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Re: OT: TV and Movies (with spoilers) 

Post#1641 » by jakecronus8 » Sat Jan 4, 2020 8:39 am

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ReasonablySober wrote:The big issue with the last trilogy is Johnson gave way for a unique story that would have breathed new life into the franchise, and Abrams **** all over it. It bums me out to think of what we could have gotten with another Johnson film.

How do you see that ending?


Oh man. Considering how he had nothing of substance happen in TLJ, it would’ve been hilarious seeing him try to wrap up the series.
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Post#1642 » by wapith » Sat Jan 4, 2020 2:29 pm

Did anything of substance happen in the entire new trilogy?
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Post#1643 » by crkone » Sat Jan 4, 2020 3:39 pm

wapith wrote:Did anything of substance happen in the entire new trilogy?
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Re: OT: TV and Movies (with spoilers) 

Post#1644 » by BUCKnation » Sun Jan 5, 2020 12:29 am

jakecronus8 wrote:
DavidDunn21 wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:The big issue with the last trilogy is Johnson gave way for a unique story that would have breathed new life into the franchise, and Abrams **** all over it. It bums me out to think of what we could have gotten with another Johnson film.

How do you see that ending?


Oh man. Considering how he had nothing of substance happen in TLJ, it would’ve been hilarious seeing him try to wrap up the series.

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Post#1645 » by Bucksfan28 » Mon Jan 6, 2020 4:53 pm

Super late to the party but I finally watched Drive in its entirety, what a great flick. Nothing gets me charged like an epic intro:

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Post#1646 » by MickeyDavis » Mon Jan 6, 2020 5:31 pm

Forgot that the latest Peaky Blinders season dropped. Four episodes (out of only 6) in. Love it.
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Post#1647 » by Mags FTW » Mon Jan 6, 2020 5:54 pm

Bucksfan28 wrote:Super late to the party but I finally watched Drive in its entirety

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Post#1648 » by humanrefutation » Mon Jan 6, 2020 6:57 pm

wapith wrote:Did anything of substance happen in the entire new trilogy?


Amazingly, the new trilogy actually made the prior six films worse because of how it retconned the end of ROTJ.

The more I think about it, the more annoyed I've become, IMO.
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Post#1649 » by Bucksfan28 » Mon Jan 6, 2020 7:29 pm

Mags FTW wrote:
Bucksfan28 wrote:Super late to the party but I finally watched Drive in its entirety



Accurate. I've also never seen Heat...
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Post#1650 » by FrieAaron » Mon Jan 6, 2020 7:55 pm

Bucksfan28 wrote:Accurate. I've also never seen Heat...


You should. "Drive" is great; it's unfortunate that Winding Refn hasn't matched it yet.
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Post#1651 » by blazza18 » Mon Jan 6, 2020 9:35 pm

I thought the only good part of Drive was the opening.
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Post#1652 » by Bucksfan28 » Mon Jan 6, 2020 10:16 pm

blazza18 wrote:I thought the only good part of Drive was the opening.


Took me a minute to embrace Gosling's autistic(?) character. But he was consistently good with it and my appreciation grew as things progressed.
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Post#1653 » by Bucksfan28 » Mon Jan 6, 2020 10:33 pm

Iheartfootball wrote:Watched ‘The King’ on Netflix last night. Besides a really solid performance by Timothée Chalamet it was well written by Joel Edgerton and David Michôd. I find English history fascinating (even though this was based very loosely on that as well as Shakespearean plays; a kind of mashup). The universal theme of the sins of the father passed onto the next generation are powerful to me (with a bit of a twist). I liked how they they explored how King Henry wrestles with that throughout the film. There were some good action sequences. A final battle scene that wasn’t too drawn out. One of the few Netflix films like that I truly enjoyed. Give it a shot if that’s your thing.



