Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas

[Frank Nova]

If we did something like Pat + ‘26 swap for Isaiah Joe, and then let Trent go, who would you target with the MLE?

Santi Aldama

Sure, but he's a RFA, and if Memphis matched, everyone else would already be signed, and we'd be left with no one.

Free agency is gonna be terrible this year, we’re after 2nd and 3rd rate guys. If we struck out on Aldama in the 1st week, I’m positive that dudes we are already linked to will still be looking for a deal in the meantime. Who are you worried about missing out on in the 1st 48-72hrs of free agency? Our best bet is scooping up someone that strikes out early anyway, similar to Gary Trent Jr last year. We need to wait it out unless there’s someone out there we have to get off the market and I’m not really seeing that anywhere besides Aldama that’s realistic.

If we can sort out the roster with a Pat trade and replace Trent there, I’d gladly give Aldama the Steven Adams contract and hope for the best. I’d be pretty confident Memphis would turn their attention elsewhere.

[EasyE31]

Santi Aldama

Sure, but he's a RFA, and if Memphis matched, everyone else would already be signed, and we'd be left with no one.

Free agency is gonna be terrible this year, we’re after 2nd and 3rd rate guys. If we struck out on Aldama in the 1st week, I’m positive that dudes we are already linked to will still be looking for a deal in the meantime. Who are you worried about missing out on in the 1st 48-72hrs of free agency? Our best bet is scooping up someone that strikes out early anyway, similar to Gary Trent Jr last year. We need to wait it out unless there’s someone out there we have to get off the market and I’m not really seeing that anywhere besides Aldama that’s realistic.

If we can sort out the roster with a Pat trade and replace Trent there, I’d gladly give Aldama the Steven Adams contract and hope for the best. I’d be pretty confident Memphis would turn their attention elsewhere.

Especially now that they got off Bane's salary I think you'd have to go well beyond the MLE for Memphis not to match.

[jschligs]

I was going to say I don't really hate his summary. Although I'd like GTJ, I could easily see him getting a better contract elsewhere. And I am tempted to keep that 31 1st to use either later in the season or before next year. Bring on the gap year. We'll probably be in that 6-10 see range and then we will likely keep our 1st next year as NOP should be worse so they won't swap, and next years class is looking deeper.

[rayallenscalves]

I'm all aboard the gap year concept with the goal of having Giannis average a triple double and giving young guys all the minutes they can handle, with the hope it pays off in the long run. Something like:

-Re-sign KPJ and Rollins on value contracts with the promise that they'll get all the PG minutes until Dame returns. Great opportunity for both of them to build their value. I have no interest in a retread PG.
-Re-sign Trent (use MLE) and sell him on the idea that he'll continue to get all kinds of open looks playing off Giannis.
-Extend AJ Green.
-Use trade exception to bring in Kenrich Williams. Good connector piece who could start at SF.
-Extend Bobby at roughly the same dollar amount.
-S&T Brook for whatever you can get.
-Re-sign Sims at the minimum.
-Sign someone like Bassey as big depth.
-Trade '31 1st for a mid-1st rounder and some more. I'm partial to Coward.

KPG/Rollins/Dame
Trent/Green/Conny
Williams/Coward/Kuz
Giannis/Kuz/Smith
Bobby/Sims/Bassey

[Bernman]

I was going to say I don't really hate his summary. Although I'd like GTJ, I could easily see him getting a better contract elsewhere. And I am tempted to keep that 31 1st to use either later in the season or before next year. Bring on the gap year. We'll probably be in that 6-10 see range and then we will likely keep our 1st next year as NOP should be worse so they won't swap, and next years class is looking deeper.

Much of it is indefensible. Like he didn't even know we had the '31 1st to trade, let alone explore ways it could be used to make us better now. He doesn't need to advocate for it. These breakdowns typically look down multiple avenues.

