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Re: Giannis' Development 

Post#1621 » by M-C-G » Wed Jun 8, 2016 2:24 am

Shocked so many people feel so strongly he shouldn't play for Greece...how many hours a day does he need to be shooting? If there is one guy in the league that I feel confident is going to go above and beyond putting the work in, it's Giannis. Our team obviously is committed to his development by sending Sweeny with him.

His development last year was phenomenal and he was playing for the national team...so it can be done. Injury risk is my only real concern at this point. I'd fatigue too, but I am pretty confident he won't be playing any less basketball even if he didn't play on the national team.
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Post#1622 » by AussieBuck » Wed Jun 8, 2016 2:37 am

Have Greece added shooters to the roster this time around? Probably no point him playing this year if he's not on court with 3 perimeter shooters.
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Re: Giannis' Development 

Post#1623 » by M-C-G » Wed Jun 8, 2016 2:38 am

AussieBuck wrote:Have Greece added shooters to the roster this time around? Probably no point him playing this year if he's not on court with 3 perimeter shooters.


One could argue it would be good practice for the 2016 Bucks, unless you were joking and I just missed it
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Post#1624 » by AussieBuck » Wed Jun 8, 2016 2:42 am

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AussieBuck wrote:Have Greece added shooters to the roster this time around? Probably no point him playing this year if he's not on court with 3 perimeter shooters.


One could argue it would be good practice for the 2016 Bucks, unless you were joking and I just missed it

I'm assuming we'll go into next season with a less stupid fit for the supporting cast for the Bucks.

Last year when Giannis played for the national team it was just the guys that I assume were rated as the best players because they played a post PF who's name escapes me and a bunch of guards with dodgy jumpers with Giannis so he had no room to do anything on offense. At least the slow white Monta Ellis has retired from the team. :D
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Post#1625 » by truly » Wed Jun 8, 2016 3:00 am

AussieBuck wrote:Have Greece added shooters to the roster this time around? Probably no point him playing this year if he's not on court with 3 perimeter shooters.


The worst shooters of the team is Calathes and Giannis.The rest can shoot fairly well but they arent snipers either.From what is being said(from media following the team + the coach) if Giannis attends he is going to have the ball in his hands a lot more.We should wait to see the friendlies(23/6-26/6-28/6) first before coming to conclusions though.

The post PF you mention (Printezis) was one of the best players on the team but is injured and wont attend this year.That along with the "slow white Monta Ellis" :lol: retirement is the reason most of us think that there is no way Greece qualifies for the Olympics.Pretty hard to beat italy in their home ground with this lineup.

Thus the most probable senario is that Giannis will be free after 9/7 to train with the Bucks making everyone happy.
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Post#1626 » by turbostef » Wed Jun 8, 2016 6:10 am

Mirotic12 you are the biggest TROLL in every basketball forum I have ever joined (and there are lot's of them).

- Vasilakopoulos would never accept a Coach Giannakis? :lol: Giannakis WAS Coach from 2004-2008 :lol:
- Calathes is to blame for the losses against PRIME Spain in 2009 and 2010 :lol: the 20 year old Calathes that only played in 2009 because Papaloukas and Diamantidis were not available in 2009? The 21 year old Calathes in 2010 of 12 mpG which was our 3rd Guard after Spanoulis and Diamantidis? This is the most ridicoulous thing I have read for ages. And all this coming from a self called Panathinaikos Fan :lol:

I won't continue with "analyzing" the BS you write. It could get really really embarrasing for you :lol:

(And if you misses it: My "suggestion" of Kidd being the NT Coach was just a joke)

Giannis will not be the official team Captain. This is for traditional reasons of the oldest player being the captain
like in most NT's.
But he will be the Leader. Coach pointed this out severall times.
As he did regarding Giannis getting the ball more often (I hope he will stick to this).

As some fellow Greeks said: The most possible thing is that Giannis will return by the Mids of July. Until then he will be working of his Game and will not be on vacation. From a Bucks Fan of view this isn't a bad thing.

Lot's of NBA Players play pick up Games in Rukker Park or elsewhere in the off Season. I assume training on a professional
level with Bucks Staff around isn't a bad thing

@ Aussie
No we still have no elite Shooters and that is why we need Giannis to speed up the Game and give us easy Fast break Points.
We have to change our style of Game and that is why Giannis needs the ball. If the coach keeps his promise of getting Giannis
the Ball this could be a fun to watch tournament.

