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Post#1581 » by LuessiT » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:58 pm

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RiotPunch wrote:Stewart is a great kid and hard worker by all accounts, but he's pretty bad. I personally would not draft him.


Damn! I also really liked Ike Anigbogu, so what do I know.

Wow lol took me awhile to remember who that was. I thought you were talking about that Ike Diogu at first. Is Anigbogu overseas somewhere now? I can’t remember if I was for or against him but I remember a lot of people loved him here.

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Post#1582 » by emunney » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:59 pm

I loved Anigbogu but apparently that medical flag was legit.
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Post#1583 » by RiotPunch » Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:31 pm

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RiotPunch wrote:Stewart is a great kid and hard worker by all accounts, but he's pretty bad. I personally would not draft him.


Damn! I also really liked Ike Anigbogu, so what do I know.

Schmitz and Vecenie are pretty bullish on Stewart as a guy you can feel comfortable betting on, I would just rather invest in bankable premium skills and a higher ceiling archetype than an energy big. I'm lower than most on Precious and Oturu for similar reasons.

I loved Ike too, I guess I've drifted away from placing too much value in the high-motor-rim-protector types over the years. Those guys tend to be available for cheap.
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Post#1584 » by ReasonablySober » Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:43 pm

I would be surprised, based on the front offices history, if we didn't draft someone highly athletic for their class.
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Post#1586 » by Badgerlander » Sun Nov 1, 2020 1:59 pm

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Still have Riller near the top of my list at our pick

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Post#1587 » by mattg » Sun Nov 1, 2020 5:20 pm

Riller is sorta junk to me. Don't think he's going to be a good NBA 3 shooter at all, he has low-ish volume and his percentages aren't good, especially for his conference. Not a fan of his mechanics either. He gets a lot of layups slicing CAA defenses off ball screens but NBA defenses won't be porous in the same way and he isn't going to easily finish against larger, more athletic NBA defenders.

Seems like a total waste of pick with the fact that he's not a good decision maker, sorta small, sorta old, not really a defender, etc. Get the vibe he's a few years in the G-league or at the end of the bench guy before he even cracks a rotation.

Honestly if we wanted to go guard at that pick we should be targeting Payton Pritchard.
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Post#1588 » by ShootingtheJ » Sun Nov 1, 2020 6:27 pm

emunney wrote:Great measurements for T. Bey. Probably should start thinking of him as more of a defense first John Collins, maybe even Crash Wallace.


I was thinking more like Brandon Clarke. Good fit for today's basketball. We need a combo forward. Hopefully a PG we like falls, but this could be an option.
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Post#1589 » by midranger » Sun Nov 1, 2020 6:35 pm

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emunney wrote:Great measurements for T. Bey. Probably should start thinking of him as more of a defense first John Collins, maybe even Crash Wallace.


I was thinking more like Brandon Clarke. Good fit for today's basketball. We need a combo forward. Hopefully a PG we like falls, but this could be an option.


I was kind of wondering where people might think he’d fall on the Des Mason - Gerald Wallace - Shawn Marion spectrum
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Post#1590 » by Ruzious » Sun Nov 1, 2020 11:14 pm

mattg wrote:Riller is sorta junk to me. Don't think he's going to be a good NBA 3 shooter at all, he has low-ish volume and his percentages aren't good, especially for his conference. Not a fan of his mechanics either. He gets a lot of layups slicing CAA defenses off ball screens but NBA defenses won't be porous in the same way and he isn't going to easily finish against larger, more athletic NBA defenders.

Seems like a total waste of pick with the fact that he's not a good decision maker, sorta small, sorta old, not really a defender, etc. Get the vibe he's a few years in the G-league or at the end of the bench guy before he even cracks a rotation.

Honestly if we wanted to go guard at that pick we should be targeting Payton Pritchard.

Gotta like a 50/40/80 player who can play the point. He reminds me a bit of Fred VanVleet - who did that in his sophomore year in college - though he fell off in his junior and senior years. FVV got physically stronger in the NBA - I'd like to see Pritchard do the same. Pritchard seems to have that same kind of mental toughness that FVV has - wants the ball in his hands in pressure situations.
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Post#1591 » by drone3 » Mon Nov 2, 2020 2:35 am

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mattg wrote:Riller is sorta junk to me. Don't think he's going to be a good NBA 3 shooter at all, he has low-ish volume and his percentages aren't good, especially for his conference. Not a fan of his mechanics either. He gets a lot of layups slicing CAA defenses off ball screens but NBA defenses won't be porous in the same way and he isn't going to easily finish against larger, more athletic NBA defenders.

Seems like a total waste of pick with the fact that he's not a good decision maker, sorta small, sorta old, not really a defender, etc. Get the vibe he's a few years in the G-league or at the end of the bench guy before he even cracks a rotation.

Honestly if we wanted to go guard at that pick we should be targeting Payton Pritchard.

