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Re: Around the League - JVG/Rose out at ABC/ESPN 

Post#1521 » by MVP2110 » Fri Jun 30, 2023 4:16 pm

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Re: Around the League - JVG/Rose out at ABC/ESPN 

Post#1522 » by Badgerlander » Fri Jun 30, 2023 4:22 pm

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Badgerlander wrote:Jalen should team up with Dan Le Batard and create their own sports talk universe


I imagine he'll likely join The Ringer unless he has a no compete.


I think Jalen and Jacoby podcast was independent before ESPN brought them on so I’d assume they will keep rolling. TNT could dump Shaq and bring Jalen on board and be better but probably won’t happen.
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Re: Around the League - JVG/Rose out at ABC/ESPN 

Post#1523 » by machu46 » Fri Jun 30, 2023 4:29 pm

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machu46 wrote:
Badgerlander wrote:Jalen should team up with Dan Le Batard and create their own sports talk universe


I imagine he'll likely join The Ringer unless he has a no compete.


I think Jalen and Jacoby podcast was independent before ESPN brought them on so I’d assume they will keep rolling. TNT could dump Shaq and bring Jalen on board and be better but probably won’t happen.


Jalen & Jacoby was Grantland and then after that disbanded, ESPN brought them over to radio. And I believe Jacoby is with The Ringer again in some capacity. Maybe Rose is just ready to be done with all that, but the connections are obviously there.
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Re: Around the League - JVG/Rose out at ABC/ESPN 

Post#1524 » by WeekapaugGroove » Fri Jun 30, 2023 4:30 pm

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paulpressey25 wrote:ESPN's talent is terrible. Bring on the housecleaning.

That draft show last week was horrible, starting with the producers and then on-air talent.


Bill Simmons absolutely crushed their on-air coverage during one of his recent pods. Made the point that they weren't even trying to appeal to actual basketball fans anymore. And he's 100% right. It was just a 4-hour long Hallmark commercial about these kids' families with the occasional, exploitive/intrusive camera zoom-in on their faces whenever they started crying. The whole thing was an incredible amount of cringe.
I didn't catch Simmons pod so maybe he mentioned it here too but Russillo had a good point on his pod that anyone actually watching this is a hardcore basketball junkie so why cater to the normies. They aren't watching anyway.

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Re: Around the League - JVG/Rose out at ABC/ESPN 

Post#1525 » by Badgerlander » Fri Jun 30, 2023 4:47 pm

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machu46 wrote:
I imagine he'll likely join The Ringer unless he has a no compete.


I think Jalen and Jacoby podcast was independent before ESPN brought them on so I’d assume they will keep rolling. TNT could dump Shaq and bring Jalen on board and be better but probably won’t happen.


Jalen & Jacoby was Grantland and then after that disbanded, ESPN brought them over to radio. And I believe Jacoby is with The Ringer again in some capacity. Maybe Rose is just ready to be done with all that, but the connections are obviously there.


I guess all the best sports content is going to end up being podcasts and I hate podcasts. I’m old and irrelevant lol sigh
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Re: Around the League - JVG/Rose out at ABC/ESPN 

Post#1526 » by emunney » Fri Jun 30, 2023 4:56 pm

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Re: Around the League - JVG/Rose out at ABC/ESPN 

Post#1527 » by paulpressey25 » Fri Jun 30, 2023 4:58 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:I didn't catch Simmons pod so maybe he mentioned it here too but Russillo had a good point on his pod that anyone actually watching this is a hardcore basketball junkie so why cater to the normies. They aren't watching anyway.


That was the best point made by any of the non-ESPN talking heads. It's not like all sorts of casual viewers tune in on a Thursday night for this. They aren't drawing audience away from The Masked Singer or something. Anyone watching that show is a hard core NBA fan.

They also discussed how there was zero substantive coverage of anything during the 2nd round. At least bring Andy Katz back or Givony to talk about these guys.
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Re: Around the League - JVG/Rose out at ABC/ESPN 

Post#1528 » by emunney » Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:06 pm

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WeekapaugGroove wrote:I didn't catch Simmons pod so maybe he mentioned it here too but Russillo had a good point on his pod that anyone actually watching this is a hardcore basketball junkie so why cater to the normies. They aren't watching anyway.


