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[MickeyDavis]

I'm not expecting much this season. I don't think there's anything they can realistically do that would make me believe they can beat a healthy Celtics team. I know I'm in the minority but I'd start thinking about the immediate future today.

Is there anything we can do today to get better for next season?

Without pissing Giannis off is the key

I think the team needs to get past the "What would Giannis think" stuff. Sure you give him the courtesy of talking to him before making moves but you need to do what you think is best for the team, not what makes Giannis feels good. He's in year 11, each and every year is about trying to put the best team on the court. Even if some of Giannis' buddies have to go.

[Profound23]

Someone talk me off the ledge with this team, It's starting to settle in that there might be no more buttons to push. My expectations are fading

If Dame returns to form and we get just 1 longboi defender by next week then we don't even need as much help as we got the year we won it to win it again.

There are no "ifs".

WE ARE GOING TO WIN THE CHAMPIONSHIP! Book it.....

[Milbucks96]

Someone talk me off the ledge with this team, It's starting to settle in that there might be no more buttons to push. My expectations are fading

I don’t think it’s any buttons but I do think we can get some improvements from Dame, Khris continues to play better, and maybe Doc can add to that by not being Griffen. That’s the only optimism I can give.

[msiris]

I'm not expecting much this season. I don't think there's anything they can realistically do that would make me believe they can beat a healthy Celtics team. I know I'm in the minority but I'd start thinking about the immediate future today.

Is there anything we can do today to get better for next season?

Without pissing Giannis off is the key

I think the team needs to get past the "What would Giannis think" stuff. Sure you give him the courtesy of talking to him before making moves but you need to do what you think is best for the team, not what makes Giannis feels good. He's in year 11, each and every year is about trying to put the best team on the court. Even if some of Giannis' buddies have to go.

If he wants to win more Championships he would be wise in doing so. I love Giannis but I don't think he is that smart.

[VooDoo7]

[emunney]

[msiris]

Bobby replacement if he gets traded otherwise why?

[WeekapaugGroove]

Suns drafted both Chriss and Bender over Sabonis. Ryan McDonough was a criminal GM.

I always thought if you could combine Bender and Chriss into one player, Chriss athletic ability and aggression with Benders skill and BBIQ you'd have a hall of famer.

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[DingleJerry]

Felt like a blast from the past when I saw the name. Looked it up and somehow he's only 26. Also, I was surprised to see he hadn't had a major injury (at least not mentioned on wiki) that led to his flameout. It was seemingly just not being good. In theory his size/body/athleticism makes sense with what they need but I can't imagine anyway he's rotation quality for a top end team. Seems like he'll just be a Herd guy and I'd expect nothing at the NBA level. Probably not worth spending any more time thinking about.

[yannisk]

I'm not expecting much this season. I don't think there's anything they can realistically do that would make me believe they can beat a healthy Celtics team. I know I'm in the minority but I'd start thinking about the immediate future today.

Is there anything we can do today to get better for next season?

Without pissing Giannis off is the key

I think the "pissing Giannis" is overstated, we traded Snell and Thon his best two buddies and nobody cared.

Just keep Thanasis around just in case though

[kanyon]

Undersized 4/5 tweeners always ride single file to hide their numbers.

[BroncoBuck]

You guys have gone nuts. Dame isn't shooting the 3 well, but that's not because he's getting old. Players don't lose their shooting. He's as explosive as ever.

The team needs a couple of PoA defenders. They're role players. Not that hard to get. Maybe a backup center that defends.

Yeah, sometimes the bench doesn't score enough or defend enough. All benches do that, the NBA is a game of runs.

I've been a Brook critic for a long time, but he hasn't aged a bit, and the leagues best teams are now center driven, making it easier to match up with him. Middleton gets better every week.

Horst just needs to acquire the right role players.

Brook has definitely aged. He’s definitely far more willing to stand around the perimeter on offense than get down low in the paint. He used to be elite at boxing out and now he’s gotten lazier. He’s always complained to the refs, but he seems to do so even more now.

He’s not barbecue chicken, but he’s definitely not the Brook of last year or even the years prior.

I agree that he's not Contract Year Brook, but he's the same guy he was when we won the title.