He doesn't even seriously look at other non tax MLE options that would price us out on Trent. It's like he's intentionally trying to tank us into a clear gap year position out of confirming a bias about the situation or desiring Giannis to leave.

Which plays into ignoring the reporting Giannis is staying from local media or pretty much Giannis himself. It's not 50-50. And Mobley for Giannis is stupid. We have the same problem w/ Giannis, which is lack of supporting cast, only now w/ a guy who's not a huge scorer nor makes others better. I'd do literally anything else - trading for prospects, multiple win now guys, a slew of picks, or keep Giannis & hope he re-signs.

[ReasonablySober]

I was going to say I don't really hate his summary. Although I'd like GTJ, I could easily see him getting a better contract elsewhere. And I am tempted to keep that 31 1st to use either later in the season or before next year. Bring on the gap year. We'll probably be in that 6-10 see range and then we will likely keep our 1st next year as NOP should be worse so they won't swap, and next years class is looking deeper.

Much of it is indefensible. Like he didn't even know we had the '31 1st to trade, let alone explore ways it could be used to make us better now. He doesn't need to advocate for it. These breakdowns typically look down multiple avenues.

He doesn't even seriously look at other non tax MLE options that would price us out on Trent. It's like he's intentionally trying to tank us into a clear gap year position out of confirming a bias about the situation or desiring Giannis to leave.

Which plays into ignoring the reporting Giannis is staying from local media or pretty much Giannis himself. It's not 50-50. And Mobley for Giannis is stupid. We have the same problem w/ Giannis, which is lack of supporting cast, only now w/ a guy who's not a huge scorer nor makes others better. I'd do literally anything else - trading for prospects, multiple win now guys, a slew of picks, or keep Giannis & hope he re-signs.

Does he not know or does he just ignore it because it isn't valuable.

[ShootingtheJ]

Santi Aldama

Sure, but he's a RFA, and if Memphis matched, everyone else would already be signed, and we'd be left with no one.

Free agency is gonna be terrible this year, we’re after 2nd and 3rd rate guys. If we struck out on Aldama in the 1st week, I’m positive that dudes we are already linked to will still be looking for a deal in the meantime. Who are you worried about missing out on in the 1st 48-72hrs of free agency? Our best bet is scooping up someone that strikes out early anyway, similar to Gary Trent Jr last year. We need to wait it out unless there’s someone out there we have to get off the market and I’m not really seeing that anywhere besides Aldama that’s realistic.

If we can sort out the roster with a Pat trade and replace Trent there, I’d gladly give Aldama the Steven Adams contract and hope for the best. I’d be pretty confident Memphis would turn their attention elsewhere.

If we're shopping with the MLE, we'd be after the very best guys. Everyone who gets more than the minimum will be gone in the 1st 36 hours. If Memphis matched out offer to Aldama, we'd have wasted the MLE while losing Trent.

[ShootingtheJ]

I was going to say I don't really hate his summary. Although I'd like GTJ, I could easily see him getting a better contract elsewhere. And I am tempted to keep that 31 1st to use either later in the season or before next year. Bring on the gap year. We'll probably be in that 6-10 see range and then we will likely keep our 1st next year as NOP should be worse so they won't swap, and next years class is looking deeper.

Much of it is indefensible. Like he didn't even know we had the '31 1st to trade, let alone explore ways it could be used to make us better now. He doesn't need to advocate for it. These breakdowns typically look down multiple avenues.

He doesn't even seriously look at other non tax MLE options that would price us out on Trent. It's like he's intentionally trying to tank us into a clear gap year position out of confirming a bias about the situation or desiring Giannis to leave.

Which plays into ignoring the reporting Giannis is staying from local media or pretty much Giannis himself. It's not 50-50. And Mobley for Giannis is stupid. We have the same problem w/ Giannis, which is lack of supporting cast, only now w/ a guy who's not a huge scorer nor makes others better. I'd do literally anything else - trading for prospects, multiple win now guys, a slew of picks, or keep Giannis & hope he re-signs.

