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Re: PG: Memphis Blues 

Post#161 » by theFireBlanket » Fri Feb 16, 2024 11:05 am

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Re: PG: Memphis Blues 

Post#162 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Fri Feb 16, 2024 11:42 am

day one i said firing bud that our run was over and that giannis was just gonna be a numbers guy again and guys said i was dumb.

looks like a a total bitch move to call me that now

didnt even watch the second half after the abortion of the first. i feel bad for you guys who still watch like i used to. this is the worst version of the bucks ive ever watched in the sense of how embarrassed i am to be a fan of the club. even when we were tanking or going for the 8th seed we often outplayed the rosters potential with guys that hustled and played as if they cared.

there is NOBODY on this roster who plays a fundamental game with pride on both ends. its the laziest weak minded group ever. at least they trusted bud tho. now they think theyre smarter than any coach.

this is on the players. all of them. if you try to single any one out as not at fault for this than youre doing it wrong.

whatevs. you wont care as much if you dont watch. ill watch again when the rosters been turned over. ALL of it
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Re: PG: Memphis Blues 

Post#163 » by GoldenAntlers » Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:26 pm

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El Pooch Grande wrote:Is there anyone in the media who has the balls to ask Dame why he hasn’t looked like well, Dame?


Pat Bev probably will
It's our only hope.
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Re: PG: Memphis Blues 

Post#164 » by GoldenAntlers » Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:28 pm

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drone3 wrote:I feel like we're going to win the whole thing


Me too, but I won't lie that the last two losses have hurt
I still believe it's possible. The team isn't taking the season seriously at all. Not a great sign, but we do know that when focused on both ends, they are nearly unbeatable.

If we can win one series, we can win them all.

Looks like a big IF right now though.
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Post#165 » by GoldenAntlers » Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:32 pm

Diggr14 wrote:Hope some suck franchises will overpay for Giannis, Damn, Khash, and Lopez in the offseason.

It's time to start completely over.


Preferably franshises with a ton of picks, looking for that "last piece" or just to make the playoffs. Giannis has checked out. He has regressed as a player and has regressed mentally. Trade in the offseason.
It's crossed my mind as well. If we flame out in the first round I'll be open to it. Otherwise, when Giannis retires we're looking at another bleak 20 years.
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Post#166 » by Packbuckman » Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:40 pm

GoldenAntlers wrote:
Diggr14 wrote:Hope some suck franchises will overpay for Giannis, Damn, Khash, and Lopez in the offseason.

It's time to start completely over.


Preferably franshises with a ton of picks, looking for that "last piece" or just to make the playoffs. Giannis has checked out. He has regressed as a player and has regressed mentally. Trade in the offseason.
It's crossed my mind as well. If we flame out in the first round I'll be open to it. Otherwise, when Giannis retires we're looking at another bleak 20 years.


Hell **** no I am trading Giannis everyone else I sure would. This team needs to start playing and developing their young players!!!
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Post#167 » by JayMKE » Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:48 pm

Giannis is only guy we need to build around, everyone else can get shuffled out. Giannis + G Leaguers isn’t a much lower basement.
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Post#168 » by randy84 » Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:55 pm

Packbuckman wrote:
GoldenAntlers wrote:
Diggr14 wrote:Hope some suck franchises will overpay for Giannis, Damn, Khash, and Lopez in the offseason.

It's time to start completely over.


Preferably franshises with a ton of picks, looking for that "last piece" or just to make the playoffs. Giannis has checked out. He has regressed as a player and has regressed mentally. Trade in the offseason.
It's crossed my mind as well. If we flame out in the first round I'll be open to it. Otherwise, when Giannis retires we're looking at another bleak 20 years.


Hell **** no I am trading Giannis everyone else I sure would. This team needs to start playing and developing their young players!!!


Most of the young players suck. You have to show something as a young player to get more playing time. Dre is afraid to shoot and Marjon looks like a preschooler running a fastbreak. The problem with the Bucks is that they need more talent around the edges. Crowder is a waste, Patty C. has become invisible Snell, Bobby is up and down more than a whore at a truck stop, and the "Dawg" that is Pat Bev is shooting 29% since joining the Bucks and his defense has been less than lock down.

In the NBA regular season you still need a bench to carry you through the dog days of the season and Horst has leveraged this team to hilt to get Jrue and Dame.
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Re: PG: Memphis Blues 

Post#169 » by MickeyDavis » Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:57 pm

I don't care how much money they have, at some point Edens and Haslam are going to stop lighting it on fire. That time could come this summer.
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Post#170 » by yannisk » Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:05 pm

We can trade Giannis to Thunder and get a ton of picks back
Some contender will overpay for Lillard

This will be enough to start anew. If you are a bit clever with Middleton and Brook trades we can end with a good young core in a couple of years



Alternatively we keep Giannis and trade everybody else
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Post#171 » by JayMKE » Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:11 pm

yannisk wrote:We can trade Giannis to Thunder and get a ton of picks back
Some contender will overpay for Lillard

This will be enough to start anew. If you are a bit clever with Middleton and Brook trades we can end with a good young core in a couple of years



Alternatively we keep Giannis and trade everybody else


You only really need to clear out the old overpaid guys, they can’t be core players with Giannis. Get guys that can catch & shoot and defend, its pretty damn simple.
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Post#172 » by soxperry » Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:12 pm

I can live with Dame losing a step.

