Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Horst to Detroit rumor

[Fotis St]

If the Bucks flame out in the first round this year, this Board will be at an all time freak-out mode.

There will be a fight to the death competition between:

1) fire Horst
2) bring back Bud
3) trade Dame
4) trade Giannis
5) fire Doc
6) cut Bobby (that's a given)

Or probably all of the above.

Funny thing is, I know exactly who will be pushing each narrative. They are laying in wait. Almost worth it, but not quite.

My moves would be :

1) Trade Khris, Brook, Pat ( + Sign & Trade Beasley if possible)

2) Get Doc an experienced assistant like Stotts.


Giannis needs teammates that are available to carry some of the regural season load... in order to stay fresh for playoffs.

For example if we were NOT on a 4 Ls losing streak ... GIANNIS WOULD NOT PLAY INJURED ...
Lillard Khris Brook Pat are paid 100M combined ... so fu for cruising through the year. The only player who carried a bit was Lillard.... so he is my keeper ... I want the rest of the others GOOOOONE this summer.

I appreciate them for the ring BUT we can replace them with players paid half of the money we spent for them.

It will be painful for Giannis BUT Bucks have to make the decision for him... much like the Dame trade.

PS ... FU Jrue for not retiring ... If only you could not shoot 1/8 WIDE OPEN 3s at the playoffs ... it was that easy ... you dmbfkl@$$@^@^%@%@*$*$*(!(@$^^@ , you are just one more reason to become anticeltic

[pifhluk23]

6 years of Bledsoe and Jrue shooting average under 40% fg and under 30% 3p in the playoffs and the year we finally get a pg we may not even see him and Giannis together.

[ShootingtheJ]

6 years of Bledsoe and Jrue shooting average under 40% fg and under 30% 3p in the playoffs and the year we finally get a pg we may not even see him and Giannis together.

Why wouldn't we see them together?

[ShootingtheJ]

Yeah, I doubt Suki has much influence in the final decision aside from laying out the facts of severity, risk, etc. I imagine once they have that information it is out of her hands.

Agree, especially because Suki isn't in charge. Flanigan is.

[jute2003]

Maybe he just got hurt and it's nobody's fault.

And maybe playing him a ton of minutes and on b2b when he was already hobbled was completely irresponsible.

Maybe.

But sure just pretend it's nobody's fault if that makes you less stressed.

It's just sports.

He got hurt when bud played him baby minutes and he got hurt when doc push him.

**** happens

[BigO]

One thing about Jrue Holiday.

He has it so much easier now than he had it in Milwaukee. He doesn't have to bring the ball up and set up the offense. And he is literally the fifth option on offense in Boston.

His job now is to guard the other team's best player, but the Celtics switch a lot, so he doesn't even do that for much of the game.
I'm surprised he got what he did in the extension. Quite a nice gig.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

And maybe playing him a ton of minutes and on b2b when he was already hobbled was completely irresponsible.

Maybe.

But sure just pretend it's nobody's fault if that makes you less stressed.

It's just sports.

He got hurt when bud played him baby minutes and he got hurt when doc push him.

**** happens

I agree but for the sake of argument, Giannis under Bud seemed to get injuries due to impact (Undercut by KLove, knee going the wrong way). This seems more like a wear and tear injury? IDK Im not a doctor.

But we are also like 2 games out of the 7th seed? When we were under Bud we had a cushion a lot of the time as a 1-seed. Part of that is Bud is a great coach and part of that is Midds, Brook, Pat and others were just better in those years. Doc really didn't have much of a choice to sit Giannis.

[Profound23]

Maybe.



It's just sports.

He got hurt when bud played him baby minutes and he got hurt when doc push him.

**** happens

I agree but for the sake of argument, Giannis under Bud seemed to get injuries due to impact (Undercut by KLove, knee going the wrong way). This seems more like a wear and tear injury? IDK Im not a doctor.

But we are also like 2 games out of the 7th seed? When we were under Bud we had a cushion a lot of the time as a 1-seed. Part of that is Bud is a great coach and part of that is Midds, Brook, Pat and others were just better in those years. Doc really didn't have much of a choice to sit Giannis.

Correct, when he had an achilles/hamstring thing going on they should have given him more time off.

Also, for those who wanted a coach like Thibs or Nurse (myself included) this probably would have happened faster and Giannis would have been out sooner with a more intense injury.

[chonestown]

One thing about Jrue Holiday.

He has it so much easier now than he had it in Milwaukee. He doesn't have to bring the ball up and set up the offense. And he is literally the fifth option on offense in Boston.

His job now is to guard the other team's best player, but the Celtics switch a lot, so he doesn't even do that for much of the game.
I'm surprised he got what he did in the extension. Quite a nice gig.

