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Re: ATL - Murray with Torn ACL 

Post#1481 » by HurricaneKid » Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:49 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:NBA already gifts too many mediocre teams with playoff spots as is. The play-in game is one of the few good things Silver has done as of recently.
The NBA is perplexed by the massive ratings drops in recent years despite the fact that they have all but appointed the grueling 82 game season (72 this year) a pre-season. Nationally televised game without another league playing, sounds like a perfect time to rest star players, after all it's just a RS game and doesnt matter! Allowing a 10 seed a shot at the title is just the final straw. They have been heading down this path for a while.

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Post#1482 » by HurricaneKid » Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:51 pm

jschligs wrote:I don’t understand how your social media person (and creative who made it) doesn’t realize that mistake. They shouldn’t be in that position IMO as harsh as it sounds.
Worst defensive team in the history of the franchise and you toss it up as if it's a point of pride? Of course they shouldn't have that job. That's what you get when you bring in people outside of basketball to market basketball. Turns out they dont know why we love the game. Who woulda thunk?

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Post#1483 » by Matches Malone » Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:52 pm

KD got the twitter fingers going.

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Post#1484 » by emunney » Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:11 pm

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Post#1485 » by jschligs » Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:24 pm

I. Cannot. Stand. KD.

Love his basketball game. Can't stand him as a person from the way he carries himself.
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Post#1486 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:35 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:NBA already gifts too many mediocre teams with playoff spots as is. The play-in game is one of the few good things Silver has done as of recently.


I don't understand your point. The playin tournament allows for the chance that even more bad teams to get in to the regular playoffs.
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Post#1487 » by Ron Swanson » Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:49 pm

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Ron Swanson wrote:NBA already gifts too many mediocre teams with playoff spots as is. The play-in game is one of the few good things Silver has done as of recently.


I don't understand your point. The playin tournament allows for the chance that even more bad teams to get in to the regular playoffs.


Brings some excitement to the annual bore fest that is the final week of the regular season. Just like in NCAA with 16-seeds, the 8th seeds are just sacrificial lambs anyways. Why not spice it up a little bit? The play-in wildcard has also been a big success in baseball.

Can't stand Cuban's/Luka's complaints either. Don't wanna do the play-in? Cool, win more than 45-ish games and you don't have to worry about it.
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Post#1488 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:58 pm

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Ron Swanson wrote:NBA already gifts too many mediocre teams with playoff spots as is. The play-in game is one of the few good things Silver has done as of recently.


I don't understand your point. The playin tournament allows for the chance that even more bad teams to get in to the regular playoffs.


Brings some excitement to the annual bore fest that is the final week of the regular season. Just like in NCAA with 16-seeds, the 8th seeds are just sacrificial lambs anyways. Why not spice it up a little bit? The play-in wildcard has also been a big success in baseball.

Can't stand Cuban's/Luka's complaints either. Don't wanna do the play-in? Cool, win more than 45-ish games and you don't have to worry about it.


Yea, but in Baseball the wildcard teams frequently enough make the World Series. Like you said, the 7th and 8th seeds in the NBA are just cannon-fodder for the rest of the conference.

But if that's what fans want to see, whatever, give it to them I guess.
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Post#1489 » by emunney » Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:05 pm

jschligs wrote:I. Cannot. Stand. KD.

Love his basketball game. Can't stand him as a person from the way he carries himself.


He's not wrong but I don't understand why he wastes his time with this stuff!

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Post#1490 » by WeekapaugGroove » Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:07 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:
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Ron Swanson wrote:NBA already gifts too many mediocre teams with playoff spots as is. The play-in game is one of the few good things Silver has done as of recently.


I don't understand your point. The playin tournament allows for the chance that even more bad teams to get in to the regular playoffs.


Brings some excitement to the annual bore fest that is the final week of the regular season. Just like in NCAA with 16-seeds, the 8th seeds are just sacrificial lambs anyways. Why not spice it up a little bit? The play-in wildcard has also been a big success in baseball.

Can't stand Cuban's/Luka's complaints either. Don't wanna do the play-in? Cool, win more than 45-ish games and you don't have to worry about it.
This is pretty much how I feel about it. Doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things and could add a couple exciting games in a boring part of the schedule.

I'd add it probably slightly increases the chance of a competitive first round series because we could have some team that's snake bit from injuries early in the year and finishes 9 or 10 then gets healthy and makes a run.

But my original point of not feeling bad for the 7/8 seeds remains because they haven't earned the right to be pissed about this.

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Post#1491 » by packer396 » Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:25 pm

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Ron Swanson wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
I don't understand your point. The playin tournament allows for the chance that even more bad teams to get in to the regular playoffs.


Brings some excitement to the annual bore fest that is the final week of the regular season. Just like in NCAA with 16-seeds, the 8th seeds are just sacrificial lambs anyways. Why not spice it up a little bit? The play-in wildcard has also been a big success in baseball.

Can't stand Cuban's/Luka's complaints either. Don't wanna do the play-in? Cool, win more than 45-ish games and you don't have to worry about it.


