Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas

[raferfenix]

The biggest mistake we made was trading for Dame. Huge one. Gonna sting for a few years

Am interested in alternative history where we traded for FVV the deadline before that offseason.

Board whispers made it sound like Bobby being included alongside a future first and Grayson Allen may or may not have been a sticking point.

Or Toronto just said no before inexplicably letting FVV walk for nothing:

https://www.si.com/nba/raptors/news/milwaukee-bucks-made-trade-deadline-push-for-fred-vanvleet

[soxperry]

I'm pretty optimistic about Rollins next year. Think getting his shoulder fixed a few weeks ago + another year of development is gonna make him a pretty useful player next year, really hope we can get him on a cheap-ish multi year deal. Keep forgetting he's still only 22.

absolutely!! just as vaulable as ajg and kpj imo. these 3 are the guys we have to get lucky on

Yeah, kpj...hes just like rollins and ajg. Indistinguishable.

I think for my own sanity im going to stop trying to explain his value and just wait til.... November. If hes a buck in November, it will be very clear and I wont have to say anything.

Luckily, Doc and Horat know exactly what he is, thats why they traded for him.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

Where did you get the rumor?

That he wants that much hasnt been posted here.

he needs you as his agent!!

**** this guy if he even breathed that number tho. give me a freaking break. that number if hes talking out loud about it speaks volumes for why hes not the one

This is not from KPJ, it's Hollingers prognostication.

Always remember, according to the media, the Bucks can't afford any of our own players, but they're also worth nothing in trade.

hollinger said 17mil?

lord have mercy. if thats his rate i owe soxperry my ass

[soxperry]

he needs you as his agent!!

**** this guy if he even breathed that number tho. give me a freaking break. that number if hes talking out loud about it speaks volumes for why hes not the one

This is not from KPJ, it's Hollingers prognostication.

Always remember, according to the media, the Bucks can't afford any of our own players, but they're also worth nothing in trade.

hollinger said 17mil?

lord have mercy. if thats his rate i owe soxperry my ass

Hollinger said over 18. But he noted it doesn't take into account off court stuff.

I feel good about being able to retain him.

[CJTURT]

The biggest mistake we made was trading for Dame. Huge one. Gonna sting for a few years

It was a mistake for us pre-achilles injury too. He's got to take that to heart and have that motivate him to at least try on d & not mope on the ball when he comes back. Could make him more of a winning player actually, as a role guy. Then he could restructure w/ a team friendly deal.

The mistake wasn't trading for him, it was a good value deal. The mistake was not cashing him in when it was obvious how little he cared about anything but himself.

If we had dealt him at the deadline for a decent package, we might be still playing.

I agree with all of this

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

I'm pretty optimistic about Rollins next year. Think getting his shoulder fixed a few weeks ago + another year of development is gonna make him a pretty useful player next year, really hope we can get him on a cheap-ish multi year deal. Keep forgetting he's still only 22.

absolutely!! just as vaulable as ajg and kpj imo. these 3 are the guys we have to get lucky on

Yeah, kpj...hes just like rollins and ajg. Indistinguishable.

I think for my own sanity im going to stop trying to explain his value and just wait til.... November. If hes a buck in November, it will be very clear and I wont have to say anything.

Luckily, Doc and Horat know exactly what he is, thats why they traded for him.

relax...simply stating they are the 3 young guys with significant upside. youre too overzealous with this kpj stuff. i want him too...badly....if we get a cheap deal. he can make more later when we get a longer look.

we just disagree with what we should pay now. i dont want to lose a bidding war by being the team that gets him....now....IF there is such a bidding war between teams taking on his risk

[soxperry]

absolutely!! just as vaulable as ajg and kpj imo. these 3 are the guys we have to get lucky on

Yeah, kpj...hes just like rollins and ajg. Indistinguishable.

I think for my own sanity im going to stop trying to explain his value and just wait til.... November. If hes a buck in November, it will be very clear and I wont have to say anything.

