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Post#1421 » by machu46 » Wed Jun 1, 2022 5:54 pm

RRyder823 wrote:Obi Wan

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You almost have to try to make a Obi Wan vrs Vader chase/fight scene suck but God damn Disney succeeded in just that.

Gotta love the consistency though.

I'm gonna burn you in this fire.... Nope never mind. Don't want to any more. I'm gonna put this fire in between us out with the force so we can grab you. Wait what someone else reignited the fire in between us. How on earth could I put this fire out? He's getting away. If only someone could get rid of this fire.

Plot holes are a thing and sure i get that sometumes the plot demands things that dont make sense but I don't even think 30 seconds past in between that. Like who is writing this show?

And FYI kid Leia might be one of the worst written characters I've seen in a very long time.


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I've enjoyed young Leia personally. But yeah, kinda similar to the first episode where the grand inquisitor let the Jedi get away, I think the only argument you can really make re: the fire is that Vader felt like he'd catch up with Obi Wan later anyways. I also loved how Leia was seemingly almost through the tunnel and told to just keep running straight and you'll get there. Reva was trying to follow her path and then all of a sudden was waiting for her at the end of the tunnel?
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Post#1422 » by RRyder823 » Wed Jun 1, 2022 5:57 pm

RRyder823 wrote:Obi Wan

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You almost have to try to make a Obi Wan vrs Vader chase/fight scene suck but God damn Disney succeeded in just that.

Gotta love the consistency though.

I'm gonna burn you in this fire.... Nope never mind. Don't want to any more. I'm gonna put this fire in between us out with the force so we can grab you. Wait what someone else reignited the fire in between us. How on earth could I put this fire out? He's getting away. If only someone could get rid of this fire.

Plot holes are a thing and sure i get that sometumes the plot demands things that dont make sense but I don't even think 30 seconds past in between that. Like who is writing this show?

And FYI kid Leia might be one of the worst written characters I've seen in a very long time.


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I'm really starting to think the leaks were true and God damn if that's just not gonna drive away even more people if it is


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Post#1423 » by truly » Wed Jun 1, 2022 9:26 pm

machu46 wrote:
RRyder823 wrote:Obi Wan

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You almost have to try to make a Obi Wan vrs Vader chase/fight scene suck but God damn Disney succeeded in just that.

Gotta love the consistency though.

I'm gonna burn you in this fire.... Nope never mind. Don't want to any more. I'm gonna put this fire in between us out with the force so we can grab you. Wait what someone else reignited the fire in between us. How on earth could I put this fire out? He's getting away. If only someone could get rid of this fire.

Plot holes are a thing and sure i get that sometumes the plot demands things that dont make sense but I don't even think 30 seconds past in between that. Like who is writing this show?

And FYI kid Leia might be one of the worst written characters I've seen in a very long time.


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I've enjoyed young Leia personally. But yeah, kinda similar to the first episode where the grand inquisitor let the Jedi get away, I think the only argument you can really make re: the fire is that Vader felt like he'd catch up with Obi Wan later anyways. I also loved how Leia was seemingly almost through the tunnel and told to just keep running straight and you'll get there. Reva was trying to follow her path and then all of a sudden was waiting for her at the end of the tunnel?




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Yes it was complete bs.She also found the correct house to go in at random?Who is writing this show?

I did like that Vader tried to burn him as revenge but the rest of the scene didn't make any sense as rryder said.
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Post#1424 » by blazza18 » Wed Jun 1, 2022 11:21 pm

Kenobi

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Vader was legitimate terrifying like holy ****. Think the writers had a tough time in making anything between him and Kenobi matter without changing the cannon and pissing people off more. Guess that's why we ended up where we did. It was fine but eh? Also not really sure how Reva got in front of Leia at the end?
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Post#1425 » by paulpressey25 » Thu Jun 2, 2022 2:02 am

Matches Malone wrote:I think I'm coming to the realization that I'm no longer a Star Wars fan. I'll always have the original trilogy and clone wars, but everything that's come out since Force Awakens has been meh to me.


Think they’ve run out of ideas, and having so much of the productions be in the form of 8-10 part series means you have to come up with 300+ minutes of content versus 120 minutes in a feature film. As a result, there is just too much repetition and scene filling for time.
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Post#1426 » by Licensed to Il » Thu Jun 2, 2022 3:15 am

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Matches Malone wrote:I think I'm coming to the realization that I'm no longer a Star Wars fan. I'll always have the original trilogy and clone wars, but everything that's come out since Force Awakens has been meh to me.


Think they’ve run out of ideas, and having so much of the productions be in the form of 8-10 part series means you have to come up with 300+ minutes of content versus 120 minutes in a feature film. As a result, there is just too much repetition and scene filling for time.


