Bucks Offseason Thread - Trade, news, re-tool discussion

[Matches Malone]

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I think we should strike the iron while it's hot.

Kuminga would be a home run acquisition. I'd be all for that if you can somehow get him cheap or with our spare parts like Portis, Grayson, Pat, etc.

[Baddy Chuck]

There's a world where Kuminga turns into some form of Anunoby. Also a world where he's KJ McDaniels.

[paulpressey25]

There's a world where Kuminga turns into some form of Anunoby. Also a world where he's KJ McDaniels.

I don’t believe he’ll turn into much. Useful 8th man. But I’ll take the flyer if we got Poole and that first also. The combined package gives you some diversification that one guy hits.

[blazza18]

I think we’ve got something decent in AJ and Marjon. Hopefully the new coach can invest a bit more in them than Bud seemed too. Otherwise move on from some of the older guys and bring in some younger unappreciated wings who’ve shown some promise from deep (the gabe vincent, Caleb Martin types). They’re out there, we have just got to snag one or two of them.

Agree with this outside of the AJ bit. He’s a standstill shooter and nothing else.

Actually AJ is an even better shooter out of a PnR, hopefully our new coach will run more offensive sets. We should absolutely sign AJ to a real contract this summer, see if he puts in the work this offseason and moves up the depth chart

Anytime he was asked to shoot after dribbling more than once or when he wasn't wide open he sucked so good luck with that.

[Matches Malone]

There's a world where Kuminga turns into some form of Anunoby. Also a world where he's KJ McDaniels.

I don’t believe he’ll turn into much. Useful 8th man. But I’ll take the flyer if we got Poole and that first also. The combined package gives you some diversification that one guy hits.

Kuminga is still only 20 years old so I'm not quite ready to short-change him as only an 8th man/bench role type. Think he's got a lot of untapped potential, especially offensively, that we will start to see more of if he can get to a place to show it off.

[blazza18]

There's a world where Kuminga turns into some form of Anunoby. Also a world where he's KJ McDaniels.

I don’t believe he’ll turn into much. Useful 8th man. But I’ll take the flyer if we got Poole and that first also. The combined package gives you some diversification that one guy hits.

He was a 20 year old playing a useful role for a playoff team just this season. He's better than and 8th man.

[midranger]

Could Poole just be Dallas Jet Terry?

[Badgerlander]

Agree with this outside of the AJ bit. He’s a standstill shooter and nothing else.

Actually AJ is an even better shooter out of a PnR, hopefully our new coach will run more offensive sets. We should absolutely sign AJ to a real contract this summer, see if he puts in the work this offseason and moves up the depth chart

Anytime he was asked to shoot after dribbling more than once or when he wasn't wide open he sucked so good luck with that.

He was a rookie. He will cost next to nothing. He wasn’t dribbling around a pick because Bud doesn’t like the high PnR. He prefers a side PnR but pretty rarely. Swing offense is less chance of a TO, outside of stand around and watch Giannis ISO.

Idk I’m hoping our next staff is better at developing guys. I’m not expecting Green to turn into Reaves but he did shoot 42%/42%/100% 60% efg & 60% ts. He’s bargain Grayson at worst

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

If some on here think Marjon has a high ceiling, they must think Kumingas are cathedral height

[humanrefutation]

I'd be concerned that Poole would just piss off someone like Giannis rather than collaborate with him.

Middleton, for all of his faults, is the perfect #2 when he's healthy because not only is he capable of getting his own shot but he has a real understanding as to his relationship with Giannis. He knows Giannis is the #1 guy, but Giannis is also willing to defer to him for big shots as needed.

I don't think Poole and Giannis would play well together, frankly. Too much hero ball from Poole and I don't think Giannis would respect him in the same way on the court.

I just don't think they'd mesh together. Poole is destined to be a volume scorer on a bad team, IMO.

[machu46]

I'd be concerned that Poole would just piss off someone like Giannis rather than collaborate with him.

Middleton, for all of his faults, is the perfect #2 when he's healthy because not only is he capable of getting his own shot but he has a real understanding as to his relationship with Giannis. He knows Giannis is the #1 guy, but Giannis is also willing to defer to him for big shots as needed.

I don't think Poole and Giannis would play well together, frankly. Too much hero ball from Poole and I don't think Giannis would respect him in the same way on the court.

I just don't think they'd mesh together. Poole is destined to be a volume scorer on a bad team, IMO.

Even as kind of a proponent of targeting Poole, I could pretty easily see this.

I do think these Swaggy P and Jet Terry comps are really underestimating him though. He averaged like 26/5 on good scoring efficiency in the 45ish games Steph missed the last two years and he had a positive +/- in those games too, which with the way Golden State seemingly falls apart with Steph, is not a small feat. And he’s just 23 years old still (24 in a couple months).


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[midranger]

I'd be concerned that Poole would just piss off someone like Giannis rather than collaborate with him.

