PG Rockets - Streak Stopped at 4

[emunney]

Sure, so can Brook and so can Giannis'. I'll still live with those guys taking those shots because they've proven time and again that they're clutch and completely capable of making plays when they matter more often than not. Under no circumstances though, should Kyle Kuzma be the #2 shot attempt guy in the final 5-minutes of a tight game.

Ultimately, I hated that both Dame and Brook took long 3s, but also, if you assume that's a 30% shot, it's basically a coin flip on making at least one of them. It's not as good as taking two good shots, but it beats the hell out of not taking two shots.

You know a coin flip is 50/50 rght ¿ Lol. Its more about the quality of the three. Rather have a 24 footer from Green than a 30 footer from Dame or Brook.

The probability of succeeding at least once in 2 attempts of a 30% shot is 51%.

[LUKE23]

Kuzma killed them tonight, team worst -10, 9 points on 10 shots, 1 assist, 3 TO, and two of those were awful ones in the 4th.

[Ron Swanson]

At least Kuzma is generally taking the open 3's when they're available. Porter Jr. on the other hand has only attempted two 3's in the last 63-minutes of playing time. I have no clue what's going on there. Dude was a legitimately good, high volume 3PT shooter off the bounce with Houston, but it's like he's completely abandoned it.

[msiris]

Ultimately, I hated that both Dame and Brook took long 3s, but also, if you assume that's a 30% shot, it's basically a coin flip on making at least one of them. It's not as good as taking two good shots, but it beats the hell out of not taking two shots.

You know a coin flip is 50/50 rght ¿ Lol. Its more about the quality of the three. Rather have a 24 footer from Green than a 30 footer from Dame or Brook.

Dawg, if we’re calling those 30% shots, then there’s a 70% chance of missing, but you take 2 shots.

70%x70% = 49% which would be the likelihood of missing both those shots, so it’s slightly better than 50/50 that you’ll make at least one, so “basically a coin flip” is right.


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30 seconds left. Should have gotten a quick easy two and play D if more than 24 on shot clock. If not foul and hope they miss one acouple times.

[msiris]

Kuzma killed them tonight, team worst -10, 9 points on 10 shots, 1 assist, 3 TO, and two of those were awful ones in the 4th.

Maybe t you should start with the guy who shot 7 for 22 and is making 53 million a year. Lol

[Profound23]

AJ Green was really good, and finally played 33 minutes. More of that please.

But missed two wide open threes down the stretch. I worry about him in the playoffs, he seems to shrink as the moments get more important. He's young so I'm trying to have patience with that, but some players just don't perform in crunch time of big games.

Last 5 minutes, score w/in 5 or less, his fg % is 60, 60 from 3. It's a small sample, but your basis for the opposite, ironic argument.
https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1631260/traditional?Split=clutch

Worth noting he came up big in the NBA Cup Final. Last season he didn't hit in the playoffs. There' are some well-founded concerns about that, but not beyond, & it's not uncommon to struggle your 1st playoffs before turning it around.

Which is why I put the caveat on big games. He has hit some clutch shots this year in the final moments/seconds of games. Just wish he would do it more versus the top teams in the league and more consistently throughout those games. This would allow me to be more optimistic of him in the playoffs. One big shot in the NBA Cup is nice, but just 9 points in 26 minutes of that game not so much.

[ShootingtheJ]

Lol, classic. Regardless of your weird obsession with VORP, Kuzma has been an objectively good addition since the trade up until this game. This coming from a dude who couldn't have hated his game any more when he was in Washington.

His game has been exactly the same as in Washington unfortunately.

Not surprising that you think this if all you're gonna do is stare at BasketballReference.com.

We must be watching a different feed of the game. On my feed he continuously takes long jumpers, including 3s, and misses them.

I like that he's been better than advertised defensively, but he's no more than Dillon Brooks with an even worse jumper.