Does he not know or does he just ignore it because it isn't valuable.

If he thinks it isn't valuable than he's a moron.

[ReasonablySober]

Much of it is indefensible. Like he didn't even know we had the '31 1st to trade, let alone explore ways it could be used to make us better now. He doesn't need to advocate for it. These breakdowns typically look down multiple avenues.

He doesn't even seriously look at other non tax MLE options that would price us out on Trent. It's like he's intentionally trying to tank us into a clear gap year position out of confirming a bias about the situation or desiring Giannis to leave.

Which plays into ignoring the reporting Giannis is staying from local media or pretty much Giannis himself. It's not 50-50. And Mobley for Giannis is stupid. We have the same problem w/ Giannis, which is lack of supporting cast, only now w/ a guy who's not a huge scorer nor makes others better. I'd do literally anything else - trading for prospects, multiple win now guys, a slew of picks, or keep Giannis & hope he re-signs.

Does he not know or does he just ignore it because it isn't valuable.

If he thinks it isn't valuable than he's a moron.

It's really not.

[ReasonablySober]

There's no such thing as a valuable draft pick six years from now.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

There's no such thing as a valuable draft pick six years from now.

IDK, i would much rather have our pick 6 years down the line than a pic this year or the next couple that you know will in the 20s. It is an appreciating asset the longer you hold it but is also easily movable.

It is extremely unlikely the Bucks will be a top 10 team in 2031, especially if we are trying to "win-now" the next year or so with Giannis.

[jschligs]

I mean it has value, but its a crapshoot on how much value. Could be 1st overall, could be dead last. Nobody will know for years, far too many variables.

[Bernman]

I was going to say I don't really hate his summary. Although I'd like GTJ, I could easily see him getting a better contract elsewhere. And I am tempted to keep that 31 1st to use either later in the season or before next year. Bring on the gap year. We'll probably be in that 6-10 see range and then we will likely keep our 1st next year as NOP should be worse so they won't swap, and next years class is looking deeper.

Much of it is indefensible. Like he didn't even know we had the '31 1st to trade, let alone explore ways it could be used to make us better now. He doesn't need to advocate for it. These breakdowns typically look down multiple avenues.

He doesn't even seriously look at other non tax MLE options that would price us out on Trent. It's like he's intentionally trying to tank us into a clear gap year position out of confirming a bias about the situation or desiring Giannis to leave.

Which plays into ignoring the reporting Giannis is staying from local media or pretty much Giannis himself. It's not 50-50. And Mobley for Giannis is stupid. We have the same problem w/ Giannis, which is lack of supporting cast, only now w/ a guy who's not a huge scorer nor makes others better. I'd do literally anything else - trading for prospects, multiple win now guys, a slew of picks, or keep Giannis & hope he re-signs.

Does he not know or does he just ignore it because it isn't valuable.

He said the Bucks had their '32 1st. No mention of '31. It was just an oversight, like Rollins being an RFA. He mailed this in to talk fake Giannis trades.

[German Athens]

I think the league is torn on the value of distant 1sts, but teams who already have a bunch of firsts over the next couple seasons, may prefer a distant one to give themselves later flexibility for trades (OKC, SAS).

We saw this last year with the spurs when they traded the 8th pick in the draft for Minny’s ‘31 1st and a top 1 protected ‘30 swap. And that’s with a team whose core player was 22 at the time.

Did that mean the value of that ‘31 1st was something like the 11th pick in the draft last year? I’d think so, at least that’s how San Antonio valued it.

Ainge also gave up 3 later picks for one PHX ‘31 1st. We don’t actually know anything about what that ‘31 1st will be, we just think it has a high likelihood of being a high pick. Maybe Phoenix nails some moves and is a very good team again.

[EasyE31]

Matt Moore's latest piece includes a quick bullet that expects Jericho Sims back in Milwaukee next year.

