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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#141 » by aboveAverage » Sun Feb 2, 2025 9:47 am

This trade has to be investigated and nullified by the NBA, doesn’t it? I remember when the Chris Paul trade to LAL was rescinded. And that offer was miles better than this one.
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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#142 » by raferfenix » Sun Feb 2, 2025 9:48 am

Most corrupt NBA dealing since Stern had to void Chris Paul to the Lakers from the NBA-owned Hornets because it was so obviously corrupt:

On Dec. 8, 2011, Adrian Wojnarowski broke the news that the New Orleans Hornets were "near a deal" to send Chris Paul to the Lakers as part of a three-team trade that also included the Rockets. Less than four hours after his first report, Wojnarowski reported that the deal was off.


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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#143 » by Ayt » Sun Feb 2, 2025 9:55 am

aboveAverage wrote:This trade has to be investigated and nullified by the NBA, doesn’t it? I remember when the Chris Paul trade to LAL was rescinded. And that offer was miles better than this one.


That was different because of the ownership situation in New Orleans at the time. The team was under NBA control at the time.
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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#144 » by raferfenix » Sun Feb 2, 2025 10:07 am

ESPN down 28% this year Luka to LA couldn’t wait for the offseason lol:

A new media deal, looking at the future? But what if the future looks bleak? Although the NBA signed an 11-year, $76 billion TV rights deal with Disney, NBC, and Amazon this summer, they’ve faced a major dip in its viewership over the last decade. Ratings have plummeted significantly, with a steep 48% decline over the past 12 years, and this season alone, ESPN’s numbers are down 28%, according to Front Office Sports.


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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#145 » by tedbrogen » Sun Feb 2, 2025 10:08 am

If it were Luka for Giannis and that 2031 first, would you do it?
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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#146 » by AussieBuck » Sun Feb 2, 2025 10:12 am

tedbrogen wrote:If it were Luka for Giannis and that 2031 first, would you do it?

Super, super tough question.
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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#147 » by paulpressey25 » Sun Feb 2, 2025 10:14 am

Maybe behind the scenes Luka has a serious drug issue. That’s all I got.
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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#148 » by humanrefutation » Sun Feb 2, 2025 10:15 am

raferfenix wrote:Does Dallas get Jimmy now?

That team’s got a lot of centers and AD / Kyrie don’t have many years.

***and no there is no basketball justification for the Luka trade. Spitballing what’s next.


Yeah, I think there are several dominoes that are about to fall. I was thinking of the Mavs bigs, too. I'd love if the Bucks could pry Gafford, though my guess is that they'll want to play AD at the 4.
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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#149 » by humanrefutation » Sun Feb 2, 2025 10:23 am

tedbrogen wrote:If it were Luka for Giannis and that 2031 first, would you do it?


Putting aside for a moment my concerns about the roster fit with Luka, I don't think there's any chance Luka would re-sign here. So, no.
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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#150 » by humanrefutation » Sun Feb 2, 2025 11:18 am

6 hours ago, if you asked me to put together a list of the least likely players to be traded, I think I'd have Luka only behind Wemby, Jokic, and possibly Giannis. Insane.
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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#151 » by miwaukee » Sun Feb 2, 2025 11:23 am

No way there isnt something going on behind the scenes.
No way thats all they get for Luka, absolutely insane bs
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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#152 » by pifhluk23 » Sun Feb 2, 2025 11:29 am

tedbrogen wrote:If it were Luka for Giannis and that 2031 first, would you do it?


Nope, we can win right now with the right trade. That trade sets us back a bit as we have to trade Dame and retool an entire roster.
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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#153 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Sun Feb 2, 2025 12:20 pm

Plossum wrote:For the conspiracy theorists: what’s the quid pro quo for Dallas here? If silver has pulled the strings on this one, what has promised Dallas in return?

my conspiracy is if it's a zinger situation where some kind of legal trouble in the background. this trade is so bad my head jumped to that
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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#154 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Sun Feb 2, 2025 12:24 pm

raferfenix wrote:Not to get political but the Adelson’s involvement is maximally shady.

DALLAS — Mark Cuban sees a future of NBA ownership where the advantages will be in real estate.

The high-profile billionaire says that’s why he sold his majority stake in the Dallas Mavericks to a pair of families with strong ties to the hotel and casino industry.

The NBA on Wednesday approved Cuban’s sale of a controlling interest in the Mavericks to the Adelson and Dumont families, who run Las Vegas Sands Corp.

The deal was approved just shy of a month since Miriam Adelson and Sivan and Patrick Dumont announced their intention to buy the club. The purchase is in the valuation range of $3.5 billion.

Patrick Dumont, Adelson’s son-in-law and president and chief operating officer of Las Vegas Sands, will serve as Mavericks governor. Adelson is the widow of casino magnate Sheldon Adelson.


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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#155 » by raferfenix » Sun Feb 2, 2025 12:31 pm

A dead body or drugs or something theoretically could explain part of it with a hefty dose of Jason Kidd madness.

But I still don’t buy it. Not with the league panicking about TV ratings.

And to think ESPN toadies are out on there trying to make a basketball case for it.

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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#156 » by Badgerlander » Sun Feb 2, 2025 12:47 pm

Talk about bag night, mavs arena should be completely empty of fans the rest of the season. Insanity
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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#157 » by blazza18 » Sun Feb 2, 2025 12:49 pm

I’m still so flabbergasted at how it even came to this for the Mavs. I get maybe they were growing tired of the situation but bad enough that they were the ones to initiate talks? Blows my mind.
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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#158 » by paulpressey25 » Sun Feb 2, 2025 12:51 pm

Badgerlander wrote:Talk about bag night, mavs arena should be completely empty of fans the rest of the season. Insanity


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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#159 » by JayMKE » Sun Feb 2, 2025 12:59 pm

I feel like there had to be some sort of issue between Luka and the Adelsons, I don’t think the Mavs org have been happy with how he takes care of his body for a long time either. Like no way that Cuban makes this trade right?
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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#160 » by Profound23 » Sun Feb 2, 2025 1:02 pm

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Ron Swanson wrote:What's funny about this is the Lakers still aren't a real title contender lol.


Yeah, that roster is bad, and a terrible fit around Luka.


For sure but it opens up their window when LeBron retires and they land another superstar somehow.

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