3rd Annual Fire Kidd Thread - Volume 2 (Horst Interview pg 14)

econniption · Post #162 » by **econniption** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:35 pm

The Bucks have averaged 21.6 points per quarter in their last 9 quarters and 18.2 points per in their last 5. Their basic statistics on offense are starting to match their aesthetics now.

Buck Dweller · Post #163 » by **Buck Dweller** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:41 pm

econniption wrote:The Bucks have averaged 21.6 points per quarter in their last 9 quarters and 18.2 points per in their last 5. Their basic statistics on offense are starting to match their aesthetics now.

So the offense has actually been worse with Bledsoe instead of Monroe...

ZeppelinPage · Post #164 » by **ZeppelinPage** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:53 pm

VooDoo7 wrote:

NomNomNomParker · Post #165 » by **NomNomNomParker** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:20 pm

Kidd and his dumb schemes, dumb rotations and dumb adjustments are quickly killing any enthusiasm I have remaining this year. This team for as long as I can remember just loves to stick with a failing plan...

econniption · Post #166 » by **econniption** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:22 pm

Buck Dweller wrote:
econniption wrote:The Bucks have averaged 21.6 points per quarter in their last 9 quarters and 18.2 points per in their last 5. Their basic statistics on offense are starting to match their aesthetics now.

So the offense has actually been worse with Bledsoe instead of Monroe...

I think they're offense overall is probably statistically better with Bledsoe than Monroe. But some people have said that their offense is fine just because the team's been averaging x number of points per game or rank x in OFFRTG despite often looking looking ugly and stagnant. I'm just saying that their points per game (or quarter) is starting to get as ugly as their offense often looks.

ZeppelinPage · Post #167 » by **ZeppelinPage** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:28 pm

Can you imagine how bad we would be without Giannis? Holy ****.

econniption · Post #168 » by **econniption** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:29 pm

Read on Twitter

So, of course, this is what happens.

Read on Twitter

Wooderson · Post #169 » by **Wooderson** » Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:56 am

Kidd starting to feel the heat.

https://streamable.com/0b0in

"He (Kidd) basically killed us. Not a joke, he did... if we don't react he's going to keep making us practice for 4-5 hours, making us go hard. So we got to be young, and that's what we do."

Chad34 · Post #170 » by **Chad34** » Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:16 am

Wooderson wrote:Kidd starting to feel the heat.

https://streamable.com/0b0in

"He (Kidd) basically killed us. Not a joke, he did... if we don't react he's going to keep making us practice for 4-5 hours, making us go hard. So we got to be young, and that's what we do."

Ridiculous.someone please stop this madman

milwaukee bunks · Post #171 » by **milwaukee bunks** » Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:28 am

so basically everyone on the team is gassed from not only a league-high in minutes but probably also a league-high in practice minutes...

FlagsFlyForever · Post #172 » by **FlagsFlyForever** » Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:36 am

I'm not going to read into anything Giannis or anybody else says. I could find a hundred Giannis quotes that make Kidd seem like a great coach. At the end of the day, Kidd needs to be judged by the results and right now the results are not there.

BroncoBuck · Post #173 » by **BroncoBuck** » Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:40 am

milwaukee bunks wrote:so basically everyone on the team is gassed from not only a league-high in minutes but probably also a league-high in practice minutes...

Nah, they just don’t practice/play hard enough since they got paid :roll:

nk657 · Post #174 » by **nk657** » Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:04 am

I find this thread very entertaining. I come here myself sometimes to have fun by reading again and again the same repeated sentences which portray Kidd as the black sheep in the flock called Milwaukee Bucks. I am sure I am not the only one who finds this thread not only completely wrong but distracting as well.

Lets suppose for a moment that Kidd gets fired or resigns somehow and lets also assume that Fizdale who has been rather unjustly expelled from Memphis, becomes the new head coach of Milwaukee. Of course the common belief is that Fizdale is a good coach no? That is what most of us believe taking into consideration the posts from the same Bucks fans who thought his removal was unfair. How many actually believe that things will change with Fizdale steering the coaching wheel? Many for sure , and only very few realize that changing coaches will change Nada.

The sad truth is that Bucks do not deserve something better than 45-50 wins with ANY coach. And even more disappointing truth is that besides Giannis and the young still Maker who cannot be judged yet, 5-6 players including Henson, Middletton , Dellavedova, Snell and Bledsoe the hasty, latest addition of another good penetrator must walk out the door. Because there is not a second player on the team who can actually make a difference. Even Miami tonight had a Dragic and Whiteshide. Is there a Dragic in Milwuakee? Obviously not. Is there a duo like Beal and Wall in this team ? Of course not. Imagine what Giannis would do if he had CJ and Lillard on his side. If he was playing in Portland instead playing together with Snell who they pay 10 Mil a year to do what exactly to shoot only 3s? I mean isn’t it ridiculous that we have almost never seen Snell shooting from 4-5 meters? How many of us understand that the desirable plan of having only long and athletic basketball players is completely flawed and that the deep , dark but pure truth is that many must go and few should stay? That the whole rebuilding process need to start from the scratch now that Giannis and they mystery man called Jabari are still young? Don’t blame your coach then hoping that things will change if he gets sacked.

They wont.

bigkurty · Post #175 » by **bigkurty** » Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:06 am

Post #176 » by **paulpressey25** » Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:08 am

^^^This man has a point.

bigkurty · Post #177 » by **bigkurty** » Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:13 am

paulpressey25 wrote:^^^This man has a point.

His point has truths I agree but the coach still sucks. There is no denying that. Why people stick up for him blows my mind.

RiotPunch · Post #178 » by **RiotPunch** » Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:21 am

Live long and prosper.

chonestown · Post #179 » by **chonestown** » Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:26 am

Don't need a Dragic when you have a Grevis. J-Kidd be playing eleventy-dimension chess.

MilHammer · Post #180 » by **MilHammer** » Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:41 am

All you have to do is watch the Mavs, Spurs, Celtics, TWolves, etc to get an idea of how a good coach gets the most out of their players. One thing that entirely frustrates me is a lack of consistency on our part, and I think that might be the most visible and damning thing against Kidd.

There is no reason why we should play the big teams close, and absolutely crumble against mediocre and below average teams. You can say its 'youth' (I don't buy that anymore), but either the coaches don't have the respect of the guys and they're out there just playing off of emotion/energy, or they're not properly setting expectations and motivating the team.

On top of that, why is it that most of our guys have regressed, and our rookies can't seem to develop? Brog was already a pretty complete player, so I won't give much credit to Kidd for that. Thon has lost confidence, Vaughn has been buried, Brown can't get consistent minutes, Teletovic was one of the best bench scorers in the league and then became a shell of his former self. Middleton has obviously regressed as well. Then you have Giannis, and guys like JET/Snell who seem like consummate professionals that give you pretty steady production.

Say what you want about our personnel decisions/draft picks, because I would agree that they have been underwhelming at best. But there's no reason why we should underperforming like we are, and watch players fall off in slow motion as soon as they put on a Bucks jersey.