But jesus dude. Show some fire! Hes not like Giannis, i guess we are just spoiled.

Its embarrassing but we tend to play very well against the best teams when healthy. So i really dont know what to think
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Post#173 » by GoldenAntlers » Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:14 pm

I'm not saying we NEED to trade Giannis. But another first round 1-4 loss and a total rebuild is on the table.
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Post#174 » by pifhluk23 » Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:19 pm

Someone on the team might need to call out Dame publicly, he's been unbelievably bad since January.
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Post#175 » by JayMKE » Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:20 pm

I’m not trading Giannis ever, there is no poo poo platter that comes close to his value. Horst needs to go, we need a different team building vision he’s **** up everything. Dont want or need him deciding another coach or what next old vet he wants. Maybe a demotion.
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Post#176 » by pifhluk23 » Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:21 pm

yannisk wrote:We can trade Giannis to Thunder and get a ton of picks back
Some contender will overpay for Lillard

This will be enough to start anew. If you are a bit clever with Middleton and Brook trades we can end with a good young core in a couple of years



Alternatively we keep Giannis and trade everybody else


if we crap the bed in the playoffs I would do Chet + picks. Giannis deserves a chance to win and he would be so good with SGA.
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Re: PG: Memphis Blues 

Post#177 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:22 pm

JayMKE wrote:Giannis is only guy we need to build around, everyone else can get shuffled out. Giannis + G Leaguers isn’t a much lower basement.


first of all... giannis is an alltime great but he like many other alltime greats is becoming more of alltime great numbers guy than alltime great winner.

basically....giannis does whatever the **** he likes and the bare minimum of whatever the **** he doesnt like and because of the numbers that makes him great. but like barkley said last night..... this is what happens when you play on talent and just run around doing whatever the **** you want with no commitment to system or directed effort.

so as it relates to his screens, his shot selection, his commitment to defense, positioning... all the little things he shows very little commitment..... and now throw in even picking who he wants as his teammates and coaches as has become the norm for superstars in this league....it calls into question his true and total impact and you cant remove that just because.... numbers and resume.

so thats a fact and its not going away and its also a big part of the problem we see here now. it needs to be baked into the reality of what this rosters true ceiling is.
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Re: PG: Memphis Blues 

Post#178 » by JayMKE » Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:27 pm

GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
JayMKE wrote:Giannis is only guy we need to build around, everyone else can get shuffled out. Giannis + G Leaguers isn’t a much lower basement.


giannis does whatever the **** he likes and the bare minimum of whatever the **** he doesnt like.

that relates his screens, his commitment to defense, who he wants as his teammates and coaches which calls into question even his loyalty to the franchise.

thats a fact and its not going away and its also a big part of the problem we see here now


No he’s not. Giannis is everything to this franchise, can’t blame him for Horst **** ups or Dame not wanting to be here.
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Re: PG: Memphis Blues 

Post#179 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:28 pm

JayMKE wrote:
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
JayMKE wrote:Giannis is only guy we need to build around, everyone else can get shuffled out. Giannis + G Leaguers isn’t a much lower basement.


giannis does whatever the **** he likes and the bare minimum of whatever the **** he doesnt like.

that relates his screens, his commitment to defense, who he wants as his teammates and coaches which calls into question even his loyalty to the franchise.

thats a fact and its not going away and its also a big part of the problem we see here now


No he’s not. Giannis is everything to this franchise, can’t blame him for Horst **** ups or Dame not wanting to be here.


of course hes everything. he even picks his coaches and teammates now. thats the point of my post

when a guy is the entire team and his impact is is in the front office, the coaching staff, and the floor and the team sucks then how do you remove him from accountability?

im not suggesting we trade him... at this point im like everybody else and im like well lets just wait for the playoffs and see wtf thats all about too. but if we fail and you start a rebuild one of the biggest mistakes is taking the one piece that can actually launch that rebuild and move him first? or last? i guess thats the question.
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Re: PG: Memphis Blues 

Post#180 » by fansinceforever » Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:31 pm

If we're even in the position of wanting to trade everyone on the roster except for Giannis then we're ****. A trade like that gets you no where.

If this group is done then Giannis's time in Milwaukee likely is too, unfortunately.

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