Luckily, Doc and Horat know exactly what he is, thats why they traded for him.

relax...simply stating they are the 3 young guys with significant upside. youre too overzealous with this kpj stuff. i want him too...badly....if we get a cheap deal. he can make more later when we get a longer look.

we just disagree with what we should pay now. i dont want to lose a bidding war by being the team that gets him....now....IF there is such a bidding war between teams taking on his risk

What would be the appropriate level of zeal if you knew in your bones that your team, which desperately needs young talent, had a chance to retain a guy who could put up 24/7/7 as a second option?

If anything, im underzealous!

But i will relax because its probably not fun to read every single day. We gon' see.

[BigO]

Amazing what a year does. I remember watching Rollins last year on the Herd come off the bench. He didn't even start.

Yet on here I wrote that he was the best defender on the Herd. He wasn't as effectve this year defensively on the Bucks, but hopefully chalk it up to his shoulder.

AJG should have had much more playing time this past season to work on his game. Instead, we had to see Prince eat up valuable minutes and Kuzma destroy everyone's collectve BBIQ.

My point is that Doc has his favorites and unfortunately those favorites happen to be among the worst players on the team.

[German Athens]

Got traction on the trade board with a deal around the ‘31 1st.

My original deal:
‘31 1st (unprotected) for 15+24

The feedback was that the bucks shouldn’t do it, and OKC should take it and run.

Someone else proposed:

‘31 1st (top 4 protected) for 15+24

I said I don’t want to protect the pick, because then you aren’t maximizing the value of it. So, Isaiah Joe was brought up.

A Portland fan proposed:
Bobby + ‘31 1st (top 4 protected) for Jaylin Williams , Isaiah Joe, 15, + 24

Im not super interested in moving off Bobby for something like that, so my latest is this:

Pat + ‘31 1st (unprotected) for Joe, 15, 24

That deal would allow OKC to duck the 2nd apron and keep their starting unit together after they extend Jalen + Chet next summer.

[FrieAaron]

Jaylin Williams is definitely someone I'd be interested in buying low on if we can. How much does OKC value him?

[German Athens]

Jaylin Williams is definitely someone I'd be interested in buying low on if we can. How much does OKC value him?

If the valuation is right above, I bet we could do:

Andre + ‘31 1st (maybe slightly protected) for Jaylin, 15 + 24

[buckboy]

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/ranking-all-68-traded-future-nba-first-round-picks-suns-face-surprising-rival-for-dubious-honor-of-no-1/

Here's one man opinion, but written last year he has the bucks 2030 (at the time six years away) first as the 7th most valuable pick out of the 65 that have been traded.

He's also got their 2027 and 2029 picks ranked #4 and #1. He think's Giannis is gone. If the Bucks trade Giannis for a salary dump and picks only I could see them being bad enough to make those picks extremely valuable. But my view on picks owed multiple years down the road is you're giving teams a healthy on-ramp to avoid that, and I think any team actually trying to be good can at least get to play-in status, especially in the East.

i can't imagine it's possible to accurately rank future draft picks given all the variables and dynamics at play.. but the sub text here is that our 31 1st might be seen as incredibly valuable if league GMs would rank things similarly.

It most certainly is. Phoneix's stupidity notwithstanding.

[Frank Nova]

Got traction on the trade board with a deal around the ‘31 1st.

My original deal:
‘31 1st (unprotected) for 15+24

The feedback was that the bucks shouldn’t do it, and OKC should take it and run.

Someone else proposed:

‘31 1st (top 4 protected) for 15+24

I said I don’t want to protect the pick, because then you aren’t maximizing the value of it. So, Isaiah Joe was brought up.

A Portland fan proposed:
Bobby + ‘31 1st (top 4 protected) for Jaylin Williams , Isaiah Joe, 15, + 24

Im not super interested in moving off Bobby for something like that, so my latest is this:

Pat + ‘31 1st (unprotected) for Joe, 15, 24

That deal would allow OKC to duck the 2nd apron and keep their starting unit together after they extend Jalen + Chet next summer.

Bobby and the 2031 1st for 2 backups and 2 mid 1sts is pretty bad value imo. I’d do the Pat trade tho in a heartbeat. Looks like Wiggins Wallace and Caruso completely pushed Joe out in the playoffs, he’s probably available like you’re suggesting.

[soxperry]

Got traction on the trade board with a deal around the ‘31 1st.

