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Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)?

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Do you want the Bucks to hire Jason Kidd as POBO?

Yes, I want them to hire Jason Kidd to run the organization
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No, I do not want them to hire Jason Kidd to run the organization
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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)? 

Post#1481 » by Ayt » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:51 pm

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LedZepp007 wrote:@GreggDoyelCBS: Jason Kidd fiasco suggests the Bucks' new billionaire owner is another James Dolan. Column - http://t.co/92nzNVmXWB

That is a horrible piece and you should probably not take it seriously.


This was his previous article.

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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)? 

Post#1482 » by glenn » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:51 pm

bigkurty wrote:
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Going aggressively after the guy they covet?


Not hiring a gm to make that decision

Here is a dirty little secret, no high level manager at my company gets hired without an owners approval. Why people think they have to hire a pobo who hires a gm who then hires a coach and why people think no higher level manager would have any input on what happens a layer or two below them does not understand how the real world works. Sorry guys, that **** happens in just about every well run organization. Mark Zuckerberg might have a COO who is in charge of a VP of mobile, a VP of advertising, etc. Do some of you guys honestly think Zuckerberg is not going to have any input over the guy who heads up mobile if he puts a COO in the middle? If you own a company and believe in someone's talent, 9 times out of 10, you make sure they get hired.

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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)? 

Post#1483 » by bizarro » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:52 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:I think most people are simply bothered by the way this was done. For the longest time we wanted to see basketball people making the basketball decisions. Instead we have an owner hiring a guy because he used to be the his financial advisor. That's why people are upset.

This shouldn't have been a difficult process.

Owner hires a POBO -> POBO hires a GM -> GM hires a head coach -> Head coach rounds out his staff.

That's how I think this should have gone because that's what I'm accustomed to seeing.


FIFY :D Is this inaccurate?
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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)? 

Post#1484 » by rioeire » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:52 pm

Lasry is the owner, he likes Kidd, he wants him to be the new coach and maybe in the future the manager. Whats the problem, time will tell if he is right or wrong.


One of those guys. The kind who thinks he's smarter than everyone else. And with guys like Lasry, that's an occupational hazard because he often is smarter than everyone else. He didn't inherit his riches. His parents immigrated from Morocco to America when he was 7. His mom was a school teacher. His dad was a computer programmer. They worked two jobs, helped Marc get into college and law school, and he took care of the rest. He worked his way up corporate America until he was a hedge-fund manager, and today he's a billionaire.


Judging somebodys life for trying to hire a coach, man this is so wrong........ :o

I mean Mr Doyel if you dont like was going on with Kidd, Drew and the bucks it is perfectly understandable. But this is an overeaction. "he didnt inherit his riches" wtf?

maybe there is also this kind of columnist who thinks is smarter than anybody else, just saying
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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)? 

Post#1485 » by Newz » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:53 pm

LedZepp007 wrote:@GreggDoyelCBS: Jason Kidd fiasco suggests the Bucks' new billionaire owner is another James Dolan. Column - http://t.co/92nzNVmXWB


This article is unbelievably bad.

I especially like how he compares him to Jerry Jones and the Memphis owner. While Jerry Jones sucks now, he owned the Cowboys when they won three in a row. Memphis has built a consistent 50+ game winner. I'll take either of those things for this franchise.

I also think it's hilarious that he uses the quote of telling people what you are going to do and then honoring what you said. He did tell people what he was going to do... he said we are going to rebuild and we are. Obviously he isn't going to lay every single thing out on the table that we are going to do along the way.
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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)? 

Post#1486 » by SkilesTheLimit » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:54 pm

The problem I have is this is set up to not end well.

Ownership hiring their hand-picked HC while maintaining the current GM/asst GM is set up to have Kidd circumvent Hammond/Morway when they don't see eye to eye. If you're Lasry, whose side will you take? It's obvious.

And it leaves you with only one option when that relationship goes inevitably south. Kidd has total control over everything. You'll never get a reputable President/GM to take the job with Kidd always looking over your shoulder as the owner's pet.
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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)? 

Post#1487 » by EastSideBucksFan » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:55 pm

FWIW

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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)? 

Post#1488 » by tydett » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:55 pm

Doyel is a notorious assclown who often makes Gery seem impartial. He uses sensationalism and extremisms like Skip Baseless which often backfire. Baseless is probably doing it as a persona, whereas Doyel legitimately believes his own ****.