By the way: I really really hope that Tyler Dorsey (playing for Oregon) could develop into the elite shooter for the Grekk NT
(his grandfather is greek what makes his mother greek which makes him a greek. In Greece having a Greek Parent automatically gives you the right to have a greek passport). Not this year but maybe in 2-3 years.
Giannis at Point and Tyler at SG would be really fun to watch.


(One last thing to Mirotic (US Users can skip this): The greek basketball federation has a budget of around 5-8 Mio. EUROS.
And that is for everything (Youth teams, salary for staff, coaching for the WHOLE Year. That is the reason why we will never
have an elite Coach. Just because we can not pay him. That was the reason for Zouros, for Trinchieri and for Katsikaris being the coaches in the last years. The budget went constantly down since the crisis begun so blaming Vasilakopoulos for this is ridicoulous. (You can blame him for 1000 other things but not for this))
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Post#1627 » by turbostef » Wed Jun 8, 2016 6:12 am

@ GeoBar

Could you please enable PM's? :D
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Post#1628 » by turbostef » Wed Jun 8, 2016 6:14 am

I read thas Jabari has been invited to TEAM USA??!!

How could the Bucks demand from Giannis not to play for Greece when Jabari is playing for TEAM USA??!!!!!
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Post#1629 » by Prez » Wed Jun 8, 2016 6:24 am

turbostef wrote:I read thas Jabari has been invited to TEAM USA??!!

How could the Bucks demand from Giannis not to play for Greece when Jabari is playing for TEAM USA??!!!!!

The select team, not the actual Olympic roster. The select team is more like a big training camp for young players and training competition for the main roster. It's not the same as Giannis actually playing on the Greek NT for the Olympics.
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Post#1630 » by turbostef » Wed Jun 8, 2016 6:39 am

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turbostef wrote:I read thas Jabari has been invited to TEAM USA??!!

How could the Bucks demand from Giannis not to play for Greece when Jabari is playing for TEAM USA??!!!!!

The select team, not the actual Olympic roster. The select team is more like a big training camp for young players and training competition for the main roster. It's not the same as Giannis actually playing on the Greek NT for the Olympics.


Ah OK. Do you have further Infos about this? Who else is on that Team, how long will the Camp be and so on.

Will the Olympic Games Team USA Players will be there also? Or are this 2 completely different Team Camps?
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Post#1631 » by turbostef » Wed Jun 8, 2016 9:21 am

http://www.superbasket.gr/soou-apo-tzorntan-ke-gkali-sto-alexandrio-vid/

Here is a video of Nort Carolina and the Greek NT palying against in 1983

Jordan vs. Galis!

The game was not shown in TV. This video is from the staff of Nort Carolina which recorded the Game.
The tape was in the archive of Nort Carolina and has now been uploaded from someone to youtube.

That is historical (for Greeks) :lol: I think I have something to wacht today
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Post#1632 » by Prez » Wed Jun 8, 2016 9:29 am

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turbostef wrote:I read thas Jabari has been invited to TEAM USA??!!

How could the Bucks demand from Giannis not to play for Greece when Jabari is playing for TEAM USA??!!!!!

The select team, not the actual Olympic roster. The select team is more like a big training camp for young players and training competition for the main roster. It's not the same as Giannis actually playing on the Greek NT for the Olympics.


Ah OK. Do you have further Infos about this? Who else is on that Team, how long will the Camp be and so on.

Will the Olympic Games Team USA Players will be there also? Or are this 2 completely different Team Camps?

Yeah I think both teams will be there to some extent. The select team is all 1st-3rd year players and a few rookies, think of it like a development camp for potential future Olympic team players. They go through special practices and get to train with the Olympic roster kinda like practice competition.
Members of the USA Select Team will train daily with the USA National Team from July 18-21 (12:00-2:00 p.m. PDT) at UNLV’s Mendenhall Center. All practices are closed to the public.

http://www.usab.com/news-events/news/2016/06/2016-usa-mens-select-team.aspx
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Post#1633 » by Fresh_Prince12 » Wed Jun 8, 2016 10:36 am

turbostef wrote:I read thas Jabari has been invited to TEAM USA??!!

How could the Bucks demand from Giannis not to play for Greece when Jabari is playing for TEAM USA??!!!!!