Yea, but in Baseball the wildcard teams frequently enough make the World Series. Like you said, the 7th and 8th seeds in the NBA are just cannon-fodder for the rest of the conference.

But if that's what fans want to see, whatever, give it to them I guess.


Clearly this will never happen (because $$$), but I would love to see the NBA switch to 6 teams per conference, with 1 and 2 seeds getting byes. Then have 3/6 and 4/5 be best of 5. They could also keep the play-in to be with seeds 5-8 instead of 7-10 if they wanted that revenue.

The NBA is so close to having an amazing product its just a shame they can't give up a bit of revenue to improve the entire season. With the situation as-is, teams don't really care at all about these games and it shows
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Post#1492 » by WeekapaugGroove » Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:37 pm

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Ron Swanson wrote:
Brings some excitement to the annual bore fest that is the final week of the regular season. Just like in NCAA with 16-seeds, the 8th seeds are just sacrificial lambs anyways. Why not spice it up a little bit? The play-in wildcard has also been a big success in baseball.

Can't stand Cuban's/Luka's complaints either. Don't wanna do the play-in? Cool, win more than 45-ish games and you don't have to worry about it.


Yea, but in Baseball the wildcard teams frequently enough make the World Series. Like you said, the 7th and 8th seeds in the NBA are just cannon-fodder for the rest of the conference.

But if that's what fans want to see, whatever, give it to them I guess.


Clearly this will never happen (because $$$), but I would love to see the NBA switch to 6 teams per conference, with 1 and 2 seeds getting byes. Then have 3/6 and 4/5 be best of 5. They could also keep the play-in to be with seeds 5-8 instead of 7-10 if they wanted that revenue.

The NBA is so close to having an amazing product its just a shame they can't give up a bit of revenue to improve the entire season. With the situation as-is, teams don't really care at all about these games and it shows
If the league was willing to give up some profit the move would be to cut down regular season games to like 65. That would improve the quality of play and each game would mean more.

Byes will never happen because it would be too long of a break for those teams.

Less teams making the playoffs would just mean more teams giving up earlier and would lead to even more unwatchable games the second half of the season. This play in does keep some extra teams trying to the end and that's a good thing.

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Post#1493 » by CharityStripe34 » Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:58 pm

The Murray injury really sucks. Denver is one of the few teams I really enjoy watching and wanted to see them reach the Finals in the West.
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Post#1494 » by BuckFan25226 » Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:18 pm

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jschligs wrote:I. Cannot. Stand. KD.

Love his basketball game. Can't stand him as a person from the way he carries himself.


He's not wrong but I don't understand why he wastes his time with this stuff!

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Post#1495 » by Plossum » Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:35 pm

Terrible for Denver. They were a genuine shot this year with Jokic playing the way he is and Murray capably playing that second fiddle. They'll still have a good run but doubt they can take down the Lake show now.
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Post#1496 » by RRyder823 » Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:09 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
packer396 wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
Yea, but in Baseball the wildcard teams frequently enough make the World Series. Like you said, the 7th and 8th seeds in the NBA are just cannon-fodder for the rest of the conference.

But if that's what fans want to see, whatever, give it to them I guess.


Clearly this will never happen (because $$$), but I would love to see the NBA switch to 6 teams per conference, with 1 and 2 seeds getting byes. Then have 3/6 and 4/5 be best of 5. They could also keep the play-in to be with seeds 5-8 instead of 7-10 if they wanted that revenue.

The NBA is so close to having an amazing product its just a shame they can't give up a bit of revenue to improve the entire season. With the situation as-is, teams don't really care at all about these games and it shows
If the league was willing to give up some profit the move would be to cut down regular season games to like 65. That would improve the quality of play and each game would mean more.

Byes will never happen because it would be too long of a break for those teams.


Less teams making the playoffs would just mean more teams giving up earlier and would lead to even more unwatchable games the second half of the season. This play in does keep some extra teams trying to the end and that's a good thing.

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I agree it will never happen but the reasoning is absurd to me. You're looking at about 14ish days off from when a team plays their last rs game to when they play their first po game.

NFL 1st round bye teams do that (sometimes longer for the starters) in a single game elimination style playoffs. No reason it should be prohibitive in a best of 7



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Post#1497 » by Prez » Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:02 am

The Suns are freaking good man, really good. Think they're just one piece away from title level, imagine if they took Haliburton like they should have.
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Post#1498 » by Baddy Chuck » Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:23 am

Batum might be the least "completely washed" guy there's been in a while.
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Post#1499 » by blazza18 » Wed Apr 14, 2021 5:00 am

Wonder how many teams could've pulled off what the Celtics did there with the intentional missed free throw and trapping Lillard in the corner. Was really well executed.
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Post#1500 » by skones » Wed Apr 14, 2021 5:20 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:Batum might be the least "completely washed" guy there's been in a while.


We're two years removed from would not touch Chris Paul with a mile long pole and absolutely done before he dragged an OKC team to the playoffs and made the Phoenix Suns a top team in the West.

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