Middleton, for all of his faults, is the perfect #2 when he's healthy because not only is he capable of getting his own shot but he has a real understanding as to his relationship with Giannis. He knows Giannis is the #1 guy, but Giannis is also willing to defer to him for big shots as needed.

I don't think Poole and Giannis would play well together, frankly. Too much hero ball from Poole and I don't think Giannis would respect him in the same way on the court.

I just don't think they'd mesh together. Poole is destined to be a volume scorer on a bad team, IMO.

Even as kind of a proponent of targeting Poole, I could pretty easily see this.

I do think these Swaggy P and Jet Terry comps are really underestimating him though. He averaged like 26/5 on good scoring efficiency in the 45ish games Steph missed the last two years and he had a positive +/- in those games too, which with the way Golden State seemingly falls apart with Steph, is not a small feat. And he’s just 23 years old still (24 in a couple months).


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That all maybe be true, but the Warriors probably didn’t win a ton of those games, and a guy like Jet put up numbers (for that era anyway) on bad to middling teams as a #1 before being more appropriately cast in Dallas.

My guess is Poole would do pretty well here as long as the coach had control of the ego.

[raferfenix]

Poole’s bball iq is a significant concern considering how concerning it is with Jrue and Giannis.

However Poole having those caliber of defenders around him would help him a ton. And Giannis on offense would make his job way easier too.

[BroncoBuck]

If we want a young gunner I’m going after Sexton over Poole.

[machu46]

If we want a young gunner I’m going after Sexton over Poole.

I’d happily bring Sexton in too but I think he’s pretty much solely a gunner and hasn’t shown much potential to be more than that. Poole has IMO, granted not consistently.


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[Plossum]

None of these guys are worth giving up on Jrue or Midds imo.

[ejn1214]

Regular season 3pt percentage 2022-2023: 33.6%,
Career 3pt percentage:33.9%
Career Fg Percentage: 43%

Playoff 3pt Percentage: 25.4%
Playoff: FG Percentage: 34.1%

Terrible defender, low iq chucker, disliked by his teammates, below league average 3pt shooter and making over 30 million a year. You would have to ship out Bobby in a deal, cause Poole would most likely get punched in the face 1st week of practice.

[Couch Potato]

I'd be concerned that Poole would just piss off someone like Giannis rather than collaborate with him.

Middleton, for all of his faults, is the perfect #2 when he's healthy because not only is he capable of getting his own shot but he has a real understanding as to his relationship with Giannis. He knows Giannis is the #1 guy, but Giannis is also willing to defer to him for big shots as needed.

I don't think Poole and Giannis would play well together, frankly. Too much hero ball from Poole and I don't think Giannis would respect him in the same way on the court.

I just don't think they'd mesh together. Poole is destined to be a volume scorer on a bad team, IMO.

Middleton is only perfect if he takes a huge pay cut. Which he wont. Him out of shape coming back each season or a random injury and paid well is getting old. I'm game to trade Middleton and Holiday,Bobby,Pat,Allen.

[tedbrogen]

I'd be concerned that Poole would just piss off someone like Giannis rather than collaborate with him.

Middleton, for all of his faults, is the perfect #2 when he's healthy because not only is he capable of getting his own shot but he has a real understanding as to his relationship with Giannis. He knows Giannis is the #1 guy, but Giannis is also willing to defer to him for big shots as needed.

I don't think Poole and Giannis would play well together, frankly. Too much hero ball from Poole and I don't think Giannis would respect him in the same way on the court.

I just don't think they'd mesh together. Poole is destined to be a volume scorer on a bad team, IMO.

Middleton is only perfect if he takes a huge pay cut. Which he wont. Him out of shape coming back each season or a random injury and paid well is getting old. I'm game to trade Middleton and Holiday,Bobby,Pat,Allen.

As long as Giannis is okay with it, I’d move anyone other than him to get younger and more athletic, and for any type of PG that can run an actual offense because Giannis attacking from the top of the key is the stupidest thing ever.

[Couch Potato]

I'd be concerned that Poole would just piss off someone like Giannis rather than collaborate with him.

Middleton, for all of his faults, is the perfect #2 when he's healthy because not only is he capable of getting his own shot but he has a real understanding as to his relationship with Giannis. He knows Giannis is the #1 guy, but Giannis is also willing to defer to him for big shots as needed.

I don't think Poole and Giannis would play well together, frankly. Too much hero ball from Poole and I don't think Giannis would respect him in the same way on the court.

I just don't think they'd mesh together. Poole is destined to be a volume scorer on a bad team, IMO.

Middleton is only perfect if he takes a huge pay cut. Which he wont. Him out of shape coming back each season or a random injury and paid well is getting old. I'm game to trade Middleton and Holiday,Bobby,Pat,Allen.

As long as Giannis is okay with it, I’d move anyone other than him to get younger and more athletic, and for any type of PG that can run an actual offense because Giannis attacking from the top of the key is the stupidest thing ever.

I think Giannis just wants to win. I don't think he put up a fight when we renounced Parker and he walked to the Bulls.