Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Payne Signed

[crowhead76]

I don't get why we're arguing Green versus Livingston to make room for Bullock. If we sign Bullock, what's Beasley's role? It's gone, and he should be too.

Green can shoot with a quick release, Livingston can get to the hoop. Since we already invested in to both, we should be slightly patient in waiting for the payoff.

Beasley is a much better player than Green.

[blazza18]

I don't get why we're arguing Green versus Livingston to make room for Bullock. If we sign Bullock, what's Beasley's role? It's gone, and he should be too.

Green can shoot with a quick release, Livingston can get to the hoop. Since we already invested in to both, we should be slightly patient in waiting for the payoff.

Need you to talk me into why Green's weird looking release is quick? Seen a few people say the same thing.

[mcfromage]

Is there any source to potential Bullock interest or is this all just speculation?

[skones]

I don't get why we're arguing Green versus Livingston to make room for Bullock. If we sign Bullock, what's Beasley's role? It's gone, and he should be too.

Green can shoot with a quick release, Livingston can get to the hoop. Since we already invested in to both, we should be slightly patient in waiting for the payoff.

Need you to talk me into why Green's weird looking release is quick? Seen a few people say the same thing.

Not a lot of wasted motion, tends to catch already moving into his shooting motion bringing the ball high up along through his legs for the release.

With that being said, Beasley and Bullock are not similar. Beasley is the flamethrower, Bullock is the low volume role guy. Beasley has played 4069 minutes over the last two seasons to Bullock's 4266. Beasley has scored 1978 points over that span to Bullock's 1144. Pretty major differentiator. There's room for both, particularly when you consider our legitimate NBA player rotation on the wing consists of Khris and Pat right now. That's it.

And zero chance Livingston is getting to the hoop in NBA games any time soon.

[bucksfansince88]

I kind of like Livingston as a more athletic and bigger Sterling Brown but I can’t fault anyone for thinking he is the odd man out.


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And he’s 19

[bucksfansince88]

Chris Haynes might be a bigger addition than Dame.


Not to disrespect Eric or Jim, but Haynes is like 4 steps above them. We’re going to get actual inside stories now.

Apparently he’s married to Dame’s sister or something like that


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And Mariah’s cousin

[theFireBlanket]

Chris Haynes might be a bigger addition than Dame.


Not to disrespect Eric or Jim, but Haynes is like 4 steps above them. We’re going to get actual inside stories now.

Apparently he’s married to Dame’s sister or something like that


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And Mariah’s cousin

No f'n way. Okay Dame & Giannis totally made this thing happen. L O L.... yeah... Haynes , Dame & Giannis interactions way too telling.

Then you tell us Chris is married to Dame's sister! We already knew dude was Mariah's cousin.

[ShootingtheJ]

I don't get why we're arguing Green versus Livingston to make room for Bullock. If we sign Bullock, what's Beasley's role? It's gone, and he should be too.

Green can shoot with a quick release, Livingston can get to the hoop. Since we already invested in to both, we should be slightly patient in waiting for the payoff.

Beasley is a much better player than Green.

Beasley has been terrible the last 2 years. Players with a 52TS% aren't much better than anyone.

[skones]

I kind of like Livingston as a more athletic and bigger Sterling Brown but I can’t fault anyone for thinking he is the odd man out.


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And he’s 19

Brown could shoot a bit, primary difference. Let's just say the Chris Livingston hitch should tell you there's a long way to go in that department.

[bucksfansince88]

I kind of like Livingston as a more athletic and bigger Sterling Brown but I can’t fault anyone for thinking he is the odd man out.


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And he’s 19

Brown could shoot a bit, primary difference. Let's just say the Chris Livingston hitch should tell you there's a long way to go in that department.

I’m not going to gripe about a toolsy 19yo blue chip guy coming out of coach Cals program. We can and need to be patient with 1-2 guys like him on our roster. If he doesn’t show enough after a year or two cut bait and move on! bucks have blown much more than the 3m or so they’re giving him.

[skones]

And he’s 19

Brown could shoot a bit, primary difference. Let's just say the Chris Livingston hitch should tell you there's a long way to go in that department.

I’m not going to gripe about a toolsy 19yo blue chip guy coming out of coach Cals program. We can and need to be patient with 1-2 guys like him on our roster. If he doesn’t show enough after a year or two cut bait and move on! bucks have blown much more than the 3m or so they’re giving him.

Sure, but I don't see him as "toolsy" when I take his actual game into account. He doesn't have a sound skill foundation to build off of. ALSO worth noting WAS NOT one of the good ones finishing outside the AP Top 25. This "blue chip guy" was behind upper classman transfers from West Virginia, Illinois State, and Rhode Island. It wasn't your typical stacked Cal team.

[benultimate]

Livingston would have been much better suited to a 2-way. Maybe this deal with Klutch pays off but I can't see it helping too much in the short term.

[bucksfansince88]

Brown could shoot a bit, primary difference. Let's just say the Chris Livingston hitch should tell you there's a long way to go in that department.

I’m not going to gripe about a toolsy 19yo blue chip guy coming out of coach Cals program. We can and need to be patient with 1-2 guys like him on our roster. If he doesn’t show enough after a year or two cut bait and move on! bucks have blown much more than the 3m or so they’re giving him.

Sure, but I don't see him as "toolsy" when I take his actual game into account. He doesn't have a sound skill foundation to build off of. ALSO worth noting WAS NOT one of the good ones finishing outside the AP Top 25. This "blue chip guy" was behind upper classman transfers from West Virginia, Illinois State, and Rhode Island. It wasn't your typical stacked Cal team.

I think he has Lots of potential on the defensive side of the ball and is skilled enough to be effective on the other side of the ball. Lots to work with, just have to let the chips fall where they fall and be patient. I see your points though bro. He’s not a guy I’m going to hold onto if it comes down to adding a real contributor.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

Pretty much any of the new rookie guys can go for all I care. Watch them in camp and then cut whoever for the vets. We know these guys like all have a 5% chance of a career tops

If they can't shoot or defend like freaks especially. Cut em

It is incredibly important that the Bucks start to develop talent. They have very limited ways to acquire talent for the next 7 years and they will need to do everything they can to build from within.

we are trying to win championships. its literally completely unimportant that we try to develop talent. whats really important is acquiring talent if it is available and staring us in the face then why would we prioritize the same things rebuilding lotto teams do with talent and roster construction?

young guys can be developed if they have the obvious reason to be patient developing them in the sense that their ceilings higher and a certain amount of cant miss longterm.

im completely unconvinced we have anybody on our roster like that. for example im not even sure marjon will ever be as good as bullock is right now. whats that say for the other guys then?

ill leave it to our frontoffice to figure this out but having young guys just for the sake of having young guys is dumb dumb dumb and the difference between developing talent or simply signing it or acquiring it any way is no difference whatsoever.

[Garbs_7]

Bullock signing with Houston. At least it's not Boston ?

[Garbs_7]

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[JayMKE]

Kinda figured Bullock would want to go where the minutes are, probably for the best don't want another George Hill or Serge Ibaka situation where the vet is pouting on the bench or worse yet have them block a young guy,

[Badgerlander]

So Bullock is the Kevin Porter Jr replacement. He got more than minimum

[tsamo]

At times like these, I am questioning whether giving Donte away was the smart choice going forward.
It feels like we would be set with him starting the 2.

[Jimmmycrackcorn]

Bucks need to figure out a way to pry Caruso from Chicago