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Post#1421 » by Garbs_7 » Sun Nov 29, 2020 9:17 am

Do we know if Giannis is back in Milwaukee yet?
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Garbs_7 wrote:Do we know if Giannis is back in Milwaukee yet?


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Haha just came to post it. Please stay Giannis :pray: :pray: :pray:
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Post#1424 » by DutchManDanFan » Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:52 am

I agree with Jay and I agree with his opponents. There's no black or white.
I'm 100% sure both Horst and Giannis know if he signs the SuperMax or not. Either way I'm fine with it.
If Giannis is honest about his motivation to bring a title to Milwakee and have a Dirk like career, then we don't have a problem. We needed to improve and we did. Bled had to go, Jrue should make the team better, certainly in the post season.
And Giannis must be better as well. And he knows it.

If Giannis leaves, either he's dishonest or Horst makes huge mistakes and there's no chance for Bucks succes in the near future.

I can see a scenario where Giannis waits for Jrue to sign an extension with the Bucks before he signs his new contract.

I think Giannis is very motivated to beat this Lakers team with this team. If he wants greatness, he needs to stay. KD lost his chance for greatness because of his move to GSW.
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Post#1425 » by yannisk » Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:31 pm

I hope Giannis signs and I am pretty sure he will. But if I was him I wouldn't sign now but wait for next summer, see how the team does and check other situations. Even if he gets seriously injured he will get a big contract as Durant did.
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Post#1426 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:04 pm

i reaIIy dont care one way or the other about if we have giannis or not. a good soIid package of some youth and picks.... maybe a package invoIving a 2nd tier star who isnt a choker. but him waIking for nothing wouId definiteIy be **** up. that is the one thing you guard against fuIIforce. with jrue and middIeton Iopez and ddv we stiII have a heII of a core of guys to win with or dismantIe for heIIa picks and youth. but pick a direction. dont Iet a pIayer hoId you hostage. and be okc not SA. make the right deaI on this crossroads
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Post#1427 » by har13 » Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:14 pm

GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:i reaIIy dont care one way or the other about if we have giannis or not. a good soIid package of some youth and picks.... maybe a package invoIving a 2nd tier star who isnt a choker. but him waIking for nothing wouId definiteIy be **** up. that is the one thing you guard against fuIIforce. with jrue and middIeton Iopez and ddv we stiII have a heII of a core of guys to win with or dismantIe for heIIa picks and youth. but pick a direction. dont Iet a pIayer hoId you hostage. and be okc not SA. make the right deaI on this crossroads

Win what?
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Post#1428 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:19 pm

har13 wrote:
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:i reaIIy dont care one way or the other about if we have giannis or not. a good soIid package of some youth and picks.... maybe a package invoIving a 2nd tier star who isnt a choker. but him waIking for nothing wouId definiteIy be **** up. that is the one thing you guard against fuIIforce. with jrue and middIeton Iopez and ddv we stiII have a heII of a core of guys to win with or dismantIe for heIIa picks and youth. but pick a direction. dont Iet a pIayer hoId you hostage. and be okc not SA. make the right deaI on this crossroads

Win what?

a basketbaII game??? and more importantIy pIayoff basketbaII games
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Post#1429 » by JayMKE » Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:21 pm

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GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:i reaIIy dont care one way or the other about if we have giannis or not. a good soIid package of some youth and picks.... maybe a package invoIving a 2nd tier star who isnt a choker. but him waIking for nothing wouId definiteIy be **** up. that is the one thing you guard against fuIIforce. with jrue and middIeton Iopez and ddv we stiII have a heII of a core of guys to win with or dismantIe for heIIa picks and youth. but pick a direction. dont Iet a pIayer hoId you hostage. and be okc not SA. make the right deaI on this crossroads

Win what?


The 8th seed maybe
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Post#1430 » by har13 » Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:22 pm

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har13 wrote:
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:i reaIIy dont care one way or the other about if we have giannis or not. a good soIid package of some youth and picks.... maybe a package invoIving a 2nd tier star who isnt a choker. but him waIking for nothing wouId definiteIy be **** up. that is the one thing you guard against fuIIforce. with jrue and middIeton Iopez and ddv we stiII have a heII of a core of guys to win with or dismantIe for heIIa picks and youth. but pick a direction. dont Iet a pIayer hoId you hostage. and be okc not SA. make the right deaI on this crossroads

Win what?

a basketbaII game??? and more importantIy pIayoff basketbaII games

All 30 NBA teams win not just a game...
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Post#1431 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:25 pm

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har13 wrote:
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:i reaIIy dont care one way or the other about if we have giannis or not. a good soIid package of some youth and picks.... maybe a package invoIving a 2nd tier star who isnt a choker. but him waIking for nothing wouId definiteIy be **** up. that is the one thing you guard against fuIIforce. with jrue and middIeton Iopez and ddv we stiII have a heII of a core of guys to win with or dismantIe for heIIa picks and youth. but pick a direction. dont Iet a pIayer hoId you hostage. and be okc not SA. make the right deaI on this crossroads

Win what?


