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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Thanasis back 

Post#1621 » by SupremeHustle » Tue Aug 1, 2023 2:57 pm

blazza18 wrote:The Thanasis might have actually signed for the Knicks report is so unbelievable haha.

Anyway let's talk about something that actually matters to the Bucks winning games and that's what the hell are we looking to do as Jrue's backup? So far the players being thrown around are guys on two way contracts or a second round rookie who can't shoot? Or Dragic who isn't even on the roster.


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Post#1622 » by SirChurros » Tue Aug 1, 2023 3:04 pm

RogerMurdock wrote:One of the oddest things about the Thanasis hand-wringing is that people think that the Bucks keeping him means that Giannis is a baby or that he's threatened to leave if they don't sign his brother or something. I HIGHLY doubt this is the case. It's just an extra thing the front office can do that hurts nobody. Hell, it sounds like Thanasis could've gone to the Knicks if he wanted.

Plus, everybody on the team seems to love Thanasis and that's worth something. Every team has deep bench players who only play in garbage time. Why not have it be the star's brother who is a fantastic teammate? Man, I would love to be around somebody who made my work environment better every day.


I honestly don’t care at all about Thanasis being on the roster, but I’d bet a lot of people who were crying about Alex Lasry being employed because of his last name are the same ones who are fine with Thanasis being employed because of his. At least be consistent.

And before anyone says it’s different, it’s not. Neither person is/was qualified for his position.
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Post#1623 » by JayMKE » Tue Aug 1, 2023 3:28 pm

Considering the plan rn for this team seems to be blow our wad and hope Giannis is more loyal to Milwaukee than want to win someplace else in 2 years I think playing to sentiment might be a better bet than trying to call his bluff. Signing Thanasis seems like an easy cost effective way to keep Giannis comfortable even if you think he contributes nothing else being on the team which I disagree with.
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Post#1624 » by emunney » Tue Aug 1, 2023 3:33 pm

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RogerMurdock wrote:One of the oddest things about the Thanasis hand-wringing is that people think that the Bucks keeping him means that Giannis is a baby or that he's threatened to leave if they don't sign his brother or something. I HIGHLY doubt this is the case. It's just an extra thing the front office can do that hurts nobody. Hell, it sounds like Thanasis could've gone to the Knicks if he wanted.

Plus, everybody on the team seems to love Thanasis and that's worth something. Every team has deep bench players who only play in garbage time. Why not have it be the star's brother who is a fantastic teammate? Man, I would love to be around somebody who made my work environment better every day.


I honestly don’t care at all about Thanasis being on the roster, but I’d bet a lot of people who were crying about Alex Lasry being employed because of his last name are the same ones who are fine with Thanasis being employed because of his. At least be consistent.

And before anyone says it’s different, it’s not. Neither person is/was qualified for his position.


It's different because Giannis operating at peak capacity is of paramount importance to team success and Marc Lasry operating at peak capacity meant more high stakes poker for Marc Lasry.
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Post#1625 » by JayMKE » Tue Aug 1, 2023 3:40 pm

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RogerMurdock wrote:One of the oddest things about the Thanasis hand-wringing is that people think that the Bucks keeping him means that Giannis is a baby or that he's threatened to leave if they don't sign his brother or something. I HIGHLY doubt this is the case. It's just an extra thing the front office can do that hurts nobody. Hell, it sounds like Thanasis could've gone to the Knicks if he wanted.

Plus, everybody on the team seems to love Thanasis and that's worth something. Every team has deep bench players who only play in garbage time. Why not have it be the star's brother who is a fantastic teammate? Man, I would love to be around somebody who made my work environment better every day.


I honestly don’t care at all about Thanasis being on the roster, but I’d bet a lot of people who were crying about Alex Lasry being employed because of his last name are the same ones who are fine with Thanasis being employed because of his. At least be consistent.

And before anyone says it’s different, it’s not. Neither person is/was qualified for his position.


