PG Celtics - 4th Quarter Fade

[rilamann]

Imagine it from the Celtic's perspective.

You're up 102-101 with just over a minute to go and Giannis has the ball with only Horford in front of him and before you can even think to yourself Oh **** Giannis pulls up and jacks a garbage 3 with 18 seconds on the shot clock.

I said it a month or two ago but it almost seems like Giannis knows he could tear the league to shreds, but he does a bunch of dumb **** just to make it fair and give the other team a chance. I know that's not actually what he's doing, but his BBIQ is so over the top bad it almost makes you ponder it.

[soxperry]

boneheaded play down the stretch but overall i come away from this feeling positive.

Bobby just absolutely sucked. he got a ton of rebounds because Boston was getting back in transition. it's not like most of them were contested because we know he's not outjumping anyone. even if we dont trade him for someone useful, just getting him off the court would be a big plus. hard to do that with Prince not able to go and Khris not fully ramped up.

Boston has no answer for Giannis when Horford finally retires. I hope to god that's this coming offseason because he really does make it very difficult. It's really just him and Bam.

[yb90]

Imagine it from the Celtic's perspective.

You're up 102-101 with just over a minute to go and Giannis has the ball with only Horford in front of him and before you can even think to yourself Oh **** Giannis pulls up and jacks a garbage 3 with 18 seconds on the shot clock.

I said it a month or two ago but it almost seems like Giannis knows he could tear the league to shreds, but he does a bunch of dumb **** just to make it fair and give the other team a chance. I know that's not actually what he's doing, but his BBIQ is so over the top bad it almost makes you ponder it.

Part of me think he uses these moments to boost his confidence for the playoffs. Another part of me says, just make the simple play.

[Prez]

I recognize I'm a broken record at this point but seeing Khris move well for the most part and feeling good about him fully returning to form in the coming weeks, I really do feel like we're just a Bobby trade away. I like the rest of the squad, especially when Prince is fully available. The last weakness to fix is a backup big that isn't abominable defensively and knows his role offensively. We do that and I honestly think we can compete with anybody in a series. Don't really give a **** what our record is. Just get to the playoffs with a healthy Giannis/Dame/Khris + the cast of role players we have now except a better fitting backup big than Bobby, and I like our chances.

They'll figure out the late game offense in time, especially as Khris shakes the rust off.

[fan230]

the main difference between the two teams is that is very easy for them to get mismatches

if Brown for example get with Lopez or Lillard it is a mismatch

while however they switch they will offer a competent defense since Jrue and White can defend bigger players and their forwards can defend guards (and Horford can defend Giannis in single coverage)

Pretty much. And it's why they are the best team in the league. They have no real weak link in their regular rotation. Just about all of them can defend one-on-one, so they don't need to help too much. And on offense, they move the ball so well and everyone can shoot.

Exactly. They have no weak link. Stevens has built a great team.

Also they are a better coached team.

[kanyon]

Was bartending this whole game and missed a lot. What happened with Prince?

[Matches Malone]

Was bartending this whole game and missed a lot. What happened with Prince?

Left the game with an illness. Probably stomach bug.

[-Jragon-]

Down the stretch is just expected comedy...

1.Would rather see Dame take it inside instead of a leaning 3
2. Giannis 3.. FFS
3. GA missing a big FT
4. KM stumbling over the last pass

Sh$t needs to be cleaned up

That last pass was pretty bad.

Shocked that JragonDunn blamed Middleton there

Maybe also consider that I blamed several people in my OP; nothing was pointed just at KM.

But no, you're full of it, that ball hit his hand and bounced off.. (I rewound it 20 times for the lolz and tears) losing to good teams on a KM turnover as he flops on the ground begging for a foul is a meme at this point.

[-Jragon-]

Bobby had several plays on D where he was nowhere near a Celtic.. he also still refuses to try to get position outside the dotted circle.. just goes straight into it and jumps up like he's Mutombo but is not close to blocking it. Someone help him

[FrieAaron]

Frustrating. Obviously playing much better and the defense was solid but we completely handed that win to them. It's tougher against Boston but we need to keep up the ball movement we had during the win streak.

[Sigra]

As long as they can defend Giannis one on one (Horford and Jrue) we are in trouble.

[pifhluk23]

If I was Doc I wouldn't trot out the Giannis at C lineups against the Celtics during the regular season. I would do it against other teams though, he needs to get acclimated to it and then you throw it at the Cs during the playoffs. TBD if Doc is that smart / has the balls to DNP Lopez and Bobby (hopefully 1 or both aren't even on the roster) in a playoff game.