The 8th seed maybe

no. giannis or what he wouId brong back is the key to the castIe and that is a decade of being abIe to win a pIayoff series. this championship or bust mentaIity is absurd. giannis himseIf needs to wake the **** up and Iook at the mirro and ask himseIf if he cant shoot himseIf out of a bucket it needs to start with him. and maybe Iike i said the answer isnt 50 miIIon on a singIe guy that isnt even capabIe of winning it aII as the #1. that is a distinct possibiIity you know. that were basicaIIy trying to win with prime dwight howard or shaq in a Ieague that you cant win with a guy Iike that anymore. im not even reaIIy sure if we arent in the same damn boiat as phiIIy with simmons. great taIent but fataI fIaw?
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Post#1432 » by har13 » Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:39 pm

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har13 wrote:
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:i reaIIy dont care one way or the other about if we have giannis or not. a good soIid package of some youth and picks.... maybe a package invoIving a 2nd tier star who isnt a choker. but him waIking for nothing wouId definiteIy be **** up. that is the one thing you guard against fuIIforce. with jrue and middIeton Iopez and ddv we stiII have a heII of a core of guys to win with or dismantIe for heIIa picks and youth. but pick a direction. dont Iet a pIayer hoId you hostage. and be okc not SA. make the right deaI on this crossroads

Win what?

a basketbaII game??? and more importantIy pIayoff basketbaII games

Just to be clear the post i quoted was "a basketbaII game???" :D
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Post#1433 » by har13 » Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:55 pm

GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
JayMKE wrote:
har13 wrote:Win what?


The 8th seed maybe

no. giannis or what he wouId brong back is the key to the castIe and that is a decade of being abIe to win a pIayoff series. this championship or bust mentaIity is absurd. giannis himseIf needs to wake the **** up and Iook at the mirro and ask himseIf if he cant shoot himseIf out of a bucket it needs to start with him. and maybe Iike i said the answer isnt 50 miIIon on a singIe guy that isnt even capabIe of winning it aII as the #1. that is a distinct possibiIity you know. that were basicaIIy trying to win with prime dwight howard or shaq in a Ieague that you cant win with a guy Iike that anymore. im not even reaIIy sure if we arent in the same damn boiat as phiIIy with simmons. great taIent but fataI fIaw?

About your last sentence i laugh and sorry for that, Simmons? Really? WTF man? You lost your mind?

Also in your posts here i see that you always move the goalposts ...

You was a big fan of Bledsoe, a player who cant shoot at all to save his life and in a position that shooting is much more important than the PF.,,
..about Bogdan and DDV look the team and advanced stats but when they speak how bad is Forbes advanced stats you tell you dont care and you like him...lol man, i told you before i like you.

How can you bee a big DDV fan when he is a guard who cant shoot?

You also said in your post above me that you dont need to win a championsip, you want to be a winning team and i respect that but then again your team is giving so much of bucks future for a player like Holiday, if is not willing to go all in why are they doing it ? I really cant get that...
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Post#1434 » by greekbuck34 » Sun Nov 29, 2020 3:09 pm

GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
JayMKE wrote:
har13 wrote:Win what?


The 8th seed maybe

no. giannis or what he wouId brong back is the key to the castIe and that is a decade of being abIe to win a pIayoff series. this championship or bust mentaIity is absurd. giannis himseIf needs to wake the **** up and Iook at the mirro and ask himseIf if he cant shoot himseIf out of a bucket it needs to start with him. and maybe Iike i said the answer isnt 50 miIIon on a singIe guy that isnt even capabIe of winning it aII as the #1. that is a distinct possibiIity you know. that were basicaIIy trying to win with prime dwight howard or shaq in a Ieague that you cant win with a guy Iike that anymore. im not even reaIIy sure if we arent in the same damn boiat as phiIIy with simmons. great taIent but fataI fIaw?


Easy solution. You surround Giannis with shooters and I mean elite shooters like the ones in legit contender teams in the west and the ones in the east that keep beating us when it matters. The bucks are simply INCAPABLE of doing that after 8 seasons(3 competing). There is always a Bledsoe or a Pat C or a DDV or a Sterling Brown in all our lineups and everysingle elite coach will take advantage of that to form a wall in front of Giannis. Because stopping him even with their entire defense is all that matters in the end. No bledsoe or DDV or Pat C will ever shoot you to death so there is no point of defending them.