Burning through my queue and checked this one out today. I really enjoyed it for what seem to be the same reasons you did (English history, Henry's struggle). I'd take it a step further for Chalamet and say he is unexpectedly stellar. The rest of the cast, namely Edgerton and Pattinson, also bring it. And even though action is limited those scenes are intense.
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Re: OT: TV and Movies (with spoilers) 

Post#1654 » by HaroldinGMinor » Mon Jan 6, 2020 10:49 pm

The soundtrack for Drive was great. And not to be pretentious film nerd, but the framing in that movie is worth exploring if you ever have a chance to watch it again.

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Post#1655 » by humanrefutation » Tue Jan 7, 2020 4:42 pm

So, I went ahead and finished Watchmen.

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And yeah, I think a combination of the exposition in the final few episodes and the time I spent refreshing my memory over the events of the original novel helped make the experience a lot more profound to me. Regina King, Hong Chau, Yahya Abdul Mateen II, and Jeremy Irons were especially fantastic, as was Faithe Herman (young Angela).

But I think the way it sort of all stitched together in Episode 9 almost felt like it robbed me of an opportunity to fully appreciate the dynamics of the relationships of the main characters to the story. I would have liked more time with Dr. Manhattan and Angela Abar than we ended up getting, and more time exploring the motivations behind Lady Trieu's desire for power (especially in terms of her upbringing in Occupied Vietnam and the experiences of her mother). I would have liked more time with Old Man Will Reeves to explore his perception of the world he's living in.

It's like when everything came together, and all the identities and motivations underpinning the key characters were finally exposed in the last couple episodes, we didn't have enough time to let it breathe a bit because they had to rush to finish the story.

I hope they bring this show back with Goddess Angela Abar, as I think it would be fascinating to see her explore her new powers in a world still teeming with hatred, fear, and hostility. Perhaps she would have done more to address injustice than her war criminal of a husband - perhaps she would have been what Lady Trieu allegedly wanted to become - or maybe, just like Veidt suspected with his daughter, she would have been corrupted by it all.
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Re: OT: TV and Movies (with spoilers) 

Post#1656 » by emunney » Tue Jan 7, 2020 4:51 pm

FrieAaron wrote:
Bucksfan28 wrote:Accurate. I've also never seen Heat...


You should. "Drive" is great; it's unfortunate that Winding Refn hasn't matched it yet.


I thought Bronson and Valhalla Rising were both good and memorable and *different*, but pre-Drive.
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Re: OT: TV and Movies (with spoilers) 

Post#1657 » by ReasonablySober » Wed Jan 8, 2020 1:09 am

I would have done pretty well in that opening round of Jeopardy. Questions seemed easier than normal.
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Re: OT: TV and Movies (with spoilers) 

Post#1658 » by MissKhriddleton » Wed Jan 8, 2020 4:44 am

So Comedy Central recycled the Colin Quinn Tough Crowd show with David Spade. It's surprisingly bad.
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Post#1659 » by humanrefutation » Wed Jan 8, 2020 5:44 am

The Two Popes is really good.
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Re: OT: TV and Movies (with spoilers) 

Post#1660 » by RRyder823 » Wed Jan 8, 2020 8:11 am

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DavidDunn21 wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:The big issue with the last trilogy is Johnson gave way for a unique story that would have breathed new life into the franchise, and Abrams **** all over it. It bums me out to think of what we could have gotten with another Johnson film.

How do you see that ending?


Oh man. Considering how he had nothing of substance happen in TLJ, it would’ve been hilarious seeing him try to wrap up the series.
Yeah. All I've heard from fans of TLJ is that JJ shouldve stuck with what was set up in the second film..... Problem is all it did was rear down what had been set up in TFA. The same problems remain for the final movie.... Mainly you have to rush through the first half the movie jamming in plot points that should of been set up in the 2nd movie and the trilogies finale feels clustered and rushed.

TLJ could of worked as the 1st movie of a trilogy but as the 2nd, which should effectively be a bridge to the 3rd setting up plot points for a satisfying conclusion, it failed utterly miserably

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