[CharityStripe34]

I appreciate what Kuzma and KPJ have brought to the team, but the idea of having both those dudes out there in the closing lineup has a little too much YOLO shot-chucking potential for my liking. I think you have your ideal grouping with Dame/Green/Kuzma/Giannis/Brook, but the question still remains, who's that 5th guy you want closing in matchups where you gotta yank Brook off the floor? That's one of the things they need to figure out.

In those situations I think GTJ is the guy. He's a proven shot-maker and we've seen him hit some major big-nuts clutch threes. This way you have two high-percentage shooters on the floor with Dame & Freak, and Kuzma (we hope) doing the dirty work (o-boards, D, cutting).

[Bernman]

Which is why I put the caveat on big games. He has hit some clutch shots this year in the final moments/seconds of games. Just wish he would do it more versus the top teams in the league and more consistently throughout those games. This would allow me to be more optimistic of him in the playoffs. One big shot in the NBA Cup is nice, but just 9 points in 26 minutes of that game not so much.

"big games", so you're shrinking the sample even more, it's amorphous, & hard to quantify.

But here's a non cherry-picked list v. top teams:

1-2 from 3 v. Boston, 7-9 v. Cle, 3-6 v. NY, 4-6 v. Boston, 1-5 v. Houston, 2-2 v. Boston, 3-5 v. OKC, 0-3 v. Cle, 2-5 v. NY, 3-6 v. Mem, 4-8 v. Hou

I count 30-57, which is awesome. So there's really nothing here. It's quite the opposite, & he's been very clutch by your measure, or mine. Just any time he misses a singular shot it reinforces concern from last playoffs, a charge he can't beat until the next.

[Baddy Chuck]

Not a Kuzma fan really at all but some rose colored stats that I'm hoping can help us. His free throw rate in 8 games with the Bucks is .35. That's significantly higher than any point in his career and overall like really good. Maybe it's an outlier group of games and it falls back down to earth but if it doesn't that is a positive for the team in terms of getting opponents in foul trouble, especially with Giannis and Dame being some of the best in the game in that regard. He's shooting 20% on open threes with us. He's not a great shooter, but he's better than that. All over the place year to year but anywhere from 32%-44% throughout his career and if history repeats itself as it has with other players, he'll likely see those opportunities rise next to Dame and Giannis more. He's shooting less long twos then ever and maybe/hopefully that continues to improve even further. I mean like efficiency wise, if he was an 80% FT shooter (which he is not obviously), he'd be scoring at the same efficiency as Bobby this season. His turnovers are a problem but also I think are mostly due to aggression, which going back to the first stat, I can live with if it is putting pressure on defenses. It's an area he needs to clean up but there hasn't really been too many shaqtin a fool moments. The defense has held up pretty well with him, he doesn't look out of place and provides some versatility on the wing. 39% defended field goal percentage with us is really good, granted in such a small sample size it's pretty tough to anoint him a lockdown guy the number suggests.

I think the dude kinda sucks but there's been some positives to take away from his last few weeks here.

[Baddy Chuck]

Someone posted this yesterday.

And just to be clear again, I don't trust defensive metrics for a variety of reasons.

But for those who do, this shows Kuzma as pretty bad defensively, as well as other metrics (in an admittedly short window). But for those praisng his defense, at least it might give some pause.

And to add fuel to the fire, Liilard is listed as the worst Buck defender.

https://www.nba.com/stats/team/1610612749/players-advanced?dir=D&sort=AST_PCT

That actually shows that comparatively the team defense with Kuzma has been pretty good.

[Dick Tate]

Three points:
3) The Bucks miss BP's consistency in rebounding and scoring big-time. For those who wanted to trade him (many of you), you now have a glimpse of the void. We've beaten some bad teams. Let's see what the next few weeks bring.

I wasn't on the Trade Bobby train but i'd imagine those who were riding it were expecting another player in return instead of the void.

[Ron Swanson]

The good news is that we've been winning close games against good defenses (Minny, Clippers, Miami) during this post-deadline stretch. The bad news is that we've had to keep coming back from big 2nd half/4th quarter deficits and it finally bit us. It both gives me hope that a team with Dame/Giannis and a good team defense is never gonna really be out of any playoff game, but that the way they're winning isn't sustainable over a 7-game series unless they can finally figure out a way to really unlock the offense. Teams like Cleveland, Boston, and the Knicks can just go on these shooting barrages and bury you. We were one of those teams last season, but we're not at that level this season.

