Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas -Trade Deadline Thursday 2 pm CT

[PG Graveyard]

Marc Stein made a big deal in that podcast about how the Mavs barely have anyone playing over 6’7 and desperately need size.

Idk the extent to which Grant Williams solves our problems but Eric Nehm floating a straight swap with Bobby very well might be a trial balloon on behalf of the team.

Horst also has experience with Jason Kidd not quite maximizing players’ potential if the bet is that’s related to Grant Williams’ decline after getting paid.

For the Bucks, trading for Williams would be an opportunity to try to trade for a distressed asset. Williams is three years younger than Portis and has one more year on his contract than Portis, who has a $13.4 million player option for the 2025-26 season. With the Celtics, Williams showed an ability to bother some of the league’s top scoring wings, which could end up being helpful for the Bucks in the postseason.

https://theathletic.com/5215735/2024/02/03/bucks-nba-trade-deadline-primer/

I would do it. Makes sense for both teams

[yb90]

Is it just me or did Crowder start to look a little more like Crowder last night? It seems like he’s a little redundant with Grant Williams if he can get back in shape. But having two Crowders would be a pain in the ass, just not sure getting less athletic is what we want to do.

I think Portis and Williams are similar athletically but Portis is longer and taller. Trading the only back up big for a power wing defender is sketchy when that player is only a spot up shooter. Grant would still be an asset and would help but I think he is slightly below Portis. There would need to be compensation in Dallas end to get Portis.

[raferfenix]

Kris Dunn seems like a significantly better solution than Delon Wright if we could pull it off.

Whether we get Grant Williams or even someone like Dorian Finney-Smith we’d still have a need for defense in the backcourt too.

Utah does not have any 2024 picks at the moment so our Portland second seems like it could be attractive to them. Or maybe MarJon is more their target?

Matt Moore just reported this about the Jazz — cue “what’s going on in Utah” Windy meme:

The Jazz are active in the market, with Jordan Clarkson, Kelly Olynyk and Collin Sexton routinely described as available assets. Interestingly, the talks suggested by sources are not for future draft capital. The Jazz, sources say, called the Nets to inquire about Mikal Bridges, though they found the same impossibly high bar to clear in return.

Utah seems to be pursuing upgrades to the roster and not rebuilding moves.

https://www.actionnetwork.com/nba/nba-trade-rumors-latest-intel-on-chris-paul-kyle-lowry-warriors-and-lakers

[JonHeist]

if we trade for grant williams he will shoot under 25% from 3 for us

probably under 20% in the playoffs

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

Bobby is a gun and potential star for a bad tanking team that needs wrestling fake toughness to entertain the fans.

Grant is perfect as a role player for a team that needs an actual hardcore dick who cares about everything except numbers.

[ShootingtheJ]

if we trade for grant williams he will shoot under 25% from 3 for us

probably under 20% in the playoffs

That's was Bud's Bucks. Our shooters can shoot now.

[ShootingtheJ]

Bobby is a gun and potential star for a bad tanking team that needs wrestling fake toughness to entertain the fans.

Grant is perfect as a role player for a team that needs an actual hardcore dick who cares about everything except numbers.

All true, but Williams inability to rebound is killer, plus he can't finish at the basket or dribble. He's just incredibly limited. I'm cool with him as a throw in as part of a large trade, or acquired for Pat and another throw in. Definitely not for Bobby.

[Badgerlander]

Grant Williams is good at taking away driving lanes from wings and turning them into jump shooters, which works great on Giannis because he isn't a jump shooter but we aren't playing against Giannis. Wings that can shoot will just shoot over Grant Williams just like Durant did to PJ. Grant Williams is good at taking charges, again good against Giannis. Other than that Grant is not a rim protector, not a help defender, not a rebounder, not a guy that can drive to the hoop much less finish at the rim, not a post up guy, not a deflections guy... Like I said before, he is as useful as a fat version of last years Grayson Allen. Dallas way overpaid Grant thinking he was going to change their culture. I want no part of taking his contract especially giving up a way more useful player in Bobby on a cheaper contract.

[soxperry]

I hadn't really watched Konchar play, just became enamored with his metrics. Thanks to the person who posted "the high-low" the other day, i was able to verify that this guy is European Derrick White on defense.

Quick hands, Instincts, no wasted movements, doesn't seem to have fast feet or athleticism until he's in the air all of a sudden, destroying someone. He just signed an extension and is cost controlled at about 6M per for three years, starting next season.

