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Re: ATL - Rose to Cavs - pg 70 

Post#1641 » by HurricaneKid » Thu Aug 10, 2017 4:34 pm

The guy has 175M in career earnings and will make another 24M over the next two years. Intent to distribute because he has $400 in weed on him seems like a ridiculous charge but that is certainly how these things work. You can't argue you were going to USE that much so really you were likely distributing it.
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Re: ATL - Rose to Cavs - pg 70 

Post#1642 » by DingleJerry » Thu Aug 10, 2017 4:38 pm

HurricaneKid wrote:The guy has 175M in career earnings and will make another 24M over the next two years. Intent to distribute because he has $400 in weed on him seems like a ridiculous charge but that is certainly how these things work. You can't argue you were going to USE that much so really you were likely distributing it.


I think Zbo could easily argue that he was going to use all that weed. He could probably outline a long history supporting the argument, haha. Throw in that he probably has 4-5 boys hanging around at all times and they can burn that up pretty quickly. Weed rules our outdated and just stupid at this point.
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Re: ATL - Rose to Cavs - pg 70 

Post#1643 » by emunney » Thu Aug 10, 2017 4:41 pm

Intent to distribute charges are based entirely on weight and not on whether or not the person could smoke all that weed. The law itself is supposed to be based on that. Yet you can buy all the toilet paper at Costco you want and nobody asks for a vendor's license. I know because I have tried to get busted for buying too much toilet paper.
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Re: ATL - Rose to Cavs - pg 70 

Post#1644 » by ackypoo » Thu Aug 10, 2017 4:47 pm

DingleJerry wrote:
HurricaneKid wrote:The guy has 175M in career earnings and will make another 24M over the next two years. Intent to distribute because he has $400 in weed on him seems like a ridiculous charge but that is certainly how these things work. You can't argue you were going to USE that much so really you were likely distributing it.


I think Zbo could easily argue that he was going to use all that weed. He could probably outline a long history supporting the argument, haha. Throw in that he probably has 4-5 boys hanging around at all times and they can burn that up pretty quickly. Weed rules our outdated and just stupid at this point.

so intent to distribute.

not to get into the political realm here, but what a stupid law.
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Re: ATL - Rose to Cavs - pg 70 

Post#1645 » by HurricaneKid » Thu Aug 10, 2017 4:50 pm

DingleJerry wrote:
HurricaneKid wrote:The guy has 175M in career earnings and will make another 24M over the next two years. Intent to distribute because he has $400 in weed on him seems like a ridiculous charge but that is certainly how these things work. You can't argue you were going to USE that much so really you were likely distributing it.


I think Zbo could easily argue that he was going to use all that weed. He could probably outline a long history supporting the argument, haha. Throw in that he probably has 4-5 boys hanging around at all times and they can burn that up pretty quickly. Weed rules our outdated and just stupid at this point.


The inconsistency in federal vs state laws are certainly impacting things but it does appear that something else was going on.

In CA its not a felony unless:

1. He was selling to minors
2. He was using minors to sell
3. He was bringing the MJ in or out of the state
4. Prior intent to sell offenses

Sounds like there was a big party. Maybe a few HSes got involved or something.

EDIT: Intent to distribute doesn't necessarily mean sell. Just giving drugs away is illegal, especially if done on a wide basis.
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Re: ATL - Rose to Cavs - pg 70 

Post#1646 » by DingleJerry » Thu Aug 10, 2017 4:56 pm

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DingleJerry wrote:
HurricaneKid wrote:The guy has 175M in career earnings and will make another 24M over the next two years. Intent to distribute because he has $400 in weed on him seems like a ridiculous charge but that is certainly how these things work. You can't argue you were going to USE that much so really you were likely distributing it.


I think Zbo could easily argue that he was going to use all that weed. He could probably outline a long history supporting the argument, haha. Throw in that he probably has 4-5 boys hanging around at all times and they can burn that up pretty quickly. Weed rules our outdated and just stupid at this point.

so intent to distribute.

not to get into the political realm here, but what a stupid law.


I guess I take intent to distribute as selling. I assumed that's what it was about, but maybe I'm wrong. I just didn't think him smoking with his bros would count as distributing. But like I said, I just always assumed that's the way the law was, I've never had to deal with it.
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Re: ATL - Rose to Cavs - pg 70 

Post#1647 » by Bucksfan28 » Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:07 pm

Irrationally stupid rule. Thankfully social perception has evolved and this won't be a character indictment of ZBo like it would've been in the past.
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Re: ATL - Rose to Cavs - pg 70 

Post#1648 » by Chapter29 » Thu Aug 10, 2017 6:47 pm

HurricaneKid wrote:The guy has 175M in career earnings and will make another 24M over the next two years. Intent to distribute because he has $400 in weed on him seems like a ridiculous charge but that is certainly how these things work. You can't argue you were going to USE that much so really you were likely distributing it.


