbrogen]

It's insane how easily a team with defense as its identity for +5 years can turn into a "I will try to outscore you" all of a sudden.
We are like the Nets, the Hawks, the pre chip Nuggets, Dallas etc right now. We can't stop anyone but we are getting whatever we want on offense even in the half court offense where we were always struggling in the past.

Giannis who was top 3 in rim protection(less than 6ft) DFG% for 5-6 seasons straight right now has 66.7% which is beyond garbage. **** Trae Young has 68% for example. Giannis had 48% last season. WTF happened? It's only 13-14 games but its amazing it's so over the league average(61.8) right now.

He had 42% DFG last season with every kind of shot way bellow the league average and right now he has 50.3%.

He turned from a glue help defender keeping our defense together and bailing us out after a break down to a basic wing defender in the perimeter focusing on one guy most of the time or leaving him alone to try and futilely contest one of the 100s of blow by drives in the paint.

It’s another symptoms of the always in rotations because they refuse to play Marjon and Dre more defensive system. Giannis is trying to do way too much and is always out of position and off balance and unsure of his responsibilities.

The Bucks have been able to mask some of AG’s lack of system by the players making adjustments and because like 80% of the league has no chance against them if Dame and Gianni’s are playing well but at some point they need the coach to not be an idiot.

[JimmyTheKid]

Adrian Griffin is annoying, part 15. AJJ strings together multiple positive plays! Griffin with the quick hook. AJJ gets matched up on Tatum for back to back possessions! Griffin with the quick hook. Let the guy get some real run so we can shut up about it. This season is supposed to be fun.

[Matches Malone]

Adrian Griffin is annoying, part 15. AJJ strings together multiple positive plays! Griffin with the quick hook. AJJ gets matched up on Tatum for back to back possessions! Griffin with the quick hook. Let the guy get some real run so we can shut up about it. This season is supposed to be fun.

Two things Griffin supposedly hangs his hat on are defense and player development. I haven't been impressed with either. I figured Griff would be a little more open to playing younger guys if it helps the overall game plan, but he's been no better than Bud was with dicking around young guys minutes even when they do play well.