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[-Jragon-]

I think Alex is legitimately the worst player who has "made" the NBA in history. He was never even good enough to go low major D-1, so to make the league is incredible

yeah you got it right....and dont believe the guys here that want to convince you that there is "no cost" either. its not a huge cost to not have a bouyea-type and to have an alex but that spot could go to literally like tens of thousands of other dudes growing into their games with some upside. you want to take swings on guys that are like top 1000 on the planet. not guys that are top 100.000 on the planet. if we used this philosophy on the entire roster it would be hilarious how bad we'd be

i mean...i get why tho....it would just be nice if giannis wasnt being a massive dick about it. he already destroyed dames legacy. proved he couldnt win **** on his own. needs serious help fit and otherwise. it would be great if he truly committed and was like....find some dudes that can shoot AND dudes that can play defense AND score off their own isos in the half court AND stay healthy AND play cheap.....find that for me horsty. tell the horst man that his brothers are prime for real estate oppurtunitys and some extra cash merch'ing bucks gear but that their also too much like me and that raises some serious challenges right? horsty you see that right?

Bouyea earned his shot.

Sears looks just as good if not better. As more new guys get drafted/signed after the draft, these Boyea level dudes will be available every year on 2 ways even.

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[emunney]

would you like examples of guys that are producing now in this league out of those spots? whataboutism doesnt interest me in this debate. it cuts both ways. id suggest we try to get better with all roster spots now that giannis is posturing for an exit.

but as it relates today.....alex is a bum. thanasis is done as a bum. how many bums would you suggest we can keep if it means keeping giannis? should it be more? or less bums?...... if giannis is signaling his way out whats the exact number of bums we should keep on the roster?

How many would you be ok with us having on the roster if we win the championship?

5-7 bums easy.. im more just assessing the current situation as it relates to the dynamic in general. its sad and annoying but also extremely practical

Right, same. I think I'd have less tolerance for it if I didn't think we've got a ton of sleepers on this team. Our assessment of this roster is where our actual differences are.

[MVP2110]

Giannis comes in at #11
Myles Turner at #89
AJ Green at #98

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[-Jragon-]

Myles is underrated

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[midranger]

Rollins going to be top 25 by end of year

[AussieBuck]

Pretty damn weird roster with our two best players being bigs and then maybe the next 5 best guys are guards. (I love Bobby but he's kinda ****)

[ShootingtheJ]

So on this page we have Giannis "ruining Dame's legacy" and anguish over Bouyeah being waived.

Oh and the guy who scored 50 on a bum leg to win a championship "can't win anything on his own".

What in the actual ****? Seriously, WTF

would dame describe it any other way? how was dame viewed before he got here and how is he viewed now? giannis clamored for him and then what?

So Dame's legacy was exposed to be the loser he is. That has nothing to do with Giannis, a proven winner at the highest level.

The Bucks won more before Dame, won more without Dame last year, and will continue to win without Dame. Not trading Dame at last years deadline goes down as one of the worst moves in franchise history, in a franchise with a history of terrible moves.

Your Giannis takes are awful, disgusting, and embarrassing.

[blazza18]

The agendas people still have on here are crazy.

[Siefer]

that wasnt my point....tongue in cheek talk....i think signing the antetekoumbros is a no brainer....my point was more to Blazza who goes ballistic everytime we make a contract with his siblings. to me its legal salary cap circumvention. like in a good way. im surprised other teams dont use it like we do.

unrelated but if my brother was giannis id be like big bro....see if horst needs a 53 year old dead eye shooter on the herd.....tell him i dont move all that well but i can still shoot if i get serious about it and tell him the intangibles id bring theyd never regret it...id tell him to just float the idea right?

if horst agreed id save the golden pen and tell the big bro.....can we do this next year too?

It makes me mad and I'm genuinely embarrassed by how everyone treats and reacts to Thanasis but I've mostly ignored everything about it since we decided to bring him back this time round. My preference would be to never see him on the team but I simply don't care about him anymore.

On today's announcement specifically it doesn't really have anything to do with his brothers and more to do with wanting the Bucks to stop doing stuff in fear of Giannis leaving. It's been 13 years we shouldn't have to worry about that stuff anymore.

It's not about him leaving, it's about making his time here better. In hindsight, if there was a player we could have signed that would have un-moped Dame, wouldn't that have been a totally reasonable way to spend a roster spot? If you're trying to win right now, keeping your best players happy is not primarily about getting them to sign the next contract.

I wouldn't have traded his best friend (and our best adult) for blonde Gadzuric!

Oh yeah, and we threw in a rookie. Mad again.

[emunney]

We should try to give Sandfort an Exhibit 10.

[Siefer]

I'm actually bullish on this roster if we put it into a position to succeed. A lot of 2 bigs + 3 guards, playing fast, shooting threes. I think there's a version of this team that's a huge surprise.

