PG Celtics - Bucks Fall

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

beasleys net rating is now one of the best on the team.

better than giannis and lillard. better than brook marjon or pat.

one of the few guys who is impacting both sides of the ball as the team is marginally worse on both sides when hes been sitting.

lots and lots of noise this early in the season with this but i think enough legitimacy to also state as an open fact that as long as hes hitting shots and putting in the effort he has he needs to be a legit part of the rotation. its not impossible behind ajax hes actually our best current wing defender and im not even kidding

[Serge28]

I haven't had the chance to read though these 8 pages, so apologies if someone else has brought this point up.

Most of this game was pretty frustrating, to be getting cooked like that in a huge buildup game, national TV, Jrue vs Dame, etc, etc. BUT! The comeback was incredible in its own right too. And it reminded me of the way 76ers closed out Game 6 against us in 2001 ECF. Erasing that asinine halftime deficit and then carrying on that confidence to a Game 7 win (* Scott Williams suspension will never not be BS in my book, but I digress).

It'll be interesting to see if there is any carryover confidence wise into the next matchup against Boston.

[Daver]

beasleys net rating is now one of the best on the team.

better than giannis and lillard. better than brook marjon or pat.

one of the few guys who is impacting both sides of the ball as the team is marginally worse on both sides when hes been sitting.

lots and lots of noise this early in the season with this but i think enough legitimacy to also state as an open fact that as long as hes hitting shots and putting in the effort he has he needs to be a legit part of the rotation. its not impossible behind ajax hes actually our best current wing defender and im not even kidding

To justify all the beas hate on this board they will all tell you that + and - and net rating dont mean anything to justify the beas sucks narrative.Its to bad to he may not be a good defender but hes been able to fit in n tries and has been shooting really good

[Frank Nova]

The good was Brook, Dre Jack, 4th quarter Dame, 1st half Marjon and 2nd half Khris.

The bad was 3rd quarter Marjon, 1st half Khris, Bobby Portis.

The ugly - Giannis

The irrelevant - Beasley, Pat, Payne

It’s gonna be hard to beat a championship caliber team in their building when the outcome of the individual performances of the Bucks looks like this.

Now just go beat the snot out of Washington tomorrow so I can forget last night lol.

[HKPackFan]

The bucks offense showed firepower, but there was a ton of, early shot clock let it fly one and done.

Like cmon guys pass the ball.

Other moments everyone is passing, but too often it's no movement just chuck it.

And that's on the good side of the ball. D is a disaster.

Open 3, paint points, transition, oh but we get the occasional steal. The D is FUBAR and needs to be scrapped.

[HKPackFan]

Also I'm not a Doris fan but even she noticed Dre is an impactful player.

There should be no experimenting with his minutes.

He should be getting 20 minutes a game, especially with crowder out.

Cmon! Give the rook his time on the court to grow and get better. We need him now, not next year.

[Daver]

The bucks offense showed firepower, but there was a ton of, early shot clock let it fly one and done.

Like cmon guys pass the ball.

Other moments everyone is passing, but too often it's no movement just chuck it.

And that's on the good side of the ball. D is a disaster.

Open 3, paint points, transition, oh but we get the occasional steal. The D is FUBAR and needs to be scrapped.

Yep all the BS yet they lose to the celts by only 3 with having missed like 18 bunnies i mean as bad as the D was giannis make his normal average of short shots bucks win going away.
To play thst bad boston play good and to lose by 3 this team is loaded

[Daver]

The bucks offense showed firepower, but there was a ton of, early shot clock let it fly one and done.

Like cmon guys pass the ball.

Other moments everyone is passing, but too often it's no movement just chuck it.

And that's on the good side of the ball. D is a disaster.

Open 3, paint points, transition, oh but we get the occasional steal. The D is FUBAR and needs to be scrapped.

Yep all the BS yet they lose to the celts by only 3 with having missed like 18 bunnies i mean as bad as the D was giannis make his normal average of short shots bucks win going away.
To play thst bad boston play good and to lose by 3 this team is loaded

Problem is prunty n AGs O tberes zero identity wasnt a big bud fan but i wonder what a coach with even hslf a brain cell could do with this O.
Cant tell me theres isnt 1 coach in this league who couldnt get giannis into a O system that lets dame be dame as giannis said 1000xs during the preseason

[Neuromancer56]

beasleys net rating is now one of the best on the team.

better than giannis and lillard. better than brook marjon or pat.

one of the few guys who is impacting both sides of the ball as the team is marginally worse on both sides when hes been sitting.

lots and lots of noise this early in the season with this but i think enough legitimacy to also state as an open fact that as long as hes hitting shots and putting in the effort he has he needs to be a legit part of the rotation. its not impossible behind ajax hes actually our best current wing defender and im not even kidding

You could see he was putting in effort and was effective on defense against the Celtics. I didn't have a beef with his defense. It was Khris, and Cam that killed us especially with all their misses.

[Neuromancer56]

Was the reason Giannis tried all the layups instead of dunks was that the Celtics had a guy in position, and would have drawn an offensive foul if he tried to dunk it? Because Giannis couldn't hit a layup to save his life against the Celtics. They weren't even close.