When they do something new, it typically doesn’t feel “star warsy” but when they do the same old thing it feels repetitive and overly familiar. They kind of are screwed either way. But that’s what happens when Disney squeezes its billion dollar sponges over and over (Marvel, Star Wars, etc).
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Post#1427 » by emunney » Thu Jun 2, 2022 2:04 pm

I've been a fan of Star Wars for a long time but I've never been a Star Wars Fan. From my perspective, though, the thing that makes SW good and fun is not like fidelity to canon or internal consistency, but that seems to be what much of the fandom focuses all their energy on, so we end up with **** like How Greedo Got His Scarf.

For me, what makes SW good and fun is the wildness of it, the "Huh?" of Luke stepping into the cantina for the first time or squeezing blue monster milk into his mouth. That stuff is pure industrial delight and magic. Rules are not. Careful deliberation is not. There's no time for that in an adventure.
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Post#1428 » by crkone » Thu Jun 2, 2022 2:07 pm

emunney wrote:I've been a fan of Star Wars for a long time but I've never been a Star Wars Fan. From my perspective, though, the thing that makes SW good and fun is not like fidelity to canon or internal consistency, but that seems to be what much of the fandom focuses all their energy on, so we end up with **** like How Greedo Got His Scarf.

For me, what makes SW good and fun is the wildness of it, the "Huh?" of Luke stepping into the cantina for the first time or squeezing blue monster milk into his mouth. That stuff is pure industrial delight and magic. Rules are not. Careful deliberation is not. There's no time for that in an adventure.


I'm only here for the explicit details into trade agreements and congressional orders.

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Post#1429 » by emunney » Thu Jun 2, 2022 2:24 pm

crkone wrote:
emunney wrote:I've been a fan of Star Wars for a long time but I've never been a Star Wars Fan. From my perspective, though, the thing that makes SW good and fun is not like fidelity to canon or internal consistency, but that seems to be what much of the fandom focuses all their energy on, so we end up with **** like How Greedo Got His Scarf.

For me, what makes SW good and fun is the wildness of it, the "Huh?" of Luke stepping into the cantina for the first time or squeezing blue monster milk into his mouth. That stuff is pure industrial delight and magic. Rules are not. Careful deliberation is not. There's no time for that in an adventure.


I'm only here for the explicit details into trade agreements and congressional orders.


"Turmoil has engulfed the Galactic Republic."

Ooh turmoil!

"The taxation of trade routes..."

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Post#1430 » by RogerMurdock » Thu Jun 2, 2022 2:26 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:Barry's a weird show in that it can be aggressively average for 90% of the time and then special as hell out of the blue.


First two seasons were fantastic. This season has been kind of "meh" for me, not all that funny, but the latest episode was a BANGER. Had me laughing out loud several times, the dark stuff was on point, and stylistically, it was great.
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Post#1431 » by RogerMurdock » Thu Jun 2, 2022 2:28 pm

If you want to feast your eyes on me for a couple seconds, I'm in the Episode 4 of the latest season of Stranger Things. A little after the 51-minute mark, I'm unloading the moving truck. My son might be a blur in an episode, as well, but that scene hasn't happened yet.
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Post#1432 » by chonestown » Thu Jun 2, 2022 2:30 pm

Picture it: a war...in the stars.
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Post#1433 » by emunney » Thu Jun 2, 2022 2:33 pm

RogerMurdock wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:Barry's a weird show in that it can be aggressively average for 90% of the time and then special as hell out of the blue.


First two seasons were fantastic. This season has been kind of "meh" for me, not all that funny, but the latest episode was a BANGER. Had me laughing out loud several times, the dark stuff was on point, and stylistically, it was great.


I haven't watched the most recent episode yet but thematically the season seems like it's really about consequences, which is a drag! Also felt like the wrong note to play to have the Barry-Sally relationship take the turn it did. Audience relationship with Barry is already precarious, so it's a big ask to lay that on top of exploring the fallout from his hits.
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Post#1434 » by ReasonablySober » Thu Jun 2, 2022 2:36 pm

RogerMurdock wrote:If you want to feast your eyes on me for a couple seconds, I'm in the Episode 4 of the latest season of Stranger Things. A little after the 51-minute mark, I'm unloading the moving truck. My son might be a blur in an episode, as well, but that scene hasn't happened yet.


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Post#1435 » by machu46 » Thu Jun 2, 2022 2:49 pm

Stranger Things has been simply electric this season. I thought I was kinda over the show but this season has been a home run to me. It’s not like a true horror or anything but they definitely upped the horror vibes this season with some Nightmare on Elm Street and IT vibes. A couple of my friends that don’t dig horror had to bail on the show and I know some parents had to stop their kids from watching it but I’m personally loving it.


