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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Prunty to Orlando 

Post#1521 » by raferfenix » Sun Jul 6, 2025 2:57 pm

What do we think of Devin Carter?

It’s interesting the Kings were willing to bail on such a recent lottery pick in the Kuminga trade.

Kuzma theoretically could be a backup plan — though Malik Monk was sent out as a salary dump in that scenario too is another consideration.

NBC Sports reports that the Kings’ offer to the Warriors will include Devin Carter, their first round pick in the 2024 NBA Draft, taken number 13 overall.

An injury delayed start to the season saw Carter play only 36 times in his rookie year, scoring his first NBA points in his second ever game, against the Warriors.

Carter was tasked with defending Stephen Curry, and explained his experience in his postgame interview: “Not to let him shoot. That was honestly all I was thinking about. Our gameplan is not to let him catch the ball.”

Monte McNair was the Kings’ general manager who selected Carter, and he has subsequently left the franchise to take up a new role with the LA Clippers.

But after taking Carter, McNair expressed what he liked about him, telling NBC: “For sure the first thing that jumps off the film with Devin is just how hard he plays.

“I think that shows up in the box score and some of the stats. Basketball’s about the ball, and Devin goes and gets the ball. Missed shot, he goes and gets it. Loose ball, he goes and gets it. He takes it from the other team and then he goes and puts it in the other basket.”

Devin Carter’s pre-draft NBA player comparison was Derrick White, as explained in NBA.com’s prospects guide.

“Given his shooting numbers, explosiveness on defense and ability to spark the team out of nowhere, he has drawn comparisons to Derrick White.

“It wouldn’t be surprising if his career follows a similar trajectory, starting as a defensive-minded guard and working his way to becoming an elite two-way player who can start for almost any team in the league.”


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Post#1522 » by raferfenix » Sun Jul 6, 2025 3:11 pm

Ok digging into what’s going on in Sacramento makes me think / hope there could be some serious idiocy we could take advantage of.

The following may be moot but recently at least they were trying to do a sign and trade with Detroit for Schroder so they could save their MLE for Westbrook.

Not sure whether that’d have been mutually exclusive with the Kuminga move but either way the Kings appear open for business.

Monk, the Sixth Man of the Year runner-up in 2023-24, has played the best basketball of his career since joining the Beam Team in 2022. The 27-year-old holds averages of 15.3 points, 3.1 rebounds, and 4.8 assists per game over 214 games with the Kings.

New Sacramento general manager Scott Perry is evaluating each spot on the roster he inherited from former Executive of the Year winner Monte McNair, and there are whispers that Monk is a player Perry is motivated to move as he focuses on other areas of need.

The Kings currently have a surplus of large contracts, with Zach LaVine, Domantas Sabonis, and DeMar DeRozan leading the way. Monk’s modest $18 million salary for 2025-26 makes him more likely to be moved, although his value around the league is surprisingly low at the moment.

Several reports on Monday indicated that Sacramento is also considering signing former MVP Russell Westbrook, and that there is mutual interest between the two parties. By moving Monk in a sign-and-trade, the Kings would be able to ink Westbrook to a deal to fill the void as Sacramento’s backup floor general.


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Post#1523 » by MVP2110 » Sun Jul 6, 2025 3:16 pm

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Post#1524 » by PG Graveyard » Sun Jul 6, 2025 3:17 pm

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Post#1525 » by Daver » Sun Jul 6, 2025 3:18 pm

mattg wrote:LOL at KPJ being a pure point or anything remotely adjacent to that. KPJ is a dumb as a box of rocks, low IQ chucker. That's what he has always been his entire career going back to HS. And that's what he is now still. Us being in a beyond desperate position of having easily the worst guards in the entire NBA (and that's including KPJ) means we have no option but to take a chance on KPJ maybe figuring things out, but let's not get it twisted, there's a reason KPJ is not a coveted player around the NBA even beyond his off the court issues. He's never once in his entire life showed that he can play smart, team focused basketball with the goal of winning games.




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Post#1526 » by MickeyDavis » Sun Jul 6, 2025 3:31 pm

I'm fine letting Ham go. Fans remember a few "Ham Slamwich" dunks from 20+ years ago but as a coach it's not a big loss. And it would hopefully eliminate the temptation to promote him to our HC at some point.
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Post#1527 » by LittleRooster » Sun Jul 6, 2025 3:43 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:I'm fine letting Ham go. Fans remember a few "Ham Slamwich" dunks from 20+ years ago but as a coach it's not a big loss. And it would hopefully eliminate the temptation to promote him to our HC at some point.


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Post#1528 » by MickeyDavis » Sun Jul 6, 2025 3:47 pm

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MickeyDavis wrote:I'm fine letting Ham go. Fans remember a few "Ham Slamwich" dunks from 20+ years ago but as a coach it's not a big loss. And it would hopefully eliminate the temptation to promote him to our HC at some point.