If we are going to play Lopez then we should put him on Holiday and play off / force him to shoot.

[steger_3434]

Have 1 win against teams with winning records. But at least we didn’t get blown out I guess.


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[DutchManDanFan]

3 losses in the regular season, 4 wins in the post season. Happens all the time.

[tsamo]

Have 1 win against teams with winning records. But at least we didn’t get blown out I guess.


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On one hand, on our last 5 games against the Celtics and the Cavaliers we've lost on average by 5.2 points, which is comforting. We were right there on all of them.
On the other hand, we've lost them all.

[Baddy Chuck]

Way to ruin a 9 gamecwin streak Khris. 2-10, ugh.... should have let him play against a scrub team to get the rust off.

We literally lost the game before this one, without Khris . Talk about agenda.

[Ruben Quevedo]

I recognize I'm a broken record at this point but seeing Khris move well for the most part and feeling good about him fully returning to form in the coming weeks, I really do feel like we're just a Bobby trade away. I like the rest of the squad, especially when Prince is fully available. The last weakness to fix is a backup big that isn't abominable defensively and knows his role offensively. We do that and I honestly think we can compete with anybody in a series. Don't really give a **** what our record is. Just get to the playoffs with a healthy Giannis/Dame/Khris + the cast of role players we have now except a better fitting backup big than Bobby, and I like our chances.

They'll figure out the late game offense in time, especially as Khris shakes the rust off.

We are not on Boston’s level. A successful Bobby trade doesn’t change that without other things changing.

We’ve been feasting on cupcakes to pad the record, but the leap we would need to make from here to Boston’s level cannot be done with one or 2 personnel changes (at least the changes that are realistic).

I would agree that trading Bobby for a good player is some very low-hanging fruit to pick and would help us considerably. But we aren’t as close as people think we are.

[Fotis St]

Doc please deBUD the Team .... please please please ... We were God Lucky we even won one... Brook, Khris, Pat C need to go somewhere else ... we are better even with zero return... just buy them off and waive them and sign some athletic dudes from G_League or players from Euroleague that have NBA Out options in their contracts.
I didn't watch the game ... but I told you , I have seen it before .. Khris return will mess up our chemistry, just trade the dude for pieces , we don't need him any more. We have closers, Dame and other shootets like AJ Green who can be our Steve Kerr ... retire their jerseys. I don't want to see a single minute of them playing for my team. They are way over their time , collecting huge checks and are unplayable for contenders

[yannisk]

too much hero ball in the last minutes, too much Giannis isolation in general, especially since Horford defends him well (Horford actually pushes in every drive but enough to not be whistled)

Why don't we run actions with Dame and Giannis so that Giannis ends up with Dame's defender.

Dame can make difficult shots in "Dame time" but ideally you want to take a good look not Dame taking a shot he maybe makes 30% of the time

can Brook post successfully Tatum or even White? that should have been our mismatch, we don't try it at all. But i don't think he can be successful enough. Normally Brook's use is that he pulls a big on the perimeter for Giannis to operate down low, against the Celtics he ends up in the perimeter guarded be a forward so he is a no factor. Defensively similarly he ends after a switch defending somebody he cant follow. As we use him, Brook has no use against the Celtics. Portis is a bit more mobile defensively but he is such a bad rim protector and gets lost so many times that again he is a liability.

Since neither Brook or Bobby can give enough in this matchup lots of people ask for a small ball lineup with Giannis at center. I don't think small ball with this personnel is the answer either, Horford or Porzingis will pull Giannis at the 3 point line and we will be left with Middleton and Dame rim protecting drives by Tatum and Brown. If we had a a good defensive forward maybe.

[Fotis St]

I recognize I'm a broken record at this point but seeing Khris move well for the most part and feeling good about him fully returning to form in the coming weeks, I really do feel like we're just a Bobby trade away. I like the rest of the squad, especially when Prince is fully available. The last weakness to fix is a backup big that isn't abominable defensively and knows his role offensively. We do that and I honestly think we can compete with anybody in a series. Don't really give a **** what our record is. Just get to the playoffs with a healthy Giannis/Dame/Khris + the cast of role players we have now except a better fitting backup big than Bobby, and I like our chances.

They'll figure out the late game offense in time, especially as Khris shakes the rust off.

At this point you are suspect that Khris pays you to glaze him