Giannis Thread - On Asking for a Trade - "I am not this kind of guy, they would have to kick me out”.

worthlessBucks · Post #1421 » by **worthlessBucks** » Tue May 13, 2025 12:01 am

Lively is simply a better form Gadz. A fine complementary player to your star and on an already good team, but not the second best component to a Giannis trade. Nope. Not for me. Give me all those thunder picks, you can find yourself a Lively with one of them.

Dick Tate · Post #1422 » by **Dick Tate** » Tue May 13, 2025 12:02 am

But but but... the tweet this morning said if the Spurs moved to #2, they were the sweepstakes winner.

Post #1423 » by **paulpressey25** » Tue May 13, 2025 12:04 am

Ron Swanson wrote:Cooper Flagg isn’t basketball Jesus. Why you guys are even entertaining Mavs trades is beyond me. A freshly injured Derek Lively and a few crappy firsts? They have nothing else.

Well - I'm not interested in Spurs crap either. Houston has a slew of 20-22 year old promising guys AND great draft picks.

msiris · Post #1424 » by **msiris** » Tue May 13, 2025 12:07 am

Ron Swanson wrote:Cooper Flagg isn’t basketball Jesus. Why you guys are even entertaining Mavs trades is beyond me. A freshly injured Derek Lively and a few crappy firsts? They have nothing else.

Yeah. Nobody knows if he will be a superstar. Welcome home Giannis. Oh you never left.

BucksFanSD · Post #1425 » by **BucksFanSD** » Tue May 13, 2025 12:11 am

Moving Giannis is best for the franchise and it's the best for Giannis to win championships the next few years. But you have to go get a guy with insane potential like Flagg. The issue with the Mavs is that AD and Giannis are likely not the best fit, but that may not matter. That team would be favored to win it all IMO. Meanwhile Flagg is the hope we need, while we can recover some of the lost assets these next 5 years. Lively would be a nice add on piece. If he can play enough games next year, you could then flip him for a big growth package as a possibility. We lack flexibility. This would be a huge reset that would add a lot of flexibility while still having a face of the franchise.

BucksFanSD · Post #1426 » by **BucksFanSD** » Tue May 13, 2025 12:16 am

paulpressey25 wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Cooper Flagg isn’t basketball Jesus. Why you guys are even entertaining Mavs trades is beyond me. A freshly injured Derek Lively and a few crappy firsts? They have nothing else.

Well - I'm not interested in Spurs crap either. Houston has a slew of 20-22 year old promising guys AND great draft picks.

It's between Houston and a Flagg package to me if Giannis wants it. Flagg is a special, speacial player. He's also a two way player, has insane desire, and he's a HS senior age right now. It would be a biddding war between these two teams IMO.

BroncoBuck · Post #1427 » by **BroncoBuck** » Tue May 13, 2025 12:17 am

soxperry wrote:
BroncoBuck wrote:It would have to be the Kyrie expiring not AD.

Kyrie (expiring)
Christie
Lively
Flagg
Lakers 1st
Swaps

Giannis
Pat

Why would Dallas do that? It really only makes sense if Kyrie stays

Kyrie tore his ACL two months ago and is the matching salary they would need to make the deal work.

BigO · Post #1428 » by **BigO** » Tue May 13, 2025 12:19 am

BroncoBuck wrote:It would have to be the Kyrie expiring not AD.

Kyrie (expiring)
Christie
Lively
Flagg
Lakers 1st
Swaps

Giannis
Pat

Wait! Don't forget to include Kuzma. I don't want him to infect Flagg.

Post #1429 » by **paulpressey25** » Tue May 13, 2025 12:20 am

BucksFanSD wrote:It's between Houston and a Flagg package to me if Giannis wants it. Flagg is a special, speacial player. He's also a two way player, has insane desire, and he's a HS senior age right now. It would be a biddding war between these two teams IMO.

Same. Two Texas teams with no income tax down there.

Let's get those two teams in a bidding war.

JayMKE · Post #1430 » by **JayMKE** » Tue May 13, 2025 12:23 am

Mavs would need to offer #1 and AD, Kyrie is negative value and they don’t have any other assets. If I was Giannis I’d prefer to stay in Milwaukee.

BroncoBuck · Post #1431 » by **BroncoBuck** » Tue May 13, 2025 12:24 am

paulpressey25 wrote:
BucksFanSD wrote:It's between Houston and a Flagg package to me if Giannis wants it. Flagg is a special, speacial player. He's also a two way player, has insane desire, and he's a HS senior age right now. It would be a biddding war between these two teams IMO.

Same. Two Texas teams with no income tax down there.

Let's get those two teams in a bidding war.

Houston has more assets, but none of them come close to Flagg for me. Maybe the Bucks could get Dallas to ship out pieces like Lively for picks if that’s what they want. I’d just rather have the generational lottery ticket in Flagg rather than a combination of Thompson and Jabari or Sengun.

Swan Vox · Post #1432 » by **Swan Vox** » Tue May 13, 2025 12:24 am

Keep Giannis.

Profound23 · Post #1433 » by **Profound23** » Tue May 13, 2025 12:24 am

Giannis and Dame for Flagg, AD, Kyrie, Lively. Flip AD and Kyrie for our picks back from whatever teams own them.

raferfenix · Post #1434 » by **raferfenix** » Tue May 13, 2025 12:25 am

Watching Giannis on the post-Luka Mavs would be some depressing ish.

Post #1435 » by **paulpressey25** » Tue May 13, 2025 12:26 am

BroncoBuck wrote:
Houston has more assets, but none of them come close to Flagg for me. Maybe the Bucks could get Dallas to ship out pieces like Lively for picks if that’s what they want. I’d just rather have the generational lottery ticket in Flagg rather than a combination of Thompson and Jabari or Sengun.

I'd be hesitant to use some of Giannis value to dump bad salary. But if you want Flagg, maybe part of this equation is dumping bad salary.

soxperry · Post #1436 » by **soxperry** » Tue May 13, 2025 12:36 am

i forgot about Kyrie's injury. Dallas has no business trading for Giannis. We dont want their package and they aren't going to win more with him than we would.

jakecronus8 · Post #1437 » by **jakecronus8** » Tue May 13, 2025 12:39 am

More likely Dallas tries to dump AD for young guys and picks?

Post #1438 » by **ReasonablySober** » Tue May 13, 2025 12:45 am

soxperry wrote:i forgot about Kyrie's injury. Dallas has no business trading for Giannis. We dont want their package and they aren't going to win more with him than we would.

Yea, I somehow memory holed that one too. Seems like the move for Dallas would be to trade AD for whatever they can get. Let Kyrie's deal expire. Build around Flagg, Lively, and whatever you get for AD.

Flagg dream is dead.

Post #1439 » by **Prez** » Tue May 13, 2025 12:48 am

No idea if he gets traded, but if he does, I think I'd bet on it being a Castle + #2 + other picks type of package from the Spurs.

Frank Nova · Post #1440 » by **Frank Nova** » Tue May 13, 2025 12:52 am

Prez wrote:No idea if he gets traded, but if he does, I think I'd bet on it being a Castle + #2 + other picks type of package from the Spurs.

Harper and Castle could grow into a dynamic back court. There’s a lot to like there, doesn’t even scratch the surface comparing to Giannis but I get the appeal. I’m keeping Giannis tho.