Exactly how I feel

Losing Prunty is a far bigger loss.
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Post#1529 » by Bernman » Sun Jul 6, 2025 3:54 pm

raferfenix wrote:I just listened to some pods about Turner on a plane.

Few things that stuck with me:

- Frank Madden and Locked On Bucks think this team’s ceiling is the second round of the playoffs and were generally lower on the move than I was expecting.


I've been really annoyed by fam. He's just over the top cynical. Was projecting 40 wins before the Turner move & the ceiling is like 1st rd of the playoffs. We won 48 & were better w/out Dame. Brook created match-up nightmares half the time.

And does he not realize we have at least 1 of our top 2 injured every playoff season + Doc sabotages our rotations? The roster w/ an average coach easily gets to 50's and can make a real playoff run like the Pacers if a couple things break our way.
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Post#1530 » by BUCKnation » Sun Jul 6, 2025 4:03 pm

Isn’t Ham basically the number 2 for Doc?
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Post#1531 » by raferfenix » Sun Jul 6, 2025 4:04 pm

Is Doc shedding assistants or are we opening up space on the bench to shake it up?
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Post#1532 » by Matches Malone » Sun Jul 6, 2025 4:08 pm

BUCKnation wrote:Isn’t Ham basically the number 2 for Doc?


He is. New York should probably give us a 1st for him. :wink:
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Post#1533 » by landoc88 » Sun Jul 6, 2025 4:08 pm

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I doubt we get him but id still kick the tires on him at $3 million if hes interested along with every other contender
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Post#1534 » by paulpressey25 » Sun Jul 6, 2025 4:11 pm

raferfenix wrote:Is Doc shedding assistants or are we opening up space on the bench to shake it up?


We had way too many #2 guys last year. And likely at higher salaries.
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Post#1535 » by stillgotgame » Sun Jul 6, 2025 4:12 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:I'm fine letting Ham go. Fans remember a few "Ham Slamwich" dunks from 20+ years ago but as a coach it's not a big loss. And it would hopefully eliminate the temptation to promote him to our HC at some point.


This would be great. Ham isn’t bad but we desperately need a change of direction when Doc is finally canned.
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Post#1536 » by paulpressey25 » Sun Jul 6, 2025 4:12 pm

It’s possible for KPJ to be a lower BBIQ, erratic player and at the same time still do awesome things on certain nights. We need him bad. Maybe as he matures he’ll get more consistent.
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Post#1537 » by emunney » Sun Jul 6, 2025 4:13 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:I still have no idea why the Warriors would want Kuzma.


We just need somebody to want Kuzma in the same way the Spurs wanted RJ years ago: enough to give us some spare parts we can use.
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Post#1538 » by MickeyDavis » Sun Jul 6, 2025 4:15 pm

Coaches always want their own guys on staff. Prunty (and Vin) were kept for continuity. Doc hired Joerger, Kalamian, Dominguez and Butler. When Ham was axed it was the front office that wanted to bring him back, it wasn't Doc's hire.

Assistants are always moving around so a couple of guys leaving isn't a big deal.

Hell, Orlando will be Prunty's 9th team.
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Post#1539 » by soxperry » Sun Jul 6, 2025 4:16 pm

mattg wrote:LOL at KPJ being a pure point or anything remotely adjacent to that. KPJ is a dumb as a box of rocks, low IQ chucker. That's what he has always been his entire career going back to HS. And that's what he is now still. Us being in a beyond desperate position of having easily the worst guards in the entire NBA (and that's including KPJ) means we have no option but to take a chance on KPJ maybe figuring things out, but let's not get it twisted, there's a reason KPJ is not a coveted player around the NBA even beyond his off the court issues. He's never once in his entire life showed that he can play smart, team focused basketball with the goal of winning games.


30 games is nearly a half season. He was very much a team oriented winning player for us in those 30 games last year. He talked about it, but he would spend the first half trying to get looks for shooters to get them engaged and then look to score as it got later...which is exactly what you would want from a guy like him.

And by the way, he can generate an open look for someone better than anyone we have had in the last decade. Because unlike Dame, he gets around his man very quickly which forces the help very quickly. And unlike Giannis, he makes very quick passes that dont allow the rotation back into the play. Im not saying Giannis always does this but its a thing with him at times. So without even factoring in any lob or entry passing, KPJ is already kind of a cheat code in generating quality looks for teammates. Now you add in a full off-season with the same staff, something he hasnt had since 2022, and i think you will see an even better version of him.
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Post#1540 » by MickeyDavis » Sun Jul 6, 2025 4:16 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:It’s possible for KPJ to be a lower BBIQ, erratic player and at the same time still do awesome things on certain nights. We need him bad. Maybe as he matures he’ll get more consistent.

Yup. He's 25.
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