Around the League - Curry Out "A few weeks"

[paulpressey25]

This is exciting news. Could just be a bone they are throwing the small markets, which later gets dropped. But maybe a few more teams are discouraged by the amazing revenue machine known as GSW, and their ability to outspend even the heavy spenders by large amounts.

The NBA's "increasingly determined pursuit of an Upper Spending Limit" has been the No. 1 issue in their recent collective bargaining agreement negotiations with the NBPA. With the two sides nowhere close to a new deal, there will likely be an extension of the December 15th deadline for either side to opt out of the current agreement.

The league does not appear to be using the Upper Spending Limit, which is effectively a hard cap, as a negotiation tactic in order to gain concessions in other areas.

There is belief that a new system is needed for competitive balance.

"There will be a lockout before there’s a hard cap," one sources on the players' side told Marc Stein in October.

[MickeyDavis]

Hard cap would be great. Contrary to what's being reported, I do believe it will be used as a chip to get other things and ultimately dropped by the owners. We'll see.

[MickeyDavis]

Interesting games tonight:

I think Bucks/Kings should be the early national game instead of Hawks'/Knicks, market size be damned.

Boston/Phoenix highlights the evening, should be a fun game.

Warriors/Jazz could be interesting.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

Hard cap would be great. Contrary to what's being reported, I do believe it will be used as a chip to get other things and ultimately dropped by the owners. We'll see.

Yeah, didn't that happen last time. Ultimately even the small owners valued BRI split more than competitive measures

[jakecronus8]

Abolishing max contracts is still my number one priority. Create more parity and really strategy

[WeekapaugGroove]

Abolishing max contracts is still my number one priority. Create more parity and really strategy

Oh yeah I'd love to see a hard cap and no max contracts. Although I could see it lead to lots a star(s) and scrub type roster builds.

But hard to see a path where that happens. The current set up helps far more 'middle class' type vets than the super stars that no max would benefit. Basically all your MLE guys aren't going to care that a max makes guys like Giannis underpaid.

Plus I'll believe the players union allowing a hard cap when I see it. Hell I don't even think the rich owners really want it but they will use it as a bargaining chip.

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[Plossum]

Can’t see the hard cap going through unless they figure out how to set it at a level so players aren’t missing out on the money they can make now.

[Ron Swanson]

I'll keep saying that I don't think that eliminating max contracts is going to have the desired affect that a lot of you guys think it will. In a sport like the NBA, you basically have to artificially deflate the salaries of the top-tier superstars because it would just further increase the gap between market size. You'd have a situation where a team like the Lakers could just open up a **** ton of cap room in the summer and offer two $60+ million contracts to whomever the next young duo of superstars coming off their rookie deals. You'd have to eliminate RFA and even if you kept matching rights, teams would just start offering 1-2 mil over what they know a smaller market team couldn't due to a hard cap. And all the mid-tier and lower tier free agents would still flock to the big markets and superstar led teams because they're still going to prioritize location over small market, mid-tier playoff rosters, while taking slightly less money.

Every summer where a KD-level free agent hits the market would be chaos, and would probably be even worse than tanking. The current salary system, while not perfect, still essentially gives you 7-years of team control over a homegrown superstar and rewards good drafting, which is pretty much the entire backbone of maintaining parity and competitive balance.

[emunney]

Abolishing max contracts is still my number one priority. Create more parity and really strategy

Oh yeah I'd love to see a hard cap and no max contracts. Although I could see it lead to lots a star(s) and scrub type roster builds.

But hard to see a path where that happens. The current set up helps far more 'middle class' type vets than the super stars that no max would benefit. Basically all your MLE guys aren't going to care that a max makes guys like Giannis underpaid.

Plus I'll believe the players union allowing a hard cap when I see it. Hell I don't even think the rich owners really want it but they will use it as a bargaining chip.

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Max salaries is also for the players, as the vast majority of them would see their salaries reduced if "Giannis" could fill 90% of the cap by himself.

[DingleJerry]

Yea I don't think the union would go for it. The max salary keeps the middle class of the incredibly richer than they would without it. To get everyone else vote to shift more of the money to the top 12 guys, keeping in mind those top 12 guys are making tens of millions more per year in endorsements just doesn't' seem likely. Though I do agree it would probably be the best way besides hard cap to balance things.

IDK, before any of this or along with it they'll have to sort out expanding two teams.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Abolishing max contracts is still my number one priority. Create more parity and really strategy

Oh yeah I'd love to see a hard cap and no max contracts. Although I could see it lead to lots a star(s) and scrub type roster builds.

But hard to see a path where that happens. The current set up helps far more 'middle class' type vets than the super stars that no max would benefit. Basically all your MLE guys aren't going to care that a max makes guys like Giannis underpaid.

Plus I'll believe the players union allowing a hard cap when I see it. Hell I don't even think the rich owners really want it but they will use it as a bargaining chip.

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Max salaries is also for the players, as the vast majority of them would see their salaries reduced if "Giannis" could fill 90% of the cap by himself.

Yeah I probably didn't do a good job articulating that. It definitely helps far more of the middle of the pack guys get bigger deals than it hurts the true top guys who deserve more. That's why I can't see the union get behind it.

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[blazza18]

Really sucks what a good fit Brogdon is in Boston.

[RiotPunch]

Really sucks what a good fit Brogdon is in Boston.

He's gone from wanting to start and being concerned about Milwaukee segregation to not starting in possibly the most racist city in the north.

But yeah, he's perfect on any team in his current role

[emunney]

Oh yeah I'd love to see a hard cap and no max contracts. Although I could see it lead to lots a star(s) and scrub type roster builds.

But hard to see a path where that happens. The current set up helps far more 'middle class' type vets than the super stars that no max would benefit. Basically all your MLE guys aren't going to care that a max makes guys like Giannis underpaid.

Plus I'll believe the players union allowing a hard cap when I see it. Hell I don't even think the rich owners really want it but they will use it as a bargaining chip.

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Max salaries is also for the players, as the vast majority of them would see their salaries reduced if "Giannis" could fill 90% of the cap by himself.

Yeah I probably didn't do a good job articulating that. It definitely helps far more of the middle of the pack guys get bigger deals than it hurts the true top guys who deserve more. That's why I can't see the union get behind it.

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Was it you who were the problem, or am I just functionally illiterate?

[Turk Nowitzki]

Of course the Suns are laying an egg tonight.

[Daver]

Im giving up the parley had boston going 1-5 on this road trip

[VooDoo7]

BOS gonna be a problem.

[Prez]

Boston’s very good but Phoenix is straight up playing like garbage right now.

[Ruben Quevedo]

I think people are still sleeping on Boston a bit if that’s possible. They are not just a good team, they are a juggernaut.

[Bucksmaniac]

I think people are still sleeping on Boston a bit if that’s possible. They are not just a good team, they are a juggernaut.

Obviously Udoka wasn’t that important as a coach, not sure if he was even a good coach seeing how Mazulla has them rolling.