That's all he had? Ah, he'll get off as long as he didn't have it broken down into small amounts. Doesn't sound like he was actually trying to sell.
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Re: ATL - Rose to Cavs - pg 70 

Post#1649 » by El Duderino » Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:13 pm

HurricaneKid wrote:The guy has 175M in career earnings and will make another 24M over the next two years. Intent to distribute because he has $400 in weed on him seems like a ridiculous charge but that is certainly how these things work. You can't argue you were going to USE that much so really you were likely distributing it.


My guess is this

Randolph buys weed in bulk because it's cheaper and with his financial resources, gives some to buddies for free or just buys a few ounces at a times and uses it to party with when hanging with his buddies.

When you say 400 dollars worth of weed, that's only about an ounce and a half or two ounces. Plenty of people buy that much for themselves, especially when a person has money smokes a lot as he likely does.

He's rich as hell, so when he buys bud, he's not going to bother buying small amounts like 1/4 or 1/2 ounces at a time because that's all he can afford as is the case for many people who smoke it.
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Re: ATL - Rose to Cavs - pg 70 

Post#1650 » by M-C-G » Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:23 pm

El Duderino wrote:
HurricaneKid wrote:The guy has 175M in career earnings and will make another 24M over the next two years. Intent to distribute because he has $400 in weed on him seems like a ridiculous charge but that is certainly how these things work. You can't argue you were going to USE that much so really you were likely distributing it.


My guess is this

Randolph buys weed in bulk because it's cheaper and with his financial resources, gives some to buddies for free or just buys a few ounces at a times and uses it to party with when hanging with his buddies.

When you say 400 dollars worth of weed, that's only about an ounce and a half or two ounces. Plenty of people buy that much for themselves, especially when a person has money smokes a lot as he likely does.

He's rich as hell, so when he buys bud, he's not going to bother buying small amounts like 1/4 or 1/2 ounces at a time because that's all he can afford as is the case for many people who smoke it.


Personally I don't care about if people want to smoke weed, to each their own. The real concern here is a guy that has made 175M, and has 25M on the line, was too dumb to get his buddy to buy it for him.
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Re: ATL - Rose to Cavs - pg 70 

Post#1651 » by emunney » Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:57 pm

M-C-G wrote:
El Duderino wrote:
HurricaneKid wrote:The guy has 175M in career earnings and will make another 24M over the next two years. Intent to distribute because he has $400 in weed on him seems like a ridiculous charge but that is certainly how these things work. You can't argue you were going to USE that much so really you were likely distributing it.


My guess is this

Randolph buys weed in bulk because it's cheaper and with his financial resources, gives some to buddies for free or just buys a few ounces at a times and uses it to party with when hanging with his buddies.

When you say 400 dollars worth of weed, that's only about an ounce and a half or two ounces. Plenty of people buy that much for themselves, especially when a person has money smokes a lot as he likely does.

He's rich as hell, so when he buys bud, he's not going to bother buying small amounts like 1/4 or 1/2 ounces at a time because that's all he can afford as is the case for many people who smoke it.


Personally I don't care about if people want to smoke weed, to each their own. The real concern here is a guy that has made 175M, and has 25M on the line, was too dumb to get his buddy to buy it for him.


How does he have 25m on the line? If he complies with the NBA protocol, he gets it all. Doesn't matter.
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Re: ATL - Rose to Cavs - pg 70 

Post#1652 » by paulpressey25 » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:02 pm

MikeIsGood wrote:Randolph kept his act together well in Memphis and became quite loved there (and a good story). It took him all of about a month outside of the organization to get into trouble again.

Hope this one is overblown.


Good observation. He kept himself out of trouble in Memphis and being back in CA is too much for him.

Alternate theory - Memphis law enforcement were big Grizzlies fans.
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Re: ATL - Rose to Cavs - pg 70 

Post#1653 » by Chapter29 » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:15 pm

M-C-G wrote:
El Duderino wrote:
HurricaneKid wrote:The guy has 175M in career earnings and will make another 24M over the next two years. Intent to distribute because he has $400 in weed on him seems like a ridiculous charge but that is certainly how these things work. You can't argue you were going to USE that much so really you were likely distributing it.


My guess is this

Randolph buys weed in bulk because it's cheaper and with his financial resources, gives some to buddies for free or just buys a few ounces at a times and uses it to party with when hanging with his buddies.

When you say 400 dollars worth of weed, that's only about an ounce and a half or two ounces. Plenty of people buy that much for themselves, especially when a person has money smokes a lot as he likely does.