[pifhluk23]

I'm actually bullish on this roster if we put it into a position to succeed. A lot of 2 bigs + 3 guards, playing fast, shooting threes. I think there's a version of this team that's a huge surprise.

There is definitely huge upside especially on defense. Hybrid Zone Man is the future of the NBA and 2 bigs who can play D + guards is a great composition for that defense. Offensively we may struggle, all depends on Giannis and KPJ to create offense. Doc throughout his career (despite narratives) has been able to get the most out of role players and fringe starters so I'm fairly confident this team will have a strong regular season. Post Season imo entirely depends on what we can get for Kuzma and health obviously.

[Prez]

I don’t think Bobby is a good fit at all for what we’re trying to do around Giannis this year. I actually think he holds decent trade value and if you add in the 2031 1st you could get someone seriously good, I’d be exploring that whenever it’s possible. Obviously Kuzma trades should always be explored but a Bobby + 31 1st deal could net us a legit starting SF and raise this team’s ceiling considerably.

[emunney]

I don’t think Bobby is a good fit at all for what we’re trying to do around Giannis this year. I actually think he holds decent trade value and if you add in the 2031 1st you could get someone seriously good, I’d be exploring that whenever it’s possible. Obviously Kuzma trades should always be explored but a Bobby + 31 1st deal could net us a legit starting SF and raise this team’s ceiling considerably.

I think Bobby's a great fit. You can count on him as a shooter and a ball mover in lineups with adequate creators, he's going to be active on the glass at both ends, he'll get aggressive on ball screens in a way that can make ball-handlers stutter, and he can make something happen with a short clock if need be. And you can count on him, even if you maybe can't count on his assistant. He's always ready to go. Great teammate (with one obvious exception).

[emunney]

It makes me mad and I'm genuinely embarrassed by how everyone treats and reacts to Thanasis but I've mostly ignored everything about it since we decided to bring him back this time round. My preference would be to never see him on the team but I simply don't care about him anymore.

On today's announcement specifically it doesn't really have anything to do with his brothers and more to do with wanting the Bucks to stop doing stuff in fear of Giannis leaving. It's been 13 years we shouldn't have to worry about that stuff anymore.

It's not about him leaving, it's about making his time here better. In hindsight, if there was a player we could have signed that would have un-moped Dame, wouldn't that have been a totally reasonable way to spend a roster spot? If you're trying to win right now, keeping your best players happy is not primarily about getting them to sign the next contract.

I wouldn't have traded his best friend (and our best adult) for blonde Gadzuric!

Oh yeah, and we threw in a rookie. Mad again.

You know what hurts the most is the lack of respect. That's what hurts the most. Except for the other thing. That hurts the most. But the lack of respect hurts the second most.

Ridiculous.

[Daver]

I'm actually bullish on this roster if we put it into a position to succeed. A lot of 2 bigs + 3 guards, playing fast, shooting threes. I think there's a version of this team that's a huge surprise.

Know this board the majority tbink green is our 2nd coming of larry bird but with his zero ability to do nothing else than launch 3 pointers im just curious if a CA porter trent gisnnis n turner isnt a better starting 5 with greem as 6th man vinnie johnson type

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

I don’t think Bobby is a good fit at all for what we’re trying to do around Giannis this year. I actually think he holds decent trade value and if you add in the 2031 1st you could get someone seriously good, I’d be exploring that whenever it’s possible. Obviously Kuzma trades should always be explored but a Bobby + 31 1st deal could net us a legit starting SF and raise this team’s ceiling considerably.

I agree assuming Giannis plays, but there are 15+ games he is going to miss. I keep him around as a minutes eater until the deadline.

[WallyMeanwell]

Bobby looked cooked to me last year. Good teams move early rather than late. I'd wrap this all up into one:

Bobby/Kuzma
for
Derozan/Murray/Carter

[GoldenAntlers]

I'm actually bullish on this roster if we put it into a position to succeed. A lot of 2 bigs + 3 guards, playing fast, shooting threes. I think there's a version of this team that's a huge surprise.

Know this board the majority tbink green is our 2nd coming of larry bird but with his zero ability to do nothing else than launch 3 pointers im just curious if a CA porter trent gisnnis n turner isnt a better starting 5 with greem as 6th man vinnie johnson type

Any combination of KPJ/Rollins/Cole and Green/Trent works for me, matchup dependent.

Preference; KPJ/Rollins/ and ... Between Green and Trent is really tough for me though.

[-Jragon-]

I didn't want us to re-sign Bobby but facts are we couldn't use that money anyways, so if he brings back someone that fits our run and gun style at the deadline than it's money well spent.

Evidence Bobby doesn't fit:
A. We looked immediately faster and better when Bobby left and Kuz came in
B. We look 10x better defensively when Sims is in and we still get great shots since Sims doesn't shoot.

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