That was the best point made by any of the non-ESPN talking heads. It's not like all sorts of casual viewers tune in on a Thursday night for this. They aren't drawing audience away from The Masked Singer or something. Anyone watching that show is a hard core NBA fan.

They also discussed how there was zero substantive coverage of anything during the 2nd round. At least bring Andy Katz back or Givony to talk about these guys.


I didn't watch it at all. Do they still have Fraschilla?
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Re: Around the League - JVG/Rose out at ABC/ESPN 

Post#1529 » by machu46 » Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:08 pm

emunney wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:I didn't catch Simmons pod so maybe he mentioned it here too but Russillo had a good point on his pod that anyone actually watching this is a hardcore basketball junkie so why cater to the normies. They aren't watching anyway.


That was the best point made by any of the non-ESPN talking heads. It's not like all sorts of casual viewers tune in on a Thursday night for this. They aren't drawing audience away from The Masked Singer or something. Anyone watching that show is a hard core NBA fan.

They also discussed how there was zero substantive coverage of anything during the 2nd round. At least bring Andy Katz back or Givony to talk about these guys.


I didn't watch it at all. Do they still have Fraschilla?


I watched and I honestly don't remember him being there. It felt like mostly Woj and Bobby Marks talking about trades and stuff and Jay Bilas/JJ Redick/a WNBA player (I think) breaking down the prospects. One of my favorite moments of the night was when everyone turned and looked at JJ for a breakdown of whoever had just gotten taken and he was like "I don't know what you're looking at me for...I've never seen this guy play."
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Re: Around the League - JVG/Rose out at ABC/ESPN 

Post#1530 » by emunney » Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:14 pm

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paulpressey25 wrote:
That was the best point made by any of the non-ESPN talking heads. It's not like all sorts of casual viewers tune in on a Thursday night for this. They aren't drawing audience away from The Masked Singer or something. Anyone watching that show is a hard core NBA fan.

They also discussed how there was zero substantive coverage of anything during the 2nd round. At least bring Andy Katz back or Givony to talk about these guys.


I didn't watch it at all. Do they still have Fraschilla?


I watched and I honestly don't remember him being there. It felt like mostly Woj and Bobby Marks talking about trades and stuff and Jay Bilas/JJ Redick/a WNBA player (I think) breaking down the prospects. One of my favorite moments of the night was when everyone turned and looked at JJ for a breakdown of whoever had just gotten taken and he was like "I don't know what you're looking at me for...I've never seen this guy play."


They really miss Mike Schmitz, sounds like. Givony knows the guys but is awkward on screen.
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Re: Around the League - JVG/Rose out at ABC/ESPN 

Post#1531 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:25 pm

emunney wrote:
machu46 wrote:
emunney wrote:
I didn't watch it at all. Do they still have Fraschilla?


I watched and I honestly don't remember him being there. It felt like mostly Woj and Bobby Marks talking about trades and stuff and Jay Bilas/JJ Redick/a WNBA player (I think) breaking down the prospects. One of my favorite moments of the night was when everyone turned and looked at JJ for a breakdown of whoever had just gotten taken and he was like "I don't know what you're looking at me for...I've never seen this guy play."


They really miss Mike Schmitz, sounds like. Givony knows the guys but is awkward on screen.

Its not even like you need an expert. There are 50 possible draft picks. Just have like 3 talking heads be assigned 15 guys who they just need memorize 4 quick sentences on each of the guys and act like they've been watching them for years. It shouldn't be that hard.
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Re: Around the League - JVG/Rose out at ABC/ESPN 

Post#1532 » by paulpressey25 » Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:29 pm

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Re: Around the League - JVG/Rose out at ABC/ESPN 

Post#1533 » by Badgerlander » Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:34 pm

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paulpressey25 wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:I didn't catch Simmons pod so maybe he mentioned it here too but Russillo had a good point on his pod that anyone actually watching this is a hardcore basketball junkie so why cater to the normies. They aren't watching anyway.