I dont know if he can be a starter, but he would be very useful off the bench.

https://thehighlow.io/video/player/nba/2023-24/1629723/stl,blk?ordsq=asc&shotFilters=

[Ron Swanson]

Not even the biggest Grant Williams fan but I can't imagine how people can keep watching Bobby be basically useless against any top contender and not be fine with swapping him for any useful PF that can move his feet on defense. Bobby for Williams, Marjon and the Portland 2nd for Quentin Grimes, and let's roll.

Dame
Beasley/Grimes
Middleton/Pat
Giannis/Williams/Crowder
Brook

There's your 8-9 man playoff rotation. Sprinkle in 5-10 minutes of Payne only if necessary.

[WiscoKing13]

Stein reporting on his sub stack we are bound to do something. Brings up Bobby, Pat, and POR second as the only things left in the arsenal. Strangely doesn't bring up Marjon and does not bring up a specific target.

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[bucksfansince88]

Don’t trade either of your wings

[Badgerlander]

Not even the biggest Grant Williams fan but I can't imagine how people can keep watching Bobby be basically useless against any top contender and not be fine with swapping him for any useful PF that can move his feet on defense. Bobby for Williams, Marjon and the Portland 2nd for Quentin Grimes, and let's roll.

Dame
Beasley/Grimes
Middleton/Pat
Giannis/Williams/Crowder
Brook

There's your 8-9 man playoff rotation. Sprinkle in 5-10 minutes of Payne only if necessary.

Why trade for Grant when we have Jae? Very similar players but Jae costs $2mil. Why pay $40 million for a guy that can shoot the 3 (shooting numbers are down the last two seasons) and flop on D and that's it? We need a POA guard and then our next biggest need is a guy that can replace Middleton if he goes down, or another rim protector/back up center. Grant Williams archetype can be had for league minimum every offseason.

[soxperry]

Stein reporting on his sub stack we are bound to do something. Brings up Bobby, Pat, and POR second as the only things left in the arsenal. Strangely doesn't bring up Marjon and does not bring up a specific target.

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Marjon stock is pretty low. To me, that's why we shouldn't trade him right now. Not unless someone else really likes him and he is valued as a playoff first in a trade. Short of that, no reason to trade him. He can still be something, just way too early to tell.

Andre seems untradable unless some team values him as a lottery pick (they wouldn't).

[msiris]

Bobby for William sounds so underwhelming

[German Athens]

I hadn't really watched Konchar play, just became enamored with his metrics. Thanks to the person who posted "the high-low" the other day, i was able to verify that this guy is European Derrick White on defense.

Quick hands, Instincts, no wasted movements, doesn't seem to have fast feet or athleticism until he's in the air all of a sudden, destroying someone. He just signed an extension and is cost controlled at about 6M per for three years, starting next season.

I dont know if he can be a starter, but he would be very useful off the bench.

https://thehighlow.io/video/player/nba/2023-24/1629723/stl,blk?ordsq=asc&shotFilters=

Konchar would be great here as a pat replacement. I don’t think Derrick white when I see Konchar play though. White has better on-ball defensive stopper ability, and then on the flip side has pretty considerable self creation/team creation.

Konchar is like a suped up pat. Crazy good nose for the ball, shot comes and goes, understands where to be on the court and gives up his body. Doesn’t shoot as often as pat, but he’s a better defender. I’d love him here.

[Badgerlander]

Konchar is a brilliant defender. If you put his brain in Pat's body you would have a useful player.

[BigO]

Marc Stein made a big deal in that podcast about how the Mavs barely have anyone playing over 6’7 and desperately need size.

Idk the extent to which Grant Williams solves our problems but Eric Nehm floating a straight swap with Bobby very well might be a trial balloon on behalf of the team.

Horst also has experience with Jason Kidd not quite maximizing players’ potential if the bet is that’s related to Grant Williams’ decline after getting paid.

For the Bucks, trading for Williams would be an opportunity to try to trade for a distressed asset. Williams is three years younger than Portis and has one more year on his contract than Portis, who has a $13.4 million player option for the 2025-26 season. With the Celtics, Williams showed an ability to bother some of the league’s top scoring wings, which could end up being helpful for the Bucks in the postseason.

https://theathletic.com/5215735/2024/02/03/bucks-nba-trade-deadline-primer/

I would do it. Makes sense for both teams

Anyone thinking Eric Nehm has any inside info on anything had better think twice.

[BigO]

Bobby for William sounds so underwhelming

Just an insane idea.

[ShootingtheJ]

Not even the biggest Grant Williams fan but I can't imagine how people can keep watching Bobby be basically useless against any top contender and not be fine with swapping him for any useful PF that can move his feet on defense.

Hard to believe a Bucks fan missed the Boston game.