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Official #2 Pick Thread - Ford #7: Parker

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Assuming Embiid goes #1, who is your guy at #2?

Wiggins
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53%
Parker
126
35%
Exum
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9%
Vonleh
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0%
Randle
8
2%
 
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Re: Official #2 Pick Thread pt. II - New Poll 

Post#1421 » by trwi7 » Sun Jun 8, 2014 4:16 am

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Re: Official #2 Pick Thread pt. II - New Poll 

Post#1422 » by JayMKE » Sun Jun 8, 2014 4:21 am

so are we ever going to work any of these guys out?
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Post#1423 » by SupremeHustle » Sun Jun 8, 2014 4:28 am

JayMKE wrote:so are we ever going to work any of these guys out?


I heard Hammond has a link to Draft Express, so we're good.
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Post#1424 » by randy84 » Sun Jun 8, 2014 4:33 am

SupremeHustle wrote:
JayMKE wrote:so are we ever going to work any of these guys out?


I heard Hammond has a link to Draft Express, so we're good.


I saw him at the BP gas station picking up his Lindy's NBA draft mag.
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Post#1425 » by VooDoo7 » Sun Jun 8, 2014 4:34 am

SupremeHustle wrote:
JayMKE wrote:so are we ever going to work any of these guys out?


I heard Hammond has a link to Draft Express, so we're good.

Pretty sure Hammond prefers nbadraft.net.
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Post#1426 » by Jez2983 » Sun Jun 8, 2014 4:49 am

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Post#1427 » by LedZepp007 » Sun Jun 8, 2014 5:02 am

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SupremeHustle wrote:
JayMKE wrote:so are we ever going to work any of these guys out?


I heard Hammond has a link to Draft Express, so we're good.

Pretty sure Hammond prefers nbadraft.net.
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Re: Official #2 Pick Thread pt. II - New Poll 

Post#1428 » by Zeezprah » Sun Jun 8, 2014 5:04 am

JayMKE wrote:so are we ever going to work any of these guys out?


my guess is these individual workouts are more important for 2nd rounders as they haven't seen them in person as much as the top guys.

let's be real, the bucks have scouted jabari/embiid/wiggins multiple times in person in college games and in pre draft preparation (like the workouts in santa monica and santa barbara). how many times have they seen billy baron in person or spencer dinwiddie?

on top of it, they prolly want to bring in the top guys closer to the draft
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Post#1429 » by Baddy Chuck » Sun Jun 8, 2014 5:13 am

Jabari, Embiid and Wiggins probably won't even step foot in Milwaukee until Cleveland figures out what they're doing.
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Re: Official #2 Pick Thread pt. II - New Poll 

Post#1430 » by VooDoo7 » Sun Jun 8, 2014 5:54 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:Jabari, Embiid and Wiggins probably won't even step foot in Milwaukee until Cleveland figures out what they're doing.

I think you can take Jabari off that list. He most likely knows there's no way he's going #1. Hence, his dad saying how it'd be great if he played in MKE.
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Re: Official #2 Pick Thread pt. II - New Poll 

Post#1431 » by White+Purple » Sun Jun 8, 2014 7:50 am

weezybaby856 wrote: Plus I was talking all around skill set, not just scoring. Which brings me back to why I don't like 1 trick ponys like McDermott in the 1st place. I saw Adam Morrisons, Jimmer Fredettes and even Tyler Hansboroughs run through college hoops at better programs than Creighton just to fall flat on their faces at the next level. I gave McDermott his credit for being a great great college scorer, but that's where it stops for me until proven otherwise. And if McDermott does happen to struggle to score in the pros, please give me 1 other reason to even think he will stick around in the league? .... Go ahead, I'll wait.

Sounds like you think Randle will score in the NBA without a jumper, and McDermott will struggle - and I think the opposite. Are we at the stage where we can come back to the discussion after they've played in the NBA?
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Re: Official #2 Pick Thread pt. II - New Poll 

Post#1432 » by machu46 » Sun Jun 8, 2014 12:16 pm

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Baddy Chuck wrote:Jabari, Embiid and Wiggins probably won't even step foot in Milwaukee until Cleveland figures out what they're doing.

I think you can take Jabari off that list. He most likely knows there's no way he's going #1. Hence, his dad saying how it'd be great if he played in MKE.


Pretty sure he's said the opposite a few days ago. Pretty sure I read from his agent that if Cleveland doesn't commit to Embiid, Jabari will work out for them and then they'll consider us.
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Post#1433 » by machu46 » Sun Jun 8, 2014 12:21 pm

weezybaby856 wrote:
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weezybaby856 wrote:Randle won't have to find his niche like McDermott will. Randle will come in from day 1 and be able to bang with NBA bodies. Randle is a traditional PF, he already has a foundation. McDermott is too small to play even a stretch 4 and to slow to play on the wing. He will live and die by how crafty he can be off the ball to get in position to score. Randle should and will be able to utilize his skill set to be forceful in the paint.

Sure, both have defensive limitations but I'm willing to bet Randle has more success guarding bigs and I feel like they'd be equally as bad guarding wings so I still give the advantage to Randle.

Plus I think McDermott is overrated truthfully. Seniors are supposed to dominate college basketball. They are more mature physically and mentally. That's just life in general.