He's rich as hell, so when he buys bud, he's not going to bother buying small amounts like 1/4 or 1/2 ounces at a time because that's all he can afford as is the case for many people who smoke it.


Personally I don't care about if people want to smoke weed, to each their own. The real concern here is a guy that has made 175M, and has 25M on the line, was too dumb to get his buddy to buy it for him.


It didn't say he bought it. It said he had it. So he's too dumb to have his buddies carry his weed.
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Re: ATL - Rose to Cavs - pg 70 

Post#1654 » by FlagsFlyForever » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:23 pm

emunney wrote:
M-C-G wrote:
El Duderino wrote:
My guess is this

Randolph buys weed in bulk because it's cheaper and with his financial resources, gives some to buddies for free or just buys a few ounces at a times and uses it to party with when hanging with his buddies.

When you say 400 dollars worth of weed, that's only about an ounce and a half or two ounces. Plenty of people buy that much for themselves, especially when a person has money smokes a lot as he likely does.

He's rich as hell, so when he buys bud, he's not going to bother buying small amounts like 1/4 or 1/2 ounces at a time because that's all he can afford as is the case for many people who smoke it.


Personally I don't care about if people want to smoke weed, to each their own. The real concern here is a guy that has made 175M, and has 25M on the line, was too dumb to get his buddy to buy it for him.


How does he have 25m on the line? If he complies with the NBA protocol, he gets it all. Doesn't matter.

They can't suspend him without pay for this?
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Re: ATL - Rose to Cavs - pg 70 

Post#1655 » by BroncoBuck » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:23 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:
MikeIsGood wrote:Randolph kept his act together well in Memphis and became quite loved there (and a good story). It took him all of about a month outside of the organization to get into trouble again.

Hope this one is overblown.


Good observation. He kept himself out of trouble in Memphis and being back in CA is too much for him.



Alternate theory - Memphis law enforcement were big Grizzlies fans.


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Re: ATL - Rose to Cavs - pg 70 

Post#1656 » by Jez2983 » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:35 pm

emunney wrote:Intent to distribute charges are based entirely on weight and not on whether or not the person could smoke all that weed. The law itself is supposed to be based on that. Yet you can buy all the toilet paper at Costco you want and nobody asks for a vendor's license. I know because I have tried to get busted for buying too much toilet paper.


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Post#1657 » by emunney » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:38 pm

ElPeregrino wrote:
emunney wrote:
M-C-G wrote:
Personally I don't care about if people want to smoke weed, to each their own. The real concern here is a guy that has made 175M, and has 25M on the line, was too dumb to get his buddy to buy it for him.


How does he have 25m on the line? If he complies with the NBA protocol, he gets it all. Doesn't matter.

They can't suspend him without pay for this?
Not beyond what's outlined in the CBA. If he hasn't been in the marijuana program before, there's no penalty for a first offense, 25k league fine for the 2nd, and 5 game suspension for the third. 5 additional games for each beyond that. Plus you have to comply with the program. But he has to be convicted before it'd even count as a violation.
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Post#1658 » by FlagsFlyForever » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:44 pm

emunney wrote:
ElPeregrino wrote:
emunney wrote:
How does he have 25m on the line? If he complies with the NBA protocol, he gets it all. Doesn't matter.

They can't suspend him without pay for this?
Not beyond what's outlined in the CBA. If he hasn't been in the marijuana program before, there's no penalty for a first offense, 25k league fine for the 2nd, and 5 game suspension for the third. 5 additional games for each beyond that. Plus you have to comply with the program. But he has to be convicted before it'd even count as a violation.

I thought this was different because it's felony intent to distribute.

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A player will be dismissed and disqualified from the NBA if he is convicted of, or pleads guilty, no contest or nolo contendre to, a crime involving the felony distribution of marijuana.




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Re: ATL - Rose to Cavs - pg 70 

Post#1659 » by M-C-G » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:27 pm

emunney wrote:
ElPeregrino wrote:
emunney wrote:
How does he have 25m on the line? If he complies with the NBA protocol, he gets it all. Doesn't matter.

They can't suspend him without pay for this?
Not beyond what's outlined in the CBA. If he hasn't been in the marijuana program before, there's no penalty for a first offense, 25k league fine for the 2nd, and 5 game suspension for the third. 5 additional games for each beyond that. Plus you have to comply with the program. But he has to be convicted before it'd even count as a violation.


So he is lucky the ink just dried on his deal or it would have cost him, pending the rules around the new CBA where I think they put a Larry Sanders rule into as I recall.


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Re: ATL - Rose to Cavs - pg 70 

Post#1660 » by jute2003 » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:48 pm

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