Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)?

Zeezprah · Post #1441 » by **Zeezprah** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:22 pm

i love how everyone is suddenly soooo concerned with what's happening in milwaukee. the same people who prollly didn't give a single f if we moved to seattle and made the constant jokes about our franchise.

i'm not some huge kidd fan by any means, i'm just letting this all play out, but i seriously don't care about the outsiders' rustled jimmies over this. not even to mention, it was never supposed to get out like this.

and i love how woj is trying to make this some pity party for drew now. poor guy is gonna walk away with millions to do nothing and the average joe is supposed to act like he was wronged in some way? he'll have plenty of opportunities in life. this timing/procedure affected his future job prospects 0%

DickCunningham · Post #1442 » by **DickCunningham** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:23 pm

This may turn out badly or it may not. It's highly entertaining though. I'm in the camp that it can't get any worst than Drew. Is this the "preferred way" to go about doing things? Nope. Hiring your friends is usually a really bad idea, but you never know. I'm going to give the new owners a pretty long leash after saving the franchise.

Ayt · Post #1443 » by **Ayt** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:23 pm

LedZepp007 wrote:I mean, it's pretty clear that Kidd will take over as GM/coach if L&E like the way things go. I'm still hoping that things fall apart. But, yeah, it would seem as though L&E we're planning on hiring a new coach this whole time. But they've been super cold blooded about it

No. That isn't clear at all.

stillgotgame · Post #1444 » by **stillgotgame** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:24 pm

KidA24 wrote:Cannot believe this is happening this way.

Let's hire a mediocre whiny little bitch to be our head coach, who storms out of his current job because other first time coaches are getting paid more than him.

Let alone all the reports last season about how he didn't do anything as a coach.

Let alone that now, no one will want to GM for the Bucks, because who wants to be the GM when the head coach has more power than you do? (See Karl, George).

All the goodwill from the last 6 weeks just got used up in 48 hours.

Great post!

This is not the way to do this, plain and simple. First, hire a basketball exec. Interview a bunch of coaches. Have a plan. Develop the young talent on this team. Get a new arena. Win a championship in 5 years.

averageposter · Post #1445 » by **averageposter** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:25 pm

I don't think it should come as any surprise to Larry drew after leading his team to the worst record in the league, and the team being sold to new owners that his job was not secure. Whether or not the new owners should tell him about their search or spell out the process is a question I can't answer, but I doubt there is a typical outside of new owners generally means new management. So I guess I don't put any stock in there being anything wrong with that aspect of how this went down. I think Kidd's a better coach right now than Drew, and if that's all we are after at present that's fine with me.

raferfenix · Post #1446 » by **raferfenix** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:25 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/483512670927081472[/tweet]

I don't like how this business is being conducted. Not how the Spurs would do it.

Doesn't seem to make others feel excited to come work with Kidd and play or manage things here.

LedZepp007 · Post #1447 » by **LedZepp007** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:27 pm

Ayt wrote:
LedZepp007 wrote:I mean, it's pretty clear that Kidd will take over as GM/coach if L&E like the way things go. I'm still hoping that things fall apart. But, yeah, it would seem as though L&E we're planning on hiring a new coach this whole time. But they've been super cold blooded about it

No. That isn't clear at all.

Apparently that's what Woj and a number of executives think. It also makes sense based on what we know.

rioeire · Post #1448 » by **rioeire** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:27 pm

We have a young core team. Kidd has had a difficult first rookie season in a team filled with big egos . I think it could be a good oportunity for him as long as there is no "win now" perspective for the next 2 years.
He knows basketball , but that alone doesnt make you a great coach, he needs to learn and the bucks are the perfect place for him right now.

Zeezprah · Post #1449 » by **Zeezprah** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:28 pm

Ayt wrote:
LedZepp007 wrote:I mean, it's 'lpretty clear that Kidd will take over as GM/coach if L&E like the way things go. I'm still hoping that things fall apart. But, yeah, it would seem as though L&E we're planning on hiring a new coach this whole time. But they've been super cold blooded about it

No. That isn't clear at all.

this.

i think kidd will get paid what fisher/kerr got, and he'll be content with that. the main issue was always money. idk why everyone assumes he's taking over as president.