Gotta like a 50/40/80 player who can play the point. He reminds me a bit of Fred VanVleet - who did that in his sophomore year in college - though he fell off in his junior and senior years. FVV got physically stronger in the NBA - I'd like to see Pritchard do the same. Pritchard seems to have that same kind of mental toughness that FVV has - wants the ball in his hands in pressure situations.
Pritchard is a better shooter and passer than Donte. He also has high IQ and huge balls. Problem is he is so slow and unathletic, will get murdered at the rim and on D.
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Post#1592 » by Wonka » Mon Nov 2, 2020 2:43 am

The more and more I read, the more it seems Terry is going to be the pick. I don’t know much about his game outside of a few YouTube videos and some Ringer content. Can someone give me a full view of who he is as a player?
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Post#1593 » by Ill-yasova » Mon Nov 2, 2020 3:07 am

I don’t want to hear anything about size or defense, I know there are obvious shortcomings. That said, I would kill to have Markus Howard coming off the bench in the playoffs next year. Nobody was better at creating their own shot and we are in desperate need of that. He regularly hit contested 3’s coming off of screens and he was one of the best pull up 3 point shooters in college basketball on very high volume. Worst case scenario I think he’s a DJ Augustine type with possible Terrence Ross potential.
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Post#1594 » by RiotPunch » Mon Nov 2, 2020 4:03 am

Ill-yasova wrote:I don’t want to hear anything about size or defense, I know there are obvious shortcomings. That said, I would kill to have Markus Howard coming off the bench in the playoffs next year. Nobody was better at creating their own shot and we are in desperate need of that. He regularly hit contested 3’s coming off of screens and he was one of the best pull up 3 point shooters in college basketball on very high volume. Worst case scenario I think he’s a DJ Augustine type with possible Terrence Ross potential.

Wait... you think his worst case is Augustin and has a scoring/slashing wing ceiling? Jk, I know what you mean w/ Ross.

He commits turnovers as often as he gets assists, and is pretty terrible on defense-- in college. He's pound for pound the best shooter in this class, but FAR from anything resembling a complete player and I'm not sure he ever gets playoff PT, let alone next season. And then there's the things you said you don't want to hear about.
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Post#1595 » by Ill-yasova » Mon Nov 2, 2020 4:10 am

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Ill-yasova wrote:I don’t want to hear anything about size or defense, I know there are obvious shortcomings. That said, I would kill to have Markus Howard coming off the bench in the playoffs next year. Nobody was better at creating their own shot and we are in desperate need of that. He regularly hit contested 3’s coming off of screens and he was one of the best pull up 3 point shooters in college basketball on very high volume. Worst case scenario I think he’s a DJ Augustine type with possible Terrence Ross potential.

Wait... you think his worst case is Augustin and has a scoring/slashing wing ceiling?

He commits turnovers as often as he gets assists, and is pretty terrible on defense-- in college. He's pound for pound the best shooter in this class, but FAR from a complete player and I'm not sure he ever gets playoff PT, let alone next season. And then there's the things you said you don't want to hear about.

I’d like to think the turnovers were part of his incredibly high usage rate in college and if he’s put into a super sub role you can cut down on that quite a bit. As far as the comparisons go I’m just looking at the efficiency/shot creation side of things more than the actual positions played. He shot 43% on 8 attempts a game with most of those attempts being pull-ups or quick catch and shoots. He regularly made incredibly tough contested shots and we need that ability off the bench.

As far as defense goes, I think he’s an incredible competitor and he’ll do what he can to become as little of a liability as possible. He’s fought to get to the level he’s at now, he’d do the same in the NBA.
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Post#1596 » by Matches Malone » Mon Nov 2, 2020 4:20 am

Saddiq Bey would be fun to have on this team.
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Post#1597 » by BucksFanSD » Mon Nov 2, 2020 5:22 am

Wonka wrote:The more and more I read, the more it seems Terry is going to be the pick. I don’t know much about his game outside of a few YouTube videos and some Ringer content. Can someone give me a full view of who he is as a player?


Suns are supposedly considering him at #10 pretty seriously. I don't think he gets near our pick.
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Post#1598 » by BucksFanSD » Mon Nov 2, 2020 5:23 am

If true, those measurements are not good for Riller. Seems like a definite 2nd round pick for me considering age, competition, size, and average three point shooting.
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Post#1599 » by drone3 » Mon Nov 2, 2020 6:30 am

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Ill-yasova wrote:I don’t want to hear anything about size or defense, I know there are obvious shortcomings. That said, I would kill to have Markus Howard coming off the bench in the playoffs next year. Nobody was better at creating their own shot and we are in desperate need of that. He regularly hit contested 3’s coming off of screens and he was one of the best pull up 3 point shooters in college basketball on very high volume. Worst case scenario I think he’s a DJ Augustine type with possible Terrence Ross potential.

Wait... you think his worst case is Augustin and has a scoring/slashing wing ceiling?

He commits turnovers as often as he gets assists, and is pretty terrible on defense-- in college. He's pound for pound the best shooter in this class, but FAR from a complete player and I'm not sure he ever gets playoff PT, let alone next season. And then there's the things you said you don't want to hear about.

I’d like to think the turnovers were part of his incredibly high usage rate in college and if he’s put into a super sub role you can cut down on that quite a bit. As far as the comparisons go I’m just looking at the efficiency/shot creation side of things more than the actual positions played. He shot 43% on 8 attempts a game with most of those attempts being pull-ups or quick catch and shoots. He regularly made incredibly tough contested shots and we need that ability off the bench.

As far as defense goes, I think he’s an incredible competitor and he’ll do what he can to become as little of a liability as possible. He’s fought to get to the level he’s at now, he’d do the same in the NBA.
Markus shooting is droool worthy. I know he's short but he's taller than Tyler Ulis / Kay Felder type. He's shooting could seriously out weigh he's terrible D. If he learns to run an offense he could stick around.
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Post#1600 » by Wonka » Mon Nov 2, 2020 7:03 am

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Wonka wrote:The more and more I read, the more it seems Terry is going to be the pick. I don’t know much about his game outside of a few YouTube videos and some Ringer content. Can someone give me a full view of who he is as a player?


Suns are supposedly considering him at #10 pretty seriously. I don't think he gets near our pick.


Oh really? I haven’t heard much regarding his stock rising to a lottery level pick. Good on him though. Suns definitely need to take some chances going forward

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