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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)? 

Post#1489 » by LedZepp007 » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:55 pm

I can't believe people are getting behind Jason kidd
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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)? 

Post#1490 » by LittleRooster » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:56 pm

EastSideBucksFan wrote:FWIW

Someone on twitter is telling me that BuckPack is no longer an insider.


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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)? 

Post#1491 » by Ayt » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:56 pm

Newz wrote:
LedZepp007 wrote:@GreggDoyelCBS: Jason Kidd fiasco suggests the Bucks' new billionaire owner is another James Dolan. Column - http://t.co/92nzNVmXWB


This article is unbelievably bad.

I especially like how he compares him to Jerry Jones and the Memphis owner. While Jerry Jones sucks now, he owned the Cowboys when they won three in a row. Memphis has built a consistent 50+ game winner. I'll take either of those things for this franchise.

I also think it's hilarious that he uses the quote of telling people what you are going to do and then honoring what you said. He did tell people what he was going to do... he said we are going to rebuild and we are. Obviously he isn't going to lay every single thing out on the table that we are going to do along the way.


How many owners "meddle" more than Cuban? The Mavs have been extremely successful under him and he has his hands in everything.
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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)? 

Post#1492 » by vegaspacker » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:56 pm

I am ready for the announcement, when is the deadline. I heard 24 hours was the table number, anyone have insight?

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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)? 

Post#1493 » by Zeezprah » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:56 pm

these holier-than-thou reporters taking personal shots when it benefits them.. i'm shocked
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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)? 

Post#1494 » by Matches Malone » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:56 pm

EastSideBucksFan wrote:FWIW

Someone on twitter is telling me that BuckPack is no longer an insider.


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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)? 

Post#1495 » by glenn » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:58 pm

LedZepp007 wrote:I can't believe people are getting behind Jason kidd

Why? Because as a coach I think he has potential. As POBO he would be unexperienced and I would worry. As a human being, god do I not care. If I cared about the personal lives of atheletes I wouldn't be able to watch sports.
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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)? 

Post#1496 » by MickeyDavis » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:58 pm

Like many of us I'm not thrilled with this whole Kidd thing but I'll also give the new owners the benefit of the doubt. The bottom line is results and it's going to take awhile to judge any/every move they make.
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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)? 

Post#1497 » by PkrsBcksGphsMqt » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:58 pm

SkilesTheLimit wrote:The problem I have is this is set up to not end well.

Ownership hiring their hand-picked HC while maintaining the current GM/asst GM is set up to have Kidd circumvent Hammond/Morway when they don't see eye to eye. If you're Lasry, whose side will you take? It's obvious.

And it leaves you with only one option when that relationship goes inevitably south. Kidd has total control over everything. You'll never get a reputable President/GM to take the job with Kidd always looking over your shoulder as the owner's pet.


What about Edens? I don't think he has as close of a relationship with Kidd. He essentially is 51% owner for the next 5 years too, since he is able to overrule Lasry. That could help minimize Kidd going to Lasry anytime he has a dispute with the front office.
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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)? 

Post#1498 » by emunney » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:59 pm

Yeah, I don't understand the national sympathy for Drew. If he coached in Brooklyn and they won 15 games, what would the story be if they didn't fire him? We weren't set up like Philly where we were declared tankers from day one. We were trying to compete and failed so badly we had to change courses midseason. It was only because we had just hired him that he lasted the year.

On the other end of the story, seems pretty clear that Prokhorov and Co. are pulling out the stops to make Kidd look as bad as possible. Maybe the straight story still makes Kidd look pretty bad. It has in the past. I guess if there are shady business dealings going on, though, Prokhorov would be one of the world's preeminent experts.
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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)? 

Post#1499 » by PkrsBcksGphsMqt » Mon Jun 30, 2014 2:00 pm

EastSideBucksFan wrote:FWIW

Someone on twitter is telling me that BuckPack is no longer an insider.


****. Hope he still posts here, even if he is no longer an insider.
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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)? 

Post#1500 » by rioeire » Mon Jun 30, 2014 2:00 pm

LedZepp007 wrote:I can't believe people are getting behind Jason kidd


I am not getting behind Kidd, but that column is pure garbage. I may like or not Kidd as a coach, but it is not my decision to make. I will judge when I have something to judge. Untill them it is just a prejudice

I get the point that some people dont like this hiring or at least the way they are dealing with it.
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