That was the best point made by any of the non-ESPN talking heads. It's not like all sorts of casual viewers tune in on a Thursday night for this. They aren't drawing audience away from The Masked Singer or something. Anyone watching that show is a hard core NBA fan.

They also discussed how there was zero substantive coverage of anything during the 2nd round. At least bring Andy Katz back or Givony to talk about these guys.


I didn't watch it at all. Do they still have Fraschilla?


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Re: Around the League - JVG/Rose out at ABC/ESPN 

Post#1534 » by machu46 » Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:48 pm

emunney wrote:
machu46 wrote:
emunney wrote:
I didn't watch it at all. Do they still have Fraschilla?


I watched and I honestly don't remember him being there. It felt like mostly Woj and Bobby Marks talking about trades and stuff and Jay Bilas/JJ Redick/a WNBA player (I think) breaking down the prospects. One of my favorite moments of the night was when everyone turned and looked at JJ for a breakdown of whoever had just gotten taken and he was like "I don't know what you're looking at me for...I've never seen this guy play."


They really miss Mike Schmitz, sounds like. Givony knows the guys but is awkward on screen.

Agreed.


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Post#1535 » by mg » Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:51 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:Suzy Kolber out. Is there a master list anywhere?


Suzy Kolber, Max Kellerman, Van Gundy, Jalen Rose, Keyshawn Johnson, Steve Young, Jay Williams.
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Re: Around the League - JVG/Rose out at ABC/ESPN 

Post#1536 » by Ron Swanson » Fri Jun 30, 2023 6:00 pm

Watford is interesting. 6'9, 240 lbs and showed that he could stretch the floor a bit albeit on very limited volume. Once a pretty highly rated recruit that just didn't live up to the hype in college. He could be a potential late-bloomer candidate in the right situation.
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Re: Around the League - JVG/Rose out at ABC/ESPN 

Post#1537 » by jute2003 » Fri Jun 30, 2023 6:04 pm

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emunney wrote:
machu46 wrote:
I watched and I honestly don't remember him being there. It felt like mostly Woj and Bobby Marks talking about trades and stuff and Jay Bilas/JJ Redick/a WNBA player (I think) breaking down the prospects. One of my favorite moments of the night was when everyone turned and looked at JJ for a breakdown of whoever had just gotten taken and he was like "I don't know what you're looking at me for...I've never seen this guy play."


They really miss Mike Schmitz, sounds like. Givony knows the guys but is awkward on screen.

Its not even like you need an expert. There are 50 possible draft picks. Just have like 3 talking heads be assigned 15 guys who they just need memorize 4 quick sentences on each of the guys and act like they've been watching them for years. It shouldn't be that hard.
They wouldn't even need to memorize anything. Have some good scouting notes on the table in front of the supposed on-air talent. There aren't enough potential draftees for anyone to ever slip through


The problem is they don't have actual on air talent.
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Post#1538 » by neiLz » Fri Jun 30, 2023 6:11 pm

Looks like Mckshay is out. He is better than Kiper. They clearing the way to sign Mcafee to like 500 mil to appeal to all the Bro's and then fire guys like rose, JVG, etc who were actually good at their job.
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Re: Around the League - JVG/Rose out at ABC/ESPN 

Post#1539 » by MikeIsGood » Fri Jun 30, 2023 6:13 pm

mg wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:Suzy Kolber out. Is there a master list anywhere?


Suzy Kolber, Max Kellerman, Van Gundy, Jalen Rose, Keyshawn Johnson, Steve Young, Jay Williams.


LaPhonso Ellis and Joon Lee, too.
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Post#1540 » by Badgerlander » Fri Jun 30, 2023 6:14 pm

mg wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:Suzy Kolber out. Is there a master list anywhere?


Suzy Kolber, Max Kellerman, Van Gundy, Jalen Rose, Keyshawn Johnson, Steve Young, Jay Williams.


Vince Carter gone too

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