Indiana Pacers Draft Pick Watch Thread

msiris · Post #1461 » by **msiris** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:32 am

Ruzious wrote:
msiris wrote:Like this guy https://behindthebuckpass.com/2020/10/19/milwaukee-bucks-rumors-immanuel-quickley-radar-ahead-2020-nba-draft/

Quickley's pretty much a 1 trick pony with his shooting. If I buy a mid 2nd rounder, I'd rather go for Payton Prichard, Grant Riller, or Nate Hinton.

Well he is a SG.

drone3 · Post #1462 » by **drone3** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 3:08 am

Ruzious wrote:
machu46 wrote:
emunney wrote:Man I really want to trade up for Haliburton.

I'd absolutely love to have him but I don't really see a realistic way to get up as high as I think we'll need to to get him (which I believe is top 5 if not higher).

I have him going 8th. He could possibly slip to 10th at the latest. Even if he did, I don't see a trade up for Milwaukee.

Hawks could easily pick up Haliburton

emunney · Post #1463 » by **emunney** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 3:10 am

drone3 wrote:
Ruzious wrote:
machu46 wrote:
I'd absolutely love to have him but I don't really see a realistic way to get up as high as I think we'll need to to get him (which I believe is top 5 if not higher).

I have him going 8th. He could possibly slip to 10th at the latest. Even if he did, I don't see a trade up for Milwaukee.
Hawks could easily pick up Haliburton

Gun to my head, I think the Warriors should just draft him and keep him.

KJStark23 · Post #1464 » by **KJStark23** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 3:23 am

Watch on YouTube

drone3 · Post #1465 » by **drone3** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 11:00 am

KJStark23 wrote:

Watch on YouTube

Nice analysis, safe pick feels like Flynn, upside pick feels like Maledon

midranger · Post #1466 » by **midranger** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 11:51 am

I appreciate that those guys had a really good grasp on our team needs for fans of another team, but at least the one dude seemed to have WAY outsized expectations of a 24th pick helping to win a championship next year. Basically stated, if they draft for long term potential vs year 1 productivity, Giannis should leave. More realistically, if Giannis is somehow of that mindset, the pick HAS to be traded for immediate vet help.

I’ll chalk it up to draft nerds being draft nerds, but it was a bit odd. Enjoyed the rest of the segment.

Ron Swanson · Post #1467 » by **Ron Swanson** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 2:20 pm

If we're at the point in the draft cycle (happens every year) where we're talking ourselves into guys with fringe NBA athleticism/size like Flynn and Quickly into maybe someday being actual difference-makers, then we're vastly approaching the territory of the pick having much more value as a trade chip. Just my two cents.

Trade up or trade completely out.

emunney · Post #1468 » by **emunney** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:02 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:If we're at the point in the draft cycle (happens every year) where we're talking ourselves into guys with fringe NBA athleticism/size like Flynn and Quickly into maybe someday being actual difference-makers, then we're vastly approaching the territory of the pick having much more value as a trade chip. Just my two cents.

Trade up or trade completely out.

My philosophy is to always go upside in the 1st, although I define upside a little differently than most people do. Have seen a lot of mocks with Maledon available, who I think is an excellent prospect, and almost everybody has Woodard there, which is insane to me, so I'm still provisionally fine with making the pick. We should be able to add a big ball handler (Maledon, Bolmaro) or an interesting wing (Woodard, Bane, also Bolmaro), and those should always be the priorities. Better be something really special about a big or a small guard.

Ron Swanson · Post #1469 » by **Ron Swanson** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:50 pm

Bolmaro personally does nothing for me. Poor shooting touch, good-not-great athleticism for a 2-guard, so-so defensive instincts. Good passing instincts and court vision but he seems just as much the product of highlight videos and the "he's young-ish" quantifier. Ditto with Maledon. I value age when it comes to projected upside but there also has to at least be flashes of some projectable, elite offensive skills, and I don't see it with either guy. Would easily prefer a guy like Woodard's upside even if it's just Jae Crowder level upside.

msiris · Post #1470 » by **msiris** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:59 pm

midranger wrote:I appreciate that those guys had a really good grasp on our team needs for fans of another team, but at least the one dude seemed to have WAY outsized expectations of a 24th pick helping to win a championship next year. Basically stated, if they draft for long term potential vs year 1 productivity, Giannis should leave. More realistically, if Giannis is somehow of that mindset, the pick HAS to be traded for immediate vet help.

I’ll chalk it up to draft nerds being draft nerds, but it was a bit odd. Enjoyed the rest of the segment.