LedZepp007 · Post #1450 » by **LedZepp007** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:28 pm

In his defense he was a pretty good coach the second half of the season

averageposter · Post #1451 » by **averageposter** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:31 pm

I think it took him a while to settle in. I think coaching veteran players was the wrong place to expect early results, having played with most of those guys. A young team would have been better, probably. He did a pretty good job down the stretch, I thought as well.

glenn · Post #1452 » by **glenn** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:32 pm

I like Wojnarowski, but he likes to get on his high horse and this is obviously one of those times. Seriously, in these three tweets there isn’t a single fact. Smear, assumption, smear. If you don’t think Kidd is right for the Bucks, fine. That’s a legitimate argument to make. But this is nonsense.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/483511509792735232[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/483511833748197377[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/483512670927081472[/tweet]

DutchManDanFan · Post #1453 » by **DutchManDanFan** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:33 pm

I think Jason Kidd is not interested in a good record, he wants to win it all. And he doesn't want a GM to spoil his chances with stupid deals. So make him HC and make a promise no deals are made without his approval. That should be enough for now. If after 2 years the development of Giannis and Jabari succeeds very well under Kidd, then he can have his title in the organisation and convince CP3 to come to Milwaukee for the 16/17 season. :meditate:

tski1972 · Post #1454 » by **tski1972** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:33 pm

after all the positive buzz of drafting Jabari, it's a shame all this negative buzz is starting to hover around the team.

head scratching decision for sure.

sidney lanier · Post #1455 » by **sidney lanier** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:34 pm

MetroDrugUnit wrote:My feelings are that we can do better than Kidd and likely without having to give up a draft pick. The flip side is that I like the recent buzz around this organization (New Owners, Drafting Parker, New Coach???, HOBO) These are all positives to the layman and even if they all don't work out I think this puts us in a better spot for public support for arena funding and that should be the real end game right now.

The old saying "there's no such thing as bad publicity" usually doesn't apply to sports franchises. This confusing and as-yet unresolved story, however badly it may end, has splashed Milwaukee Bucks on the front page while at the same time making the organization look a little callous and impetuous.

If a deal doesn't get done, seems like a net positive because of the top-of-mind factor. If we get Kidd as coach, it could be a good thing. If he becomes POBO or GM, we'll all cringe but probably survive.

Everybody here has longed for more interesting times for years. How do we like it so far?

bizarro · Post #1456 » by **bizarro** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:35 pm

LedZepp007 wrote:In his defense he was a pretty good coach the second half of the season

Pretty good? That's an understatement. The Nets were literally embarrassing for the majority of the 1st half of the season. Old. Slow. Ugly ass basketball. They really came together and moving Pierce to the 4 (hint - Jabari!) worked phenomenally in their motion offense. Not to mention: 4-0 against the Heat.

Regardless, I'm amazed at the absolute tizzies being thrown on this board. I understand the biased media - don't rub Brooklyn and Jay-Z the wrong way! How dare you! Russian mobsters! BUT, on this board the reactions are nearly as comedic. Let go of your fantasies gentlemen: The Spurs are the Spurs. These are billionaire hedgefund managers for a penchant of playing high-stakes poker in Russian mob circles. This move is right up their alley...and, frankly, I think you should be entertained by it. We're sticking a middle-finger to the biggest most entitled whiniest **** sports market in the world. I, for one, am pleased. And, honestly, weep for Larry Drew - PLEASE!

Matches Malone · Post #1457 » by **Matches Malone** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:36 pm

tski1972 wrote:after all the positive buzz of drafting Jabari, it's a shame all this negative buzz is starting to hover around the team.

head scratching decision for sure.

It is unfortunate, but I think a lot of these reporters are against it because they don't like Jason Kidd. I mean honestly, these things happen. Paul just pointed out how just last year Atlanta was interviewing Budenholzer while Larry Drew was still under contract. Why is that any different than what is happening now? It's a messy situation, but nothing that hasn't been done before. The media is blowing this out of proportion.

Ayt · Post #1458 » by **Ayt** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:37 pm

raferfenix wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/483512670927081472[/tweet]

I don't like how this business is being conducted. Not how the Spurs would do it.

Doesn't seem to make others feel excited to come work with Kidd and play or manage things here.

Gigantic meh from me on those Woj tweets. The guy is a complete tool if he has found a reason to dislike someone. Show me some tweets from last year when the Hawks kept Drew on while they searched for his replacement.

bizarro · Post #1459 » by **bizarro** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:38 pm

StikWitEM wrote:
tski1972 wrote:after all the positive buzz of drafting Jabari, it's a shame all this negative buzz is starting to hover around the team.

head scratching decision for sure.

It is unfortunate, but I think a lot of these reporters are against it because they don't like Jason Kidd. I mean honestly, these things happen. Paul just pointed out how just last year Atlanta was interviewing Budenholzer while Larry Drew was still under contract. Why is that any different than what is happening now? It's a messy situation, but nothing that hasn't been done before. The media is blowing this out of proportion.

And, one week into the job...wait for it...wait for it: Budenholzer was cited for a DUI in Atlanta. The horrors! The absolute horrors!

Ayt · Post #1460 » by **Ayt** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:38 pm

raferfenix wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/483512670927081472[/tweet]

I don't like how this business is being conducted. Not how the Spurs would do it.

Doesn't seem to make others feel excited to come work with Kidd and play or manage things here.

Ironically, the pariah who took the Atlanta job out from under Drew was from the Spurs.

Do you want the Bucks to hire Jason Kidd as POBO?