To be fair Parker will be training with coach pop and some Spurs coaching staff and playing with/against the best talent in the world. Also it's in the same city where Jabari and the rest of the Bucks will be from summer league
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Post#1634 » by turbostef » Wed Jun 8, 2016 10:38 am

Hey! Coach Katsikaris is a Living Legend. Pop cannot mess with him! !! :D

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Post#1635 » by turbostef » Wed Jun 8, 2016 11:21 am

Giannis: If you read this

I just booked my tickets for the Qualification tournament in Italy

If you will not come to the National Team I will have to kill the Bucks Management and Owners.

Save their life :lol:
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Post#1636 » by randy84 » Wed Jun 8, 2016 11:39 am

Wow. This Giannis thread is like the Peloponnesian War all over again. Greek on Greek warfare.
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Post#1637 » by turbostef » Wed Jun 8, 2016 11:49 am

randy84 wrote:Wow. This Giannis thread is like the Peloponnesian War all over again. Greek on Greek warfare.


Why? Mirotic12 is not Greek ;)

And the rest of the Greek Users did not argue against each other
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Post#1638 » by greekbuck34 » Wed Jun 8, 2016 2:52 pm

Bucks4Milwaukee wrote:
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GeoBar wrote:Get out here
Nobody's working like Giannis
He was in L.A. for 10 days working with a specialist right after the season is over.
And he was every day at the gym while he was in Greece for almost 3 weeks(Sundays included) no matter if he was tired after the Antetokounmbros events.
Bucks' assistant coach(Sweeney) was with him both in L.A. and in Greece.
There is nothing to distract him from his goal.


None of that has anything to do with Greece's national team media obligations. The media has almost unlimited access to the national team, and Zisis, Spanoulis, and Bourousis have complained dozens of times that their training regimens were greatly disturbed by how many interviews they had to do. This is a fact, and Giannis' free time training away from the national team has zero relation to this fact.

He won't have time to shoot 10,000 jump shots a day while in Greece's national team, as some here are speculating. That's a fact. I am merely pointing that out, as some people here don't seem to be aware of the dynamics involved.


Nothing Greek NT belongs in this thread at all expect Giannis. No American cares about you're team, they care about Giannis. No offense, but I can't believe this thread has been allowed to be filled with so much crap either. Giannis will be the captain if he wants to be. He'll play for the national team if he wants to. All I care about is following Giannis' stats when he does play. He's going to win a championship for the Bucks, not the Greek NT.

Argue about Giannis, that's it. Every other post about your national team doesn't belong here. It belongs on your Greek NT forums...

About Giannis recent statements about being loyal to Milwaukee and his aspirations for a championship are great. The kid has drive to be the best. Only he or injury can stop that. He's like the modern day Penny Hardaway.. On steroids!

Go Bucks


Atm, as long as he stays for 5 more years in Milwaukee and considering the competition on the NBA, Gianni's first trofey most likely will/could be with the Greek NT(European Championship) than with the Bucks and thats not a bad thing at all. It will probably enchance his thirst for success with his team and make him try even harder.
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Post#1639 » by pe_it72 » Wed Jun 8, 2016 3:20 pm

greekbuck34 wrote:News about the NT started to come out recently we may know for sure what Giannis will do soon.

Printezis is out of the pre Olympics 100% which makes things even harder so the most probable scenario for Giannis if he finaly joins in is just to be unavailable for the Bucks until 9 of July and no more.

He will have what, 2 full months free for practice?

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Why are you taking it personally? He's not attacking you. He's talking about a basketball player.


Probably because he is our first international troll........the very worst kind of troll


@pe_it72
I'm not going to continue this. I will just put everyboby like you into the ignore list like a true "troll" reaction. 8-) As I ve noticed right now most of you have just a few posts and didn't even bother to put an avatar to your account.
Interesting... :noway:

It's really sad though.
I guess they are coming from trashplace insidehoops where this behavior is common.

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I explained my reasons. For plenty of greeks and especially for Olympiakos supporters Spanoulis is not just a basketball player. I don't want you to like him but I just don't want to read trash about him while I'm looking for news on Giannis thread. If you want to throw trash at him make another thread where I won't visit at all.
All of that started from Mirotic/Euroleague and instead of deleting his post or getting ignored by everyone who doesnt want to read his ****, his victims gathered around and fell on his trap making posts after posts about spanoulis just to feed the troll ignoring the rest of normal greek posters/milwaukee fans who also got hurt by this just because they visited this thread to read news about Giannis..


I was referring to Lazy potato you internet psyco bully
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Post#1640 » by freewhitemoon » Wed Jun 8, 2016 3:37 pm

drama in here is juicy

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