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Re: ATL - Beal to the Clippers 

Post#1481 » by drew881 » Thu Jul 17, 2025 6:21 am

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yb90 wrote:I liked the Clippers last year and they performed well and I think they are even better this year. The addition of Collins for Powell was a great move especially after they got a "hand shake" deal with Beal. Collins in the Toppin/Capela role is going to add to their offense but I also think he is going to help their defense tremendously.



Collins is a bad defender.

10 rebounds per 36 on his career seems like a good defender to me ;).


Do you have a highlight reel to back up these stats?
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Re: ATL - Beal to the Clippers 

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Re: ATL - Beal to the Clippers 

Post#1483 » by engelmartin » Thu Jul 17, 2025 12:56 pm

I remember I ran into Drew Gooden once at Whole Foods and he was buying a ton of Red Stripe. It was like an hour before a game.
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Re: ATL - Beal to the Clippers 

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Re: ATL - Beal to the Clippers 

Post#1485 » by soxperry » Thu Jul 17, 2025 6:56 pm

Saw a post that Raptors leftover FO may not be high on Ingram as Masai was the driving force behind that deal.

We cant currently take back that much salary, but now that we are in a post Dame and post Khris world, i think i would happily welcome a 6'8 dude who is 27/28 and can put up 23/5/5.

He makes 38, 40 and 42 the next 3 years. Raptors may want to get out from under that...No way he costs more than Siakam did.
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Re: ATL - Beal to the Clippers 

Post#1486 » by skbucks1985 » Thu Jul 17, 2025 7:01 pm

As much as I respect Ty Lue as a coach, the Clippers aren't going to do bupkis next season. They got the healthy Kawhi playoff run and I think expecting that to happen 2 seasons in a row is foolish. Harden proved again that the bigger the stage the smaller he plays. Beal doesn't really give them anything that they don't already have.
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Re: ATL - Beal to the Clippers 

Post#1487 » by soxperry » Thu Jul 17, 2025 7:07 pm

skbucks1985 wrote:As much as I respect Ty Lue as a coach, the Clippers aren't going to do bupkis next season. They got the healthy Kawhi playoff run and I think expecting that to happen 2 seasons in a row is foolish. Harden proved again that the bigger the stage the smaller he plays. Beal doesn't really give them anything that they don't already have.


Its gonna sell tickets though. Their fans on twitter think they are the KD Warriors now with Beal.

A bit of hyperbole on my part, but im not enjoying their friskiness.
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Re: ATL - Beal to the Clippers 

Post#1488 » by Ron Swanson » Thu Jul 17, 2025 7:21 pm

Clippers gave the Nuggets all they could handle in that 1st round series (they literally outscored them) and I'd have Denver as the clear 2nd best team behind OKC out West. I wouldn't love my chances banking on a healthy Kawhi, but they have just as good a chance as any non-OKC squad in that conference to make a Conference Finals run IMO. Despite all the "West is a bloodbath" talk, there was a pretty clear Top-8 last season and I don't see that changing much. The bottom-7 teams are still gonna be Sacramento, San Antonio, Phoenix, Dallas, Portland, Utah, and New Orleans in some kind of order.
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Re: ATL - Beal to the Clippers 

Post#1489 » by skbucks1985 » Thu Jul 17, 2025 8:21 pm

If you gave me the binary choice of what's more likely for the Clippers, missing the playoffs or making the conference finals I'd probably go make the conference finals but it would be really close.
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Re: ATL - Beal to the Clippers 

Post#1490 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Thu Jul 17, 2025 8:25 pm


Can we get a TLDR? It seemed like the author was trying to write the next great American novel ...
"I wonder if he might politely show me the door. We make small talk for a bit. He looks bored.
He does this with new people -- gives little of himself, pretends not to watch while he weighs and measures."

Like come on man....
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Re: ATL - Beal to the Clippers 

Post#1491 » by MrHoneycutt » Thu Jul 17, 2025 8:37 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:

Can we get a TLDR? It seemed like the author was trying to write the next great American novel ...
"I wonder if he might politely show me the door. We make small talk for a bit. He looks bored.
He does this with new people -- gives little of himself, pretends not to watch while he weighs and measures."

Like come on man....


The scribe was definitely guilty on that charge.

tl;dr -- Embiid's people and the 6ers commissioned a puff piece that still manages to paint him as grating and a trial to be around. Has an excuse for everything and blames everyone but himself.

Some of my favorites:

EMBIID IS GETTING COMFORTABLE, stretching his legs. I ask him why some people who adore him have jokingly called him an a--hole.

"I like to troll a lot," he says. "I wouldn't say I'm an a--hole."

He thinks on it for a second, then concedes, "At times, I can be an a--hole."