[Brewhoopfan]

Say what you want about Bobby, but Thompson wouldn't have gotten off the floor without a confrontation with Bobby playing. At least Green comes in to help Giannis up. Everyone else? JFC.

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[pifhluk23]

The good news is that we've been winning close games against good defenses (Minny, Clippers, Miami) during this post-deadline stretch. The bad news is that we've had to keep coming back from big 2nd half/4th quarter deficits and it finally bit us. It both gives me hope that a team with Dame/Giannis and a good team defense is never gonna really be out of any playoff game, but that the way they're winning isn't sustainable over a 7-game series unless they can finally figure out a way to really unlock the offense. Teams like Cleveland, Boston, and the Knicks can just go on these shooting barrages and bury you. We were one of those teams last season, but we're not at that level this season.

Giannis was on a minutes restriction and even last night he still doesn't look like normal. Plus if we have BP we were winning that game. In the playoffs there likely won't be a single minute with Giannis and Dame on the bench at the same time.

[fan230]

I think Dame needs to try his 3 pointers early in the game. If they don’t fall he needs to start going inside much more and score from there or very likely get fouled. Once he stabilizes in a good way doing that, he should keep trying three s again.

If he does this, I have a feeling that the whole team will perform much better offensively.

Kpj needs more playing time to get into rhythm. I think this is absolutely essential for the Bucks to do now.

Also it looks like it is better to sign Rollins to a regular contract given the overall state of our team.

[emunney]

Rollins got another active DNP in this one, so he's one game closer to the 50 game limit (I have him at 49 with tomorrow -- or his next active game -- at his last eligible game on a 2 way contract, but apparently there was different reporting on a recent broadcast).

[fansinceforever]

At least Kuzma is generally taking the open 3's when they're available. Porter Jr. on the other hand has only attempted two 3's in the last 63-minutes of playing time. I have no clue what's going on there. Dude was a legitimately good, high volume 3PT shooter off the bounce with Houston, but it's like he's completely abandoned it.

He's being asked to initiate offense and he knows he won't play if he doesn't play efficiently. The 11-16 minutes a night he's getting is not enough to allow him to work into his old groove.

I wouldn't be surprised if Doc told him to attack and find shooters but he doesn't want to see him pull up from deep.

It's early but the limited role they've relegated him to is so short sighted.

[JimmyTheKid]

Say what you want about Bobby, but Thompson wouldn't have gotten off the floor without a confrontation with Bobby playing. At least Green comes in to help Giannis up. Everyone else? JFC.

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Was also very confused about that. Where the hell was every(any)body?

[emunney]

Which is why I put the caveat on big games. He has hit some clutch shots this year in the final moments/seconds of games. Just wish he would do it more versus the top teams in the league and more consistently throughout those games. This would allow me to be more optimistic of him in the playoffs. One big shot in the NBA Cup is nice, but just 9 points in 26 minutes of that game not so much.

"big games", so you're shrinking the sample even more, it's amorphous, & hard to quantify.

But here's a non cherry-picked list v. top teams:

1-2 from 3 v. Boston, 7-9 v. Cle, 3-6 v. NY, 4-6 v. Boston, 1-5 v. Houston, 2-2 v. Boston, 3-5 v. OKC, 0-3 v. Cle, 2-5 v. NY, 3-6 v. Mem, 4-8 v. Hou

I count 30-57, which is awesome. So there's really nothing here. It's quite the opposite, & he's been very clutch by your measure, or mine. Just any time he misses a singular shot it reinforces concern from last playoffs, a charge he can't beat until the next.

I want to take a mini step back (call it an Earl Boykins) because I want to litigate whether those two shots were wide open. One definitely was, and one definitely was drifting right in the right corner with Brooks all over him.