One is the carpetbagging media leaking son of our billionaire assbag clout chasing former co-owner and the other is the brother of our MVP being the 15th man, should be easy to understand.
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Post#1626 » by jimmybones » Tue Aug 1, 2023 3:43 pm

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Prez wrote:Does Giannis’ “antigravity” on defense extend to when he’s on the bench and Lopez is on the floor without him?

Because when you filter out any Mamu/Nwora minutes, we had a 107.8 DRTG in minutes with Brook on court *without* Giannis this past year, in a 1000+ minute sample. To put that into perspective the #1 D in the league was 109.9 DRTG.


Dude quit cherry picking stats.
Imagine being a Center and Brook guards you ... you see Giannis ready to help defend the rim... do you attack the rim regardless or take more distant shots and hooks ... that is something stats never shows.

I guess you have played basketball ... when opponent has a freak on D guarding the rim, you adjust your game, even though you know you can beat your opponent, your mind knows that freak will be there.


Cherry picking stats? :lol: The stat literally looks at minutes Lopez plays without Giannis.

No one is arguing Giannis's impact but implying his existence is the only reason for Brook's effectiveness is goofy.
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Post#1627 » by Ron Swanson » Tue Aug 1, 2023 3:53 pm

If you had to be "qualified at your job" to occupy an NBA roster spot, then anywhere from 100-150 end-of-bench scrubs, 2nd round picks, plus undrafted & 10-day contract guys that inevitably log NBA minutes every single season wouldn't have jobs.
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Post#1628 » by jschligs » Tue Aug 1, 2023 4:15 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:If you had to be "qualified at your job" to occupy an NBA roster spot, then anywhere from 100-150 end-of-bench scrubs, 2nd round picks, plus undrafted & 10-day contract guys that inevitably log NBA minutes every single season wouldn't have jobs.


End of bench guys usually have a unique skill/reason rather than being a qualified player deserving of minutes. You have your "potential guys" (2nd round picks, etc.) and your "value added outside of actual playing guys" (Haslem, Thanasis). It's really not that hard to understand, but most folks here will fight it till the death.
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Post#1629 » by Dick Tate » Tue Aug 1, 2023 6:03 pm

Could be the team likes the attitude and energy he brings to practice.
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Post#1630 » by WeekapaugGroove » Tue Aug 1, 2023 7:36 pm

benultimate wrote:Bring back Dragan Bender I say
He's playing pretty well in Europe. I always thought if he filled out physically he could come back and actually be a decent role player.

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Post#1631 » by chonestown » Tue Aug 1, 2023 7:36 pm

If what Thanasis does could be captured on a score sheet, we wouldn't be having this conversation tbqh.
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Post#1632 » by WeekapaugGroove » Tue Aug 1, 2023 7:40 pm

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Ron Swanson wrote:If you had to be "qualified at your job" to occupy an NBA roster spot, then anywhere from 100-150 end-of-bench scrubs, 2nd round picks, plus undrafted & 10-day contract guys that inevitably log NBA minutes every single season wouldn't have jobs.


End of bench guys usually have a unique skill/reason rather than being a qualified player deserving of minutes. You have your "potential guys" (2nd round picks, etc.) and your "value added outside of actual playing guys" (Haslem, Thanasis). It's really not that hard to understand, but most folks here will fight it till the death.
I honestly think the NBA sickos on here care about the 15th man more than actual teams do :)

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Post#1633 » by buckboy » Tue Aug 1, 2023 8:04 pm

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jschligs wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:If you had to be "qualified at your job" to occupy an NBA roster spot, then anywhere from 100-150 end-of-bench scrubs, 2nd round picks, plus undrafted & 10-day contract guys that inevitably log NBA minutes every single season wouldn't have jobs.