The other teams are salivating about Giannis because they know they can provide that for him. They are doing it for years without having him. A pool of elite shooters is a must these days if you want a ring. After 2 failed attempts we probably realised that but still we could do nothing about it for various known reasons. Losing 3 of our 4 elite shooters(Wes,Korver,Hill), giving up all our assets for two seasons of Jrue, botching the Bogdan trade and filling our squad with even more questionable shooters or ones that are incapable of doing anything on the court else won't do it.
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Post#1435 » by TroyD92 » Sun Nov 29, 2020 3:23 pm

greekbuck34 wrote:
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
JayMKE wrote:
The 8th seed maybe

no. giannis or what he wouId brong back is the key to the castIe and that is a decade of being abIe to win a pIayoff series. this championship or bust mentaIity is absurd. giannis himseIf needs to wake the **** up and Iook at the mirro and ask himseIf if he cant shoot himseIf out of a bucket it needs to start with him. and maybe Iike i said the answer isnt 50 miIIon on a singIe guy that isnt even capabIe of winning it aII as the #1. that is a distinct possibiIity you know. that were basicaIIy trying to win with prime dwight howard or shaq in a Ieague that you cant win with a guy Iike that anymore. im not even reaIIy sure if we arent in the same damn boiat as phiIIy with simmons. great taIent but fataI fIaw?


Easy solution. You surround Giannis with shooters and I mean elite shooters like the ones in legit contender teams in the west and the ones in the east that keep beating us when it matters. The bucks are simply INCAPABLE of doing that after 8 seasons(3 competing). There is always a Bledsoe or a Pat C or a DDV or a Sterling Brown in all our lineups and everysingle elite coach will take advantage of that to form a wall in front of Giannis. Because stopping him even with their entire defense is all that matters in the end. No bledsoe or DDV or Pat C will ever shoot you to death so there is no point of defending them.

The other teams are salivating about Giannis because they know they can provide that for him. They are doing it for years without having him. A pool of elite shooters is a must these days if you want a ring. After 2 failed attempts we probably realised that but still we could do nothing about it for various known reasons. Losing 3 of our 4 elite shooters(Wes,Korver,Hill), giving up all our assets for two seasons of Jrue, botching the Bogdan trade and filling our squad with even more questionable shooters or ones that are incapable of doing anything on the court else won't do it.


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Post#1436 » by WRau1 » Sun Nov 29, 2020 3:44 pm

Says we failed to surround Giannis with elite shooters but then we lost 3 of 4 elite shooters we had. Weird.
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Post#1437 » by Matches Malone » Sun Nov 29, 2020 3:46 pm

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Post#1438 » by Fotis St » Sun Nov 29, 2020 4:04 pm

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raferfenix wrote:If Giannis signs the supermax I think we get 1 year at the least where he is not thinking about going elsewhere.

Provided Holiday extends we most likely get 2 seasons. Giannis could pull an OKC Paul George move that summer in theory but idk if I see it.

After that though all bets are off.

As a condition I wish Giannis would insist on bringing in a serious executive who won’t screw up deals like Bogdan (i.e. salary cap goofs alongside reckless PR plays). That seems unlikely this late in the offseason but who knows.


If he would stop being a little cryptic with his responses like I’ll stay.....as long as they make the right moves. What’s the right moves? I’ll stay as long as we keep winning.....is that winning like you have or more.


Even on his MVP Award he said that he wants the BIG Trophy . He has been clear for a long time. He even recruited Bogdan and this incompetent Org managed to **** it up too.
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Post#1439 » by greekbuck34 » Sun Nov 29, 2020 4:20 pm

WRau1 wrote:Says we failed to surround Giannis with elite shooters but then we lost 3 of 4 elite shooters we had. Weird.


We had Khris, Wes and 34y G.Hill and 39y Korver coming from the bench. Everybody else couldn't shoot or were simply unplayable. That's it.
If you think this is "surrounding Giannis with elite shooters" and we are somehow a lot better this season shooting wise to avoid the wall or taking advantage of the wide open shots its giving us then there is no point of discussing it farther.


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Post#1440 » by DavidDunn21 » Sun Nov 29, 2020 4:23 pm

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It's a good thing for you this perfect woman loves a fixer-upper, and improbably she is always speaking of how special you are, how you are her first and only. You even let her worthless brother live below you rent-free when you really needed to fill that space with a tenant who could contribute something. Actually, you treat her entire family like your own. In your private moments you sometimes have a bit of remorse about your calculation in regards to her brothers and other concessions you've made over the years, but YOUR LOVE IS TRUE. You can't imagine living without her.

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