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Post#1436 » by ReasonablySober » Thu Jun 2, 2022 2:50 pm

Yea, this season has mostly ruled. Episodes 4 and 7 are so freaking good.
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Post#1437 » by Ron Swanson » Thu Jun 2, 2022 4:47 pm

Obi-Wan is terrible. Sorry, it is what it is. Disney/Star Wars has been pumping out mediocre movies and shows for the sole purpose of "fan service" for a while now, but this might be peak "why did they need to make this?" for me. Nothing has any real consequences (of course, we know all the main characters survive) which just kills any sort of suspense or build-up. And the expendable characters are just bland, cookie-cutter Sith baddies with no real reason to exist in the context of the already established narrative.

The Vader/Obi-Wan confrontation already happening this early is so damn forced. It's like the showrunners know that it's all fans care about, so better shoe-horn it in early in the series so people don't realize the entire rest of the show is just filler, I guess? Also:

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Obi-Wan being to able to "escape" Vader by simply......being on the other side of a gas fire? Legitimately had me laughing in disbelief. I mean yeah, Vader can literally use the force to **** fly through the air, but a gas fire with 6-ft tall flames? Instantly gives up. :lol:
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Post#1438 » by machu46 » Thu Jun 2, 2022 5:16 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Obi-Wan is terrible. Sorry, it is what it is. Disney/Star Wars has been pumping out mediocre movies and shows for the sole purpose of "fan service" for a while now, but this might be peak "why did they need to make this?" for me. Nothing has any real consequences (of course, we know all the main characters survive) which just kills any sort of suspense or build-up. And the expendable characters are just bland, cookie-cutter Sith baddies with no real reason to exist in the context of the already established narrative.

The Vader/Obi-Wan confrontation already happening this early is so damn forced. It's like the showrunners know that it's all fans care about, so better shoe-horn it in early in the series so people don't realize the entire rest of the show is just filler, I guess? Also:

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Obi-Wan being to able to "escape" Vader by simply......being on the other side of a gas fire? Legitimately had me laughing in disbelief. I mean yeah, Vader can literally use the force to **** fly through the air, but a gas fire with 6-ft tall flames? Instantly gives up. :lol:


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Giving the show the benefit of the doubt, I’m gonna say Vader was content with letting him get away. He was obviously toying with him during the lightsaber duel and just slowly torturing him with the fire so it’s possible he just let him off the hook knowing they’ll cross paths again. It’s a bit laughable, but I think Reva being way behind Leía when she finds the tunnel and then waiting for her at the other end was even more laughable.


All in all I think it’s been pretty great though despite the couple of laughable moments. Excited to see if a few other characters from Rebels pop up in this show.


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Post#1439 » by humanrefutation » Thu Jun 2, 2022 5:29 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Obi-Wan is terrible. Sorry, it is what it is. Disney/Star Wars has been pumping out mediocre movies and shows for the sole purpose of "fan service" for a while now, but this might be peak "why did they need to make this?" for me. Nothing has any real consequences (of course, we know all the main characters survive) which just kills any sort of suspense or build-up. And the expendable characters are just bland, cookie-cutter Sith baddies with no real reason to exist in the context of the already established narrative.

The Vader/Obi-Wan confrontation already happening this early is so damn forced. It's like the showrunners know that it's all fans care about, so better shoe-horn it in early in the series so people don't realize the entire rest of the show is just filler, I guess? Also:

Spoiler:
Obi-Wan being to able to "escape" Vader by simply......being on the other side of a gas fire? Legitimately had me laughing in disbelief. I mean yeah, Vader can literally use the force to **** fly through the air, but a gas fire with 6-ft tall flames? Instantly gives up. :lol:


I'm generally with you that I've found the show underwhelming, and I'm a sucker for this kind of Star Wars content that fills in the blanks between the films.
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The fact that the Vader-Obi confrontation took place halfway through the season isn't totally shocking to me, but it was a bit surprising. For me, there are so many details that this series seems to be retconning - from the Grand Inquisitor seemingly perishing two episodes in when we know he's a big part of Rebels, to Leia's relationship with Obi, to Vader being the "learner" before confronting Obi in New Hope.

I'm still hopeful that they'll resolve some of these things by the end of the season, and I'm also looking forward to seeing if we get some Quinlan Vos action.
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Post#1440 » by RRyder823 » Thu Jun 2, 2022 6:15 pm

Episode by episode im more and more convinced that the leaks concerning Obi Wan are true and if you think people are upset by Disney's apparent want to ret con existing lore now then get your popcorn ready

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