My original deal:
‘31 1st (unprotected) for 15+24

The feedback was that the bucks shouldn’t do it, and OKC should take it and run.

Someone else proposed:

‘31 1st (top 4 protected) for 15+24

I said I don’t want to protect the pick, because then you aren’t maximizing the value of it. So, Isaiah Joe was brought up.

A Portland fan proposed:
Bobby + ‘31 1st (top 4 protected) for Jaylin Williams , Isaiah Joe, 15, + 24

Im not super interested in moving off Bobby for something like that, so my latest is this:

Pat + ‘31 1st (unprotected) for Joe, 15, 24

That deal would allow OKC to duck the 2nd apron and keep their starting unit together after they extend Jalen + Chet next summer.

Bobby and the 2031 1st for 2 backups and 2 mid 1sts is pretty bad value imo. I’d do the Pat trade tho in a heartbeat. Looks like Wiggins Wallace and Caruso completely pushed Joe out in the playoffs, he’s probably available like you’re suggesting.

There will be quite a few teams looking to deal with OKC and grab their 1sts this year. We do have probably the most attractive future 1st to offer but we would be left with rookies who we dont have time to wait for. So then it becomes flipping those for vets but, unless a team tells us they prefer current year picks, we would probably be better suited just saving the 31 1st for that.

[RiotPunch]

Jaylin Williams is definitely someone I'd be interested in buying low on if we can. How much does OKC value him?

If the valuation is right above, I bet we could do:

Andre + ‘31 1st (maybe slightly protected) for Jaylin, 15 + 24

Does Kuz+15+24 get us into Cam Johnson territory? I kinda doubt it, what's the plan with those picks?

[The Wet Whistle]

Jaylin Williams is definitely someone I'd be interested in buying low on if we can. How much does OKC value him?

If the valuation is right above, I bet we could do:

Andre + ‘31 1st (maybe slightly protected) for Jaylin, 15 + 24

I think I could get on board with this one. If you're rolling out something like this, yeah, it's a development year, but you still likely make the playoffs in the east and get some valuable time for the younger guys. I also think it could be a fun watch

Porter/ Rollins
Green
Coward/ Penda/ Pat
Giannis/ Kuz
Bobby/ Williams

[mlloyd10]

According to Cris Davis on X

Report: When the San Antonio Spurs inquired about Giannis Antetokounmpo, the Milwaukee Bucks reportedly set a steep asking price for the two-time MVP. According to sources, the Bucks demanded:

1. Stephon Castle
2. Devin Vassell
3. Jeremy Sochan
4. 2025 No. 2 overall pick
5. Hawks' first-round picks (controlled by Spurs)
6. *FIVE* additional first-round picks

The hefty price tag signaled Milwaukee's reluctance to trade their superstar unless an overwhelming offer was made, forcing the Spurs to reconsider sacrificing their young core and significant draft capital.

[Rstuedes24]

Saw a bleacher report trade idea giving up Dame/Smith and Ajax/31 and swaps for Trae Young. Sign me up on that

[MickeyDavis]

Cris Davis has no sources or credibility

[raferfenix]

So Bobby was asked about the Warriors rumors in the same interview he said he's prioritizing being fairly compensated to his peers:

“My first thought when it comes to these reports is: how do these people know so much?” Portis said on the “Run it Back” show on FanDuel TV. “How do these people [insiders] know these things so fast? Who is behind the scenes calling and checking in and all this?”

The host Michelle Beadle cited Portis’ familiarity with Warriors coach Steve Kerr while playing for the United States at the FIBA World Cup — even though the U.S. finished fourth at the tournament.

The Dubs also could use a player of Portis’ stature, especially with mainstay Kevon Looney expected to depart via free agency. Reserve center Quinten Post is the only player on the Golden State roster that is taller than Portis.

When pressed specifically about Golden State, Portis deflected and stated why he wouldn’t want to be an insider.

“All these guys that report these things, I don’t know if I would want that job,” Portis said. “I wouldn’t want to stay up all night, stand by my phone, gotta check in with guys at 3 in the morning. That’s a tough one to have.”

https://heavy.com/sports/nba/golden-state-warriors/bobby-portis-responds-to-rumors-warriors/