Watch what he does when he’s down low and the ball goes off the rim on defense. He’s consistently taking a step backwards away from the rim and no longer boxing out and fighting like he used to. The Spurs game last month was the game that did it for me. He just refused to fight for it against those guys.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Felt like a blast from the past when I saw the name. Looked it up and somehow he's only 26. Also, I was surprised to see he hadn't had a major injury (at least not mentioned on wiki) that led to his flameout. It was seemingly just not being good. In theory his size/body/athleticism makes sense with what they need but I can't imagine anyway he's rotation quality for a top end team. Seems like he'll just be a Herd guy and I'd expect nothing at the NBA level. Probably not worth spending any more time thinking about.

He had a pretty bad broken leg a couple years back with GS. But Chriss problems have always been between the ears.

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[yb90]

I'd be more impressed if they signed and stashed K. Porter Jr. If not for this year then save him for next year.

[ShootingtheJ]

Bobby replacement if he gets traded otherwise why?

Likely simply because the Herd needed a guy after Drew Timme broke his foot.

[DanoMac]

I'd be more impressed if they signed and stashed K. Porter Jr. If not for this year then save him for next year.

Nah, keep that scumbag out of the league.

[Plossum]

We really need to use AJ Green more off the bench. For a team that struggles a bit offensively at times, particularly without bench production, we have a 41% three point sniper sitting on the bench gathering dust.

And it’s not like he’s whiffing when he gets a (proper) shot. Free AJ.

[msiris]

Brook has definitely aged. He’s definitely far more willing to stand around the perimeter on offense than get down low in the paint. He used to be elite at boxing out and now he’s gotten lazier. He’s always complained to the refs, but he seems to do so even more now.

He’s not barbecue chicken, but he’s definitely not the Brook of last year or even the years prior.

I agree that he's not Contract Year Brook, but he's the same guy he was when we won the title.

Watch what he does when he’s down low and the ball goes off the rim on defense. He’s consistently taking a step backwards away from the rim and no longer boxing out and fighting like he used to. The Spurs game last month was the game that did it for me. He just refused to fight for it against those guys.

Career numbers would suggest that he has never been a good rebounder for a guy his size.

[M-C-G]

I'm not expecting much this season. I don't think there's anything they can realistically do that would make me believe they can beat a healthy Celtics team. I know I'm in the minority but I'd start thinking about the immediate future today.

Is there anything we can do today to get better for next season?

Without pissing Giannis off is the key

I think the team needs to get past the "What would Giannis think" stuff. Sure you give him the courtesy of talking to him before making moves but you need to do what you think is best for the team, not what makes Giannis feels good. He's in year 11, each and every year is about trying to put the best team on the court. Even if some of Giannis' buddies have to go.

I think there might have been some kid gloves on leading up to the extension, but seems to me Giannis got his guy in Dame (don't believe for a second he didn't sign off on Jrue being needed in the deal) and got his guy in AG. He is extended, the team is underperforming as constructed, so give Doc a week or two to sort it out and then adjust the roster as Horst/Doc see fit.

[DingleJerry]

I agree that he's not Contract Year Brook, but he's the same guy he was when we won the title.

Watch what he does when he’s down low and the ball goes off the rim on defense. He’s consistently taking a step backwards away from the rim and no longer boxing out and fighting like he used to. The Spurs game last month was the game that did it for me. He just refused to fight for it against those guys.

Career numbers would suggest that he has never been a good rebounder for a guy his size.

Yup, however there has always been positive team rebounding correlations with him. And in general its supported by the eye test that he takes care of his guy (usually the best rebounder on the other team) and thus it leaves the rebound wide open for someone else to get it. Ersan was a guy of years past who was a beast at taking care of his guy first, he'd look away from the hoop and seek a body. Brook historically has too. Giannis on the other hand doesn't really box/body out at all, he's just such a freak and theoretically has been helped by Brook muddying it all up keeping people out of his way. Jabari, I think I only saw him ever box out one time in his years he.

The OP on this discussion is saying Brooks being soft on that this year. Personally I don't have a comment other than team rebounding has been bad so it seems to correlate at least.