End of bench guys usually have a unique skill/reason rather than being a qualified player deserving of minutes. You have your "potential guys" (2nd round picks, etc.) and your "value added outside of actual playing guys" (Haslem, Thanasis). It's really not that hard to understand, but most folks here will fight it till the death.
I honestly think the NBA sickos on here care about the 15th man more than actual teams do :)

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Post#1634 » by Jimmmycrackcorn » Tue Aug 1, 2023 8:13 pm

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RogerMurdock wrote:One of the oddest things about the Thanasis hand-wringing is that people think that the Bucks keeping him means that Giannis is a baby or that he's threatened to leave if they don't sign his brother or something. I HIGHLY doubt this is the case. It's just an extra thing the front office can do that hurts nobody. Hell, it sounds like Thanasis could've gone to the Knicks if he wanted.

Plus, everybody on the team seems to love Thanasis and that's worth something. Every team has deep bench players who only play in garbage time. Why not have it be the star's brother who is a fantastic teammate? Man, I would love to be around somebody who made my work environment better every day.


I honestly don’t care at all about Thanasis being on the roster, but I’d bet a lot of people who were crying about Alex Lasry being employed because of his last name are the same ones who are fine with Thanasis being employed because of his. At least be consistent.

And before anyone says it’s different, it’s not. Neither person is/was qualified for his position.



Solid point

But there is a big difference between being the senior vice president of the team vs. the 15th roster spot
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Post#1635 » by KendallMarshall » Wed Aug 2, 2023 1:35 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:People have very strong opinions on whether Thanasis or dudes like Georgios Kalatzaikas and Justin Jackson should be the designated bench towel-waver.

Or, you know, we could actually use that roster spot on someone useful.
Cripes we just let Wes Matthews, whose still a good 3 and d guy to this day, sign elsewhere because thanasis just has to have a roster spot.
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Post#1636 » by Prez » Wed Aug 2, 2023 2:07 pm

I am okay with the org bringing back Thanasis if they feel he’s legitimately a positive for the team (vibes/locker room presence) and Giannis really wants him there.

What I disagree with is this dismissiveness regarding the last couple roster spots. We’ve seen too many examples of the top shelf organizations finding these unknown dudes off the scrap heap or in the G League or undrafted rookies and turning them into legit rotation players. While I get why they brought Thanasis back there is nothing wrong with others hoping they used that roster spot on a younger guy with flashes of being a real player.
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Post#1637 » by JayMKE » Wed Aug 2, 2023 2:15 pm

The only reason I'd be sad to see Wes go is not seeing his wrestling rematch with fellow bench jester Robin Lopez, he's not a good 3&D guy with any consistency and is going to be 37 this upcoming season so he's more a veteran presence aka value off the court. Thanasis is on par with what I'd expect out of a 15th man and hasn't usually been the worst guy over the time he's been here, obviously if Giannis didn't want him here then he wouldn't be either and its going to be 5 seasons now so my guess its important to Giannis.
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Post#1638 » by Ryan5UW » Wed Aug 2, 2023 2:30 pm

If things get to the point where Thanasis being the 15th guy on the roster actually has a significant impact on the season, things went severely wrong way before that and nobody we could have for that roster spot would make a bit of difference anyway.
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Post#1639 » by raferfenix » Wed Aug 2, 2023 2:50 pm

Prez wrote:We’ve seen too many examples of the top shelf organizations finding these unknown dudes off the scrap heap or in the G League or undrafted rookies and turning them into legit rotation players.


I agree there's a problem for the Bucks to fix considering how few young talents we identified and developed during the Bud / Horst tenure.

That said, I think the advent of 2-way contracts makes this much less of an issue of not having enough roster spots. AJ Green was just developed that way and earned a regular contract for that matter.

Think the problem is more about commitment to youth development as opposed to limited roster spots.
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Post#1640 » by engelmartin » Wed Aug 2, 2023 3:54 pm

While some of us may not believe the report that the Knicks had an offer on the table for Thanasis, remember that it is the Knicks we are talking about. One decent season last year doesn't shed their historical title of the laughing stock of the NBA.

Jared Jeffries five-year/$30 million.

Jerome James five-year/$30 million.

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