Odds of finding one gem is so low at number 24. Brogdon was a really good pick.
I really like a guy like Desmond Bane who could contribute right away.

LuessiT · Post #1471 » by **LuessiT** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:09 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Bolmaro personally does nothing for me. Poor shooting touch, good-not-great athleticism for a 2-guard, so-so defensive instincts. Good passing instincts and court vision but he seems just as much the product of highlight videos and the "he's young-ish" quantifier. Ditto with Maledon. I value age when it comes to projected upside but there also has to at least be flashes of some projectable, elite offensive skills, and I don't see it with either guy. Would easily prefer a guy like Woodard's upside even if it's just Jae Crowder level upside.

I agree that Maledon has no elite skill, but it's pretty rare for such a young prospect in the late first to be so NBA ready. Also while his jumper has two motions, it's compact, reasonably quick, he's getting good elevation and has decent footwork. It's not an elite skill, but it's definately very promising.

machu46 · Post #1472 » by **machu46** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:46 pm

My stance re: trading the pick remains the same. If we're using it as a trade chip to acquire an upgrade to the starting lineup or at least a very good bench player, that's totally fine with me. If that isn't the case, I'd rather keep the pick; I think it's a guarantee that there will be players available at #24 that I would very much like to add to this roster.

Seems very much a longshot to me, but if Tyrell Terry were to slide to us, he's the obvious pick IMO.

Beyond that, I tend to think one of the PGs may slide to us as I just don't see 8 or 9 PGs being taken in the top 23 like ESPN and The Ringer currently project. If someone like Cole Anthony, Tyrese Maxey, or Kira Lewis slide to us, I'd probably be all over it.

After that, the guys that I would be very excited to add are Robert Woodard, Cassius Winston, Desmond Bane, Precious Achiuwa (though I think he goes earlier) and Xavier Tillman. I'd be less happy but still happy nonetheless to add someone like Yam Madar, Leandro Bolmaro, Theo Maledon, or Ty-Shon Alexander.

Matches Malone · Post #1473 » by **Matches Malone** » Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:54 pm

I’m still holding out hope for Tyrell Terry. I just think the kid is going to be good and would be a great compliment to Giannis. I’d even trade up to get him. But we’ll likely trade the pick away for an okay bench player lol.

Post #1474 » by **ReasonablySober** » Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:05 pm

Read on Twitter

Post #1475 » by **Ruzious** » Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:12 pm

midranger wrote:I appreciate that those guys had a really good grasp on our team needs for fans of another team, but at least the one dude seemed to have WAY outsized expectations of a 24th pick helping to win a championship next year. Basically stated, if they draft for long term potential vs year 1 productivity, Giannis should leave. More realistically, if Giannis is somehow of that mindset, the pick HAS to be traded for immediate vet help.

I’ll chalk it up to draft nerds being draft nerds, but it was a bit odd. Enjoyed the rest of the segment.

I think it's ridiculous to believe that Giannis is looking only at this season and completely ignoring the future. There's got to be a balance.

jakecronus8 · Post #1476 » by **jakecronus8** » Thu Oct 22, 2020 6:13 pm

My board for guys that might be available at 24:
Alex Pokusevski
Theo Maledon
Tyrese Maxey
Saddiq Bey
RJ Hampton
Kira Lewis

My board for guys who will likely be available at 24
Cassius Stanley
Jaden McDaniels
Jay Scrubb
Josh Green
Immanuel Quickley
Leandro Bolmaro
Daniel Oturu
Elijah Hughes

Please avoid
Cole Anthony
Nico Mannion
Tyler Bey
Tre Jones
Zeke Nnaji
Devon Dotson
Cassius Winston
Isaiah Stewart

Roddy B for 3 · 7/1/2019 (I broke a mirror on 7-1-2012)

Milwaukee is on the clock in the "NBA draft" subforum. We'd appreciate input!

Baddy Chuck · Post #1478 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:20 am

Roddy B for 3 wrote:Milwaukee is on the clock in the "NBA draft" subforum. We'd appreciate input!

We trade the pick for LeBron James.

Fotis St · Post #1479 » by **Fotis St** » Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:13 pm

I have been thinking lately to Live Stream the Draft Process ... and many stuff comes to mind maybe Live Stream and have some RealGM guests from here just with audio or even webcam too... I can do it. Not sure how many of you here would be interested...

Fresh_Prince12 · Post #1480 » by **Fresh_Prince12** » Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:26 pm

The homer in me is if Halliburton drops we need to trade up