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[ReasonablySober]

If we do go after Aldama (I would like it), we won't be the only team doing so. But I think Memphis keeps him.

This is essentially the issue with every single potential move I see bandied about here. Every potential target will be targeted by teams with the same amount of money available to them, and the Bucks play in Milwaukee.

[engelmartin]

If we do go after Aldama (I would like it), we won't be the only team doing so. But I think Memphis keeps him.

This is essentially the issue with every single potential move I see bandied about here. Every potential target will be targeted by teams with the same amount of money available to them, and the Bucks play in Milwaukee.

There’s gotta be some draw to playing with Giannis though, especially if you’re a big guy. Who wouldn’t want that guy next to them?

[ShootingtheJ]

There's no such thing as a valuable draft pick six years from now.

IDK, i would much rather have our pick 6 years down the line than a pic this year or the next couple that you know will in the 20s. It is an appreciating asset the longer you hold it but is also easily movable.

It is extremely unlikely the Bucks will be a top 10 team in 2031, especially if we are trying to "win-now" the next year or so with Giannis.

Yup, teams treat picks as currency, and prefer currency with a longer expiration date.

[ShootingtheJ]

If we do go after Aldama (I would like it), we won't be the only team doing so. But I think Memphis keeps him.

This is essentially the issue with every single potential move I see bandied about here. Every potential target will be targeted by teams with the same amount of money available to them, and the Bucks play in Milwaukee.

Memphis wants to sign and trade him, but of course want compensation to do so. No thanks on that part.

[ShootingtheJ]

prince back on a minimum again would be great, he needs to play 0.00% of his minutes at the 2 tho

You can't find the next steal if you don't look. Let Prince walk.

[ReasonablySober]

There's no such thing as a valuable draft pick six years from now.

IDK, i would much rather have our pick 6 years down the line than a pic this year or the next couple that you know will in the 20s. It is an appreciating asset the longer you hold it but is also easily movable.

It is extremely unlikely the Bucks will be a top 10 team in 2031, especially if we are trying to "win-now" the next year or so with Giannis.

Yup, teams treat picks as currency, and prefer currency with a longer expiration date.

What? No. Teams want their picks this year or the next. A bird in hand and all that. Besides, GMs know that the odds of them being around in six years aren’t great. A pick in six years is going to help the next guy.

[JonHeist]

prince back on a minimum again would be great, he needs to play 0.00% of his minutes at the 2 tho

You can't find the next steal if you don't look. Let Prince walk.

we might have 8 roster spots to fill

and I'd happily cut Livingston for Prince (on a min) if we somehow run outta spots

[JonHeist]

IDK, i would much rather have our pick 6 years down the line than a pic this year or the next couple that you know will in the 20s. It is an appreciating asset the longer you hold it but is also easily movable.

It is extremely unlikely the Bucks will be a top 10 team in 2031, especially if we are trying to "win-now" the next year or so with Giannis.

Yup, teams treat picks as currency, and prefer currency with a longer expiration date.

What? No. Teams want their picks this year or the next. A bird in hand and all that. Besides, GMs know that the odds of them being around in six years aren’t great. A pick in six years is going to help the next guy.

recent trades have proven this untrue

most obvious example (which someone else already brought up) was the suns '30 pick last deadline

[ReasonablySober]

Yup, teams treat picks as currency, and prefer currency with a longer expiration date.

What? No. Teams want their picks this year or the next. A bird in hand and all that. Besides, GMs know that the odds of them being around in six years aren’t great. A pick in six years is going to help the next guy.

recent trades have proven this untrue

most obvious example (which someone else already brought up) was the suns '30 pick last deadline

2030 is a pick swap. Do you mean the '31 Suns pick that turned into a bunch of junk first rounders?

[JonHeist]

What? No. Teams want their picks this year or the next. A bird in hand and all that. Besides, GMs know that the odds of them being around in six years aren’t great. A pick in six years is going to help the next guy.

recent trades have proven this untrue

most obvious example (which someone else already brought up) was the suns '30 pick last deadline

2030 is a pick swap. Do you mean the '31 Suns pick that turned into a bunch of junk first rounders?