We stood in the aftermath of a galling media cycle. It started in late October when a Philadelphia Inquirer writer mentioned Embiid's son and his late brother in a column chastising Embiid's lack of professionalism and inability to stay in shape. The column implied there was a gap between Embiid's conduct and his public statements about playing to honor his brother's memory.

"I've done way too much for this city, putting myself at risk," Embiid responded days later. "I've done way too much for this f---ing city to be treated like this."

"I don't care if the NBA wants to fine me $1 million, $2 million, $5 million, $10 million, I would still do it," Embiid says. "If he walked up to me just like he did, I would push him away again."


Embiid told a reporter, "Whoever leaked that is a real piece of s---." He reportedly vowed to find the source.

"I know who leaked it," Embiid tells me during a late-night phone call after the season ends.

"You do?"

"Yeah, but I'm not going to -- the past is the past," Embiid says. "The one thing I'll say is, it's hard being around people that do those sorts of stuff.

"That goes back to the trust thing. Once you cross that -- you can't expect me to be part of a team meeting again. That's just not going to happen."

"The way you're talking, it sounds like this person is still around," I say.

"I don't know," he says.

"Come on, Joel, you know who's on your team right now," I say, laughing.

"Free agency just started," he says. "I don't know what's going on."

"So there's a chance this person may not be around next season," I say.

"No," he says. "There's a chance they're still around."


I ask him in what ways he is responsible for being misunderstood.

"Go through all the media narratives," Embiid says. "I haven't been paying attention. So, I don't know what's happened."

He's kidding, of course. I'm expecting him to smile any second now.

But he doesn't. Instead, he repeats himself, his voice more urgent: "Go through the narratives."

"It's not making excuses. When you're hurt every year and everybody knows it, it's the truth," he says. "Now, do you believe, if he was 100 percent, does he have what it takes to have a chance at winning? I think a lot of people believe that because I've shown it in the regular season when I was healthy."

Now, he's the one leaning forward.

"What if I did this and I was like, 'You know what? I'm just going to chill all season and coast and average 25? Or 20.' And in the playoffs, I go average 30. Would that make me look great? Probably. If I went from averaging 23 to 30 -- a playoff riser. Oh, my God. Joel Jordan. Whatever.


I also highly recommend the sections that talk about his lack of commitment around the rehab process (and the 76ers coddling of his ever-changing needs), how Harden no longer speaks to him (claiming he believes Embiid got him sent out of town, which he denies) and the mysterious part near the end where he talks about the relationship with one of his PTs, who considers Embiid like a son, having withered under strange circumstances.

I think I'm finally glad we took Jabari.
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Re: ATL - Beal to the Clippers 

Post#1492 » by StickeeFingaz » Thu Jul 17, 2025 9:20 pm

Did JRoy want Dame back or not? I don’t remember. I thought he said he wasn’t interested.
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Re: ATL - Beal to the Clippers 

Post#1493 » by Matches Malone » Thu Jul 17, 2025 9:21 pm

StickeeFingaz wrote:Did JRoy want Dame back or not? I don’t remember. I thought he said he wasn’t interested.


Don't think he wanted him but usually what JRoy doesn't want, he gets anyways :lol:
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Re: ATL - Beal to the Clippers 

Post#1494 » by Bernman » Thu Jul 17, 2025 9:21 pm

Enjoy, JRoy. And thanks for the set-off for our cap!
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Re: ATL - Beal to the Clippers 

Post#1495 » by humanrefutation » Thu Jul 17, 2025 9:26 pm

Good for Dame. Blazers will probably try to move him again if he returns to form in a year or so.
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Re: ATL - Beal to the Clippers 

Post#1496 » by MVP2110 » Thu Jul 17, 2025 9:26 pm

Happy for Dame to be able to go home. His heart clearly never left Portland
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Re: ATL - Beal to the Clippers 

Post#1497 » by Ersanity » Thu Jul 17, 2025 9:28 pm

So does Dame only hit our cap for 8 million the next 3 years before it returns to 22 (minus any contract he'd have then) for the last 2 years?

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Re: ATL - Beal to the Clippers 

Post#1498 » by Bucks4005 » Thu Jul 17, 2025 9:29 pm

humanrefutation wrote:Good for Dame. Blazers will probably try to move him again if he returns to form in a year or so.


I saw he has a no trade clause, so doubt they can
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Re: ATL - Beal to the Clippers 

Post#1499 » by Matches Malone » Thu Jul 17, 2025 9:29 pm

Would you guys take on Jrue's new contract if you could get the pick swaps back and can dump Kuzma on them?
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Re: ATL - Beal to the Clippers 

Post#1500 » by MrHoneycutt » Thu Jul 17, 2025 9:30 pm

Wait -- the contract he signed back with Portland offsets the amount we owe him?!

(Apologies if this has been answered ad nauseam, not a cap guru)

Edit: There's an X link in the Bucks transactions thread that seems to answer this -- only after the season, can't be used in-season, not as much as one would hope

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