Yeah, he's in a better place to succeed, but I think White is their second most important player? Fine by me if they want to use up a disproportionate amount of the cap to Jrue and Brown.

[emunney]

One thing about Jrue Holiday.

He has it so much easier now than he had it in Milwaukee. He doesn't have to bring the ball up and set up the offense. And he is literally the fifth option on offense in Boston.

His job now is to guard the other team's best player, but the Celtics switch a lot, so he doesn't even do that for much of the game.
I'm surprised he got what he did in the extension. Quite a nice gig.

Yeah, he's in a better place to succeed, but I think White is their second most important player? Fine by me if they want to use up a disproportionate amount of the cap to Jrue and Brown.

Yeah, they're probably not going to like this after next season when teams start floating max offers toward White's agent while Tatum's a UFA.

[msiris]

Just like Mids Jrue was just not true number 2.

[BUCKnation]

One thing about Jrue Holiday.

He has it so much easier now than he had it in Milwaukee. He doesn't have to bring the ball up and set up the offense. And he is literally the fifth option on offense in Boston.

His job now is to guard the other team's best player, but the Celtics switch a lot, so he doesn't even do that for much of the game.
I'm surprised he got what he did in the extension. Quite a nice gig.

Yeah, I saw reports that negotiations went quickly. Like yeah, no s*** they did from his side. He's scored over 20 pts 4 times this season and his highest scoring game post ASG is 16. Getting 35M a year to do that seems nice.

[pifhluk23]

6 years of Bledsoe and Jrue shooting average under 40% fg and under 30% 3p in the playoffs and the year we finally get a pg we may not even see him and Giannis together.

Why wouldn't we see them together?

Even a grade 1 strain should sit Giannis for the first round. And if he supermans it comes back for round 1 there is a high risk of re-injury. I don't think we get past anyone in round 1 without him.

[pifhluk23]

One thing about Jrue Holiday.

He has it so much easier now than he had it in Milwaukee. He doesn't have to bring the ball up and set up the offense. And he is literally the fifth option on offense in Boston.

His job now is to guard the other team's best player, but the Celtics switch a lot, so he doesn't even do that for much of the game.
I'm surprised he got what he did in the extension. Quite a nice gig.

True but he was wide open at the 3 point line for us in the playoffs and bricked... The beauty of the Celtics though is that they don't even have to play him.

[ShootingtheJ]

6 years of Bledsoe and Jrue shooting average under 40% fg and under 30% 3p in the playoffs and the year we finally get a pg we may not even see him and Giannis together.

Why wouldn't we see them together?

Even a grade 1 strain should sit Giannis for the first round. And if he supermans it comes back for round 1 there is a high risk of re-injury. I don't think we get past anyone in round 1 without him.

No it shouldn't, there's no science behind what you're saying. Dame had the same injury last year and returned 9 days later, during the regular, and was awesome upon return.

[chonestown]

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[CharityStripe34]

Why wouldn't we see them together?

Even a grade 1 strain should sit Giannis for the first round. And if he supermans it comes back for round 1 there is a high risk of re-injury. I don't think we get past anyone in round 1 without him.

No it shouldn't, there's no science behind what you're saying. Dame had the same injury last year and returned 9 days later, during the regular, and was awesome upon return.

Knowing Freak I'm sure after sitting for, like, two games he'd want to come back. I'm just guessing but I feel he'll be good to go by Round 1. That would be nearly 2 weeks out. Depending on the matchup I suppose that the Bucks could, theoretically, sit him for the first game of round one.

[Ron Swanson]

I have zero worry that he's gonna miss any 1st round games. The worry is expecting him to hold up for an entire, grueling East Finals run and whomever (probably Denver) they face in the Finals if they get that far. It's one thing for a 3-years younger version of Giannis to grit through 6-games like he did in the 2021 Finals, but asking him to do that for 16-20 playoff games is an entirely different mountain to climb. That's why it's **** stupid that they played him so much the past month fully knowing he was dealing with the Achilles/calf pain.

[Daver]

Pretty simple these last 2 games but have tiebreaker on knicks so knicks have to win out n bucks have to lose both seems pretty simple seeing no giannis no dame tonight.Does this board want bucks in 3 spot

[pifhluk23]

Pretty simple these last 2 games but have tiebreaker on knicks so knicks have to win out n bucks have to lose both seems pretty simple seeing no giannis no dame tonight.Does this board want bucks in 3 spot

I wanted us in the 4 spot and said we should have been sitting Giannis every game the past few weeks and have Dame play every other. We'd be sitting so pretty at #4 with a healthy and rested Giannis and Dame and the ability to control our own seeding destiny.

As for right now, we're going to lose tonight and Pacers play Cavs and Magic play 76ers so should have a lot more clarity tomorrow.