3 "junk first rounders" (0, 2, 4 years from now) is still good value for what could also end up being a "junk first rounder" 6 years from now

[ReasonablySober]

recent trades have proven this untrue

most obvious example (which someone else already brought up) was the suns '30 pick last deadline

2030 is a pick swap. Do you mean the '31 Suns pick that turned into a bunch of junk first rounders?

3 "junk first rounders" (0, 2, 4 years from now) is still good value for what could also end up being a "junk first rounder" 6 years from now

Regardless of whether you think those are junk first rounders or not, it's still an outlier deal. How many other trades happen where primary (only?) asset is a draft pick six years down the road?

[BigO]

Prince is the definition of someone you can always find. Not interested in the least in re-signing him. Stand still shooter who can't defend and can't rebound.

Can we just find a guy who can dribble, shoot, rebound, pass and has a decent BBIQ? I don't care how athletic they are.

We've tried the Marjon, AJJ and Kuzma types.

[JonHeist]

Prince is the definition of someone you can always find. Not interested in the least in re-signing him. Stand still shooter who can't defend and can't rebound.

Can we just find a guy who can dribble, shoot, rebound, pass and has a decent BBIQ? I don't care how athletic they are.

We've tried the Marjon, AJJ and Kuzma types.

for a minimum? nope!

with pick 47? probably not.

[jakecronus8]

There’s worse end of the bench guys than Prince but the problem is the dumb f*ck whose calling the shots will play him as a top 7 rotation guy. Need to remove all temptation from the dinosaur.

Go all fliers in my opinion. Gap year. We don’t have our pick. See if you can find some diamonds in the rough rather than trying to claw for those extra wins to get you from an 8 seed to a 6 seed.

[German Athens]

What about Ty Jerome with the MLE?

[ShootingtheJ]

What about Ty Jerome with the MLE?

He cost himself so much money with that dreadful series he had against the Pacers. However, with the Garland injury, the Cavs will pay him. He's had a great regular season.

[ShootingtheJ]

Prince is the definition of someone you can always find. Not interested in the least in re-signing him. Stand still shooter who can't defend and can't rebound.

Can we just find a guy who can dribble, shoot, rebound, pass and has a decent BBIQ? I don't care how athletic they are.

We've tried the Marjon, AJJ and Kuzma types.

What about defend? Tough to find defenders that are bad athletes. Joe Ingles was no help. Average athletes? Sure.

[ShootingtheJ]

2030 is a pick swap. Do you mean the '31 Suns pick that turned into a bunch of junk first rounders?

3 "junk first rounders" (0, 2, 4 years from now) is still good value for what could also end up being a "junk first rounder" 6 years from now

Regardless of whether you think those are junk first rounders or not, it's still an outlier deal. How many other trades happen where primary (only?) asset is a draft pick six years down the road?

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[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

2030 is a pick swap. Do you mean the '31 Suns pick that turned into a bunch of junk first rounders?

3 "junk first rounders" (0, 2, 4 years from now) is still good value for what could also end up being a "junk first rounder" 6 years from now

Regardless of whether you think those are junk first rounders or not, it's still an outlier deal. How many other trades happen where primary (only?) asset is a draft pick six years down the road?

No one is saying it's going to net us a star, but your original comment made you pooh poohed any idea that an unprotected first could be valuable. I get "valuable" is relative, but there are a lot of GMs betting the Bucks are going to suck ass in six years. Even if they never plan on keeping the pick and at the bare minimum, it is still something thing they have to throw in trades the next two years as just 'a future first". On the other hand, if Giannis gets injured, declines or asks or in the next 1-3 years that pick will be one the more valuable trade assets outside of a bottom five team (and those teams don't usually trade their pick as they are rebuilding)

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/ranking-all-68-traded-future-nba-first-round-picks-suns-face-surprising-rival-for-dubious-honor-of-no-1/

Here's one man opinion, but written last year he has the bucks 2030 (at the time six years away) first as the 7th most valuable pick out of the 65 that have been traded.