This post doesn't add up. Randle will score in the NBA because he's better physically, but McDermott scored more in the NCAA because he was better physically?
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I never said McDermott was better physically in college at all. I clearly said Randle has a NBA position already and has the body type to play his position whereas McDermott possesses neither of those. And yes, IMO that'll translate to Randle being able to score better in the pros than McDermott even though McDermott was the superior scorer in college. Plus I was talking all around skill set, not just scoring. Which brings me back to why I don't like 1 trick ponys like McDermott in the 1st place. I saw Adam Morrisons, Jimmer Fredettes and even Tyler Hansboroughs run through college hoops at better programs than Creighton just to fall flat on their faces at the next level. I gave McDermott his credit for being a great great college scorer, but that's where it stops for me until proven otherwise. And if McDermott does happen to struggle to score in the pros, please give me 1 other reason to even think he will stick around in the league? .... Go ahead, I'll wait.

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I actually think Randle is more of a one trick pony than McDermott. McDermotts one thing is scoring ability, but he can catch and shoot, cut off the ball, create for himself, initiate offense, post up, curl off of screens, etc.

Randle's one thing is rebounding, which isn't even as good as some other prospects in this years class. He's not a good finisher inside, doesn't shoot outside, and can't create for others at all. I'm not really sure what people see in him offensively besides the fact that he tries hard.

I can definitely see why people think he's so safe given his motor and his rebounding, and the fact that he was able to score even without having much to his game, but people said the same things about Thomas Robinson too, and it wouldn't really surprise me if he ended up just being slightly better than him.
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Re: Official #2 Pick Thread pt. II - New Poll 

Post#1434 » by Badgerlander » Sun Jun 8, 2014 12:27 pm

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Re: Official #2 Pick Thread pt. II - New Poll 

Post#1435 » by Chapter29 » Sun Jun 8, 2014 12:45 pm

Baddy Chuck wrote:Jabari, Embiid and Wiggins probably won't even step foot in Milwaukee until Cleveland figures out what they're doing.


Right. Cleveland will get to look at each of the 3/4 first. What might be even worse I fear is that Philly might get to see these guys before us as well.

My guess is that we wont see any of the 4 next week at all. I would say 7 days before the draft we will workout the first of the 4. Embiid probably the day before when he doesn't get the guarantee from Cleveland he expects.
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Re: Official #2 Pick Thread pt. II - New Poll 

Post#1436 » by paulpressey25 » Sun Jun 8, 2014 12:46 pm

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Baddy Chuck wrote:Jabari, Embiid and Wiggins probably won't even step foot in Milwaukee until Cleveland figures out what they're doing.

I think you can take Jabari off that list. He most likely knows there's no way he's going #1. Hence, his dad saying how it'd be great if he played in MKE.


Why do I think Gery put all sorts of words in Sonny Parker's mouth for that interview?

For all we know, Sonny could have gone on for an hour telling Gery how he wished the Lakers would trade up to #2 for Jabari, but Gery left that part of the interview out.
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Re: Official #2 Pick Thread pt. II - New Poll 

Post#1437 » by 4hitter » Sun Jun 8, 2014 12:59 pm

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VooDoo7 wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:Jabari, Embiid and Wiggins probably won't even step foot in Milwaukee until Cleveland figures out what they're doing.

I think you can take Jabari off that list. He most likely knows there's no way he's going #1. Hence, his dad saying how it'd be great if he played in MKE.


Why do I think Gery put all sorts of words in Sonny Parker's mouth for that interview?

For all we know, Sonny could have gone on for an hour telling Gery how he wished the Lakers would trade up to #2 for Jabari, but Gery left that part of the interview out.


True but I tend to believe it because when you require dialysis its not the easiest thing to travel and he's so close to MKE it would actually be a great situation for the Parker family. Although, let's be honest, its not like Jabari won't be able to afford to move them wherever he lands so who knows
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Re: Official #2 Pick Thread pt. II - New Poll 

Post#1438 » by Matches Malone » Sun Jun 8, 2014 1:31 pm

machu46 wrote:
VooDoo7 wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:Jabari, Embiid and Wiggins probably won't even step foot in Milwaukee until Cleveland figures out what they're doing.

I think you can take Jabari off that list. He most likely knows there's no way he's going #1. Hence, his dad saying how it'd be great if he played in MKE.


Pretty sure he's said the opposite a few days ago. Pretty sure I read from his agent that if Cleveland doesn't commit to Embiid, Jabari will work out for them and then they'll consider us.



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Post#1439 » by 4hitter » Sun Jun 8, 2014 1:41 pm

I can only speak for Duke games but I saw Hammond personally at Duke games watching Parker at least 5x so I'd assume he did the same or more at Kansas.. I think he has a good handle on each of them if we don't end up getting them in for workouts.
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Post#1440 » by paulpressey25 » Sun Jun 8, 2014 1:47 pm

I do like Parker's family pedigree. Bodes very well for him. Then again Wiggins and Embiid aren't bad either in that dept save for Mitchell Wiggins drug issues back in the day.

All three of these prospects really stack up well in every category save for their one weakness apiece that we keep debating.
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