[German Athens]

There was the blurb that Milwaukee wants to retain their core, but i want to know who the org thinks those core players are.

[Bernman]

There was the blurb that Milwaukee wants to retain their core, but i want to know who the org thinks those core players are.

He previously reported Brook's likely on his way out. And the starters changed. So it doesn't include the them by and large, if that's what you're asking. Giannis & more the closing lineup is what I'm thinking.

This is more news about Bobby & maybe a further attempt at bringing back Trent than we've already heard. So Giannis, KPJ, Bobby, Green, Rollins, Sims, & maybe/probably Trent are back. Pat & Dame's back, whether we like it or not. That's already 9 guys.

For the other, 1 thing I agree w/ Vecenie in his breakdown is it makes sense to try and bring Kuz' value back up (they thought it was a good deal previously). This would be the 10th.

The rest of the guys are probably nos or up in the air. This is where Horst can cook in FA, depending upon what he still has to work with after KPJ & Trent (if he does) re-sign. Probably filling a couple more spots, namely Brook's & Prince's. If no Trent, it's a splurge replacement.

[German Athens]

There was the blurb that Milwaukee wants to retain their core, but i want to know who the org thinks those core players are.

He previously reported Brook's likely on his way out. And the starters changed. So it doesn't include the them by and large, if that's what you're asking. Giannis & more the closing lineup is what I'm thinking.

This is more news about Bobby & maybe a further attempt at bringing back Trent than we've already heard. So Giannis, KPJ, Bobby, Green, Rollins, Sims, & maybe/probably Trent are back. Pat & Dame's back, whether we like it or not. That's already 9 guys.

For the other, 1 thing I agree w/ Vecenie in his breakdown is it makes sense to try and bring Kuz' value back up (they thought it was a good deal previously). This would be the 10th.

The rest of the guys are probably nos or up in the air. This is where Horst can cook in FA, depending upon what he still has to work with after KPJ & Trent (if he does) re-sign. Probably filling a couple more spots, namely Brook's & Prince's. If no Trent, it's a splurge replacement.

Yeah, I just hope, ardently, that they view that group in game 5 as our build moving forward, and not just another throw at the wall in a dire situation.

Please tell me they’re thinking, and saw, what most of us did, too.

I think the reporting likely shows that they are bought in to this idea, but I just gotta see it get over the line first before exhaling.

[Bernman]

There was the blurb that Milwaukee wants to retain their core, but i want to know who the org thinks those core players are.

He previously reported Brook's likely on his way out. And the starters changed. So it doesn't include the them by and large, if that's what you're asking. Giannis & more the closing lineup is what I'm thinking.

This is more news about Bobby & maybe a further attempt at bringing back Trent than we've already heard. So Giannis, KPJ, Bobby, Green, Rollins, Sims, & maybe/probably Trent are back. Pat & Dame's back, whether we like it or not. That's already 9 guys.

For the other, 1 thing I agree w/ Vecenie in his breakdown is it makes sense to try and bring Kuz' value back up (they thought it was a good deal previously). This would be the 10th.

The rest of the guys are probably nos or up in the air. This is where Horst can cook in FA, depending upon what he still has to work with after KPJ & Trent (if he does) re-sign. Probably filling a couple more spots, namely Brook's & Prince's. If no Trent, it's a splurge replacement.

Yeah, I just hope, ardently, that they view that group in game 5 as our build moving forward, and not just another throw at the wall in a dire situation.

Please tell me they’re thinking, and saw, what most of us did, too.

I think the reporting likely shows that they are bought in to this idea, but I just gotta see it get over the line first before exhaling.

I suppose they might bring back Prince on the min, which is fine w/ me in a vacuum, it's just the risk is Doc uses them in the reverse way they should be, as has been his tendency. So that's why you got to Doc proof the roster, if he's returning out of a short-sighted interest to keep Giannis happy.

[JonHeist]

prince back on a minimum again would be great, he needs to play 0.00% of his minutes at the 2 tho