[CharityStripe34]

Honestly, the game was very forgettable as both teams had stretches where they were playing at about 80%. Celtics looked like the well-oiled machine with more continuity, the Bucks looked like the very talented but disjointed team. Some assembly still required obviously. But I wasn't even mad, because despite Freak missing what seemed like 7-8 makeable layups and being inconsistent, Dame taking forever to make an impact, Khris looking (at times) like he's 39 years old, etc. etc. They made it a game in the 4th.

C'est la vie, an early one of 82 in a long-ass season. There's plenty of tape that will show the positive things the Bucks did even while down 20, but the ball just wouldn't fall.

Happy Thanksgiving gents. Enjoy the family, food and drink.

[Neuromancer56]

Dame summed it up best: On offense, the Bucks weren't passing the ball enough, and they weren't setting enough screens. On Defense they needed to get up into the chest of the Celtics shooters from 3 because the softer defense that works against other teams doesn't work against the Celtics shooters.

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[sidney lanier]

Hoping SidneyLanier took the Bucks +5.

Sweet cover if so.

It was a sweet cover for those who took the points, but I was guilty of gambleratorial overreach and took the money line.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

this years SRS: +3.43
22-23: +3.61
21-22: +3.22
20-21: +5.57
19-20: +9.41
18-19: +8.04

best in the kidd years was: -.09
skiles best the FTD season we all loved was +1.37
karl in the ECF year 01 best was: +3.13
del harris best was 88-89 with: +4.11
nelsons best was 85-86: +8.69

nelsons teams were consistently better than weve been the last several years but could never break thru and win one. pretty much 4-8 SRS for a decade. but never even got to a final obviously because of who they had to get thru.

bottom line we need to get back into the 5s or ideally the 6+ range. thats the teams were trying to beat. we can spin this or that or that or this but the last couple years we just flat out didnt play well enough to be a champion from day one until elimination. its that easy. were trying to beat teams in the 8-10 range as a 3-4 in a 7 game series? yeah good effin luck.

i get we sit dudes out and that affects things compared to the old days but numbers down in the 3s means youre a second round team. thats just who you are on average years. we need to wake the **** up if were serious about winning another one of these

[tedbrogen]

Adrian Griffin is annoying, part 15. AJJ strings together multiple positive plays! Griffin with the quick hook. AJJ gets matched up on Tatum for back to back possessions! Griffin with the quick hook. Let the guy get some real run so we can shut up about it. This season is supposed to be fun.

And yeah, Tatum schooled Dre but Tatum was cooking everybody, so at least let Dre be on him (and all elite guys going forward) so he can learn from it. Because once he gets experience, he’s going to be a lockdown defender. No doubt in my mind.

[Daver]

Dame summed it up best: On offense, the Bucks weren't passing the ball enough, and they weren't setting enough screens. On Defense they needed to get up into the chest of the Celtics shooters from 3 because the softer defense that works against other teams doesn't work against the Celtics shooters.

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Thats just plain assinine stupidty everyone throughout the league everyone on nba tv the world knows that if you get up in the Cs space on their 3 pt shots they become the team that almost lost to the grizs lost to the hornets yet the bucks never got that memo after the 22 season.They gotta be the only team rhat game after game continues to leave the Cs shooters shoot wide open 3s wtf just amazing assinine stupidity they keep doing the same thing n xpect a different result

[BroncoBuck]

The bucks offense showed firepower, but there was a ton of, early shot clock let it fly one and done.

Like cmon guys pass the ball.

Other moments everyone is passing, but too often it's no movement just chuck it.

And that's on the good side of the ball. D is a disaster.

Open 3, paint points, transition, oh but we get the occasional steal. The D is FUBAR and needs to be scrapped.

Yep all the BS yet they lose to the celts by only 3 with having missed like 18 bunnies i mean as bad as the D was giannis make his normal average of short shots bucks win going away.
To play thst bad boston play good and to lose by 3 this team is loaded

I don’t think Boston played that well though. Jrue was a mess, Tatum and Kristaps just took the easy points, Jaylen played the best out of their four. We gave up 119 points on 84 shots to a team that was having a middle of the road shooting night.

This defense is a disaster.

[Perishable517]

The sooner Jackson gets regular run with the starters, the better. He's like Battier on a pogo stick.

I like that comparison.

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[BigO]

The Celtics team is built on two identities:

1) On offense have multiple shooters- they have that in Brown, Tatum, Porzingis, White, Hauser

2) On defense, have multiple switchable excellent defenders- they have that in White, Brown, Tatum, Holiday and Horford

The Bucks advantage on offense is Giannis and Lillard and on defense Giannis.

The Celtics weakness is no bench, especially on defense. Just stay with their bench guys like Hauser. Bucks didn't do that last night.
Their other weakness is size. Bucks took some advantage of that, but not enough.

Griffin (and Bud before him) has to be smart enough to know that you can't play the same defense against every team.

[sidney lanier]

Watching all those Bucks shots rim out in the first half, some of which looked like they should have fallen, it made me think about the old Boston Garden days, when it was rumored that Red Auerbach used to adjust the cables that supported the visitor's basket with a little extra tension to reject shots that hit the rim.

At least they don't turn off the hot water in the visitor's locker room anymore.