Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Darvin Returns

[MiltownMadness]

It would help if we had a different coach and I felt confident he could really clean things up when it starts going off track... Doc seems like a really good publicist that can't actually coach his way out of a paper bag. Definitely not better than Bud.

Cool but try not to push your opinions on people by making bets its **** weird

Because you and your squad spout off these regular (pre) season stats like you're geniuses giving actual proof of some premise. So that confidence seems like you'd easily win the bet.

I'm just the dumb idiot going off my eyeballs ... that's the message so that's why a bet seems appropriate

You're trolling. He had his best stats in this postseason and only has missed 1 series in his career. God I don't like this **** man just stop

You'll hear it when the Wisconsinites wake up, this is bad

[Baddy Chuck]

Bev was a minimum... we looked better, faster and stronger when he started (pre injury) and KM was in a suit somewhere

From when we got Bev to 3/24 when he hurt his wrist we were -5.5 with him on the court.

[-Jragon-]

Cool but try not to push your opinions on people by making bets its **** weird

Because you and your squad spout off these regular (pre) season stats like you're geniuses giving actual proof of some premise. So that confidence seems like you'd easily win the bet.

I'm just the dumb idiot going off my eyeballs ... that's the message so that's why a bet seems appropriate

You're trolling. He had his best stats in this postseason and only has missed 1 series in his career. God I don't like this **** man just stop

I mean we played a team that was a lower seed than us. KM shot a lot of long 2s... we lost. That's what I saw. I didn't see him play any D... I saw him pointing at his teammates to switch on his guy a lot. I saw him complaining to the refs a lot.. we just don't need it... especially in relation to Dame and Giannis... get up and down the floor and move faster.. we need guys that will give Dame the ball, stfu, set screens and cut and get open so the ball finds you instead of standing stationary and calling for it like you're prime Shaq.

[MiltownMadness]

Because you and your squad spout off these regular (pre) season stats like you're geniuses giving actual proof of some premise. So that confidence seems like you'd easily win the bet.

I'm just the dumb idiot going off my eyeballs ... that's the message so that's why a bet seems appropriate

You're trolling. He had his best stats in this postseason and only has missed 1 series in his career. God I don't like this **** man just stop

I mean we played a team that was a lower seed than us. KM shot a lot of long 2s... we lost. That's what I saw. I didn't see him play any D... I saw him pointing at his teammates to switch on his guy a lot. I saw him complaining to the refs a lot.. we just don't need it... especially in relation to Dame and Giannis... get up and down the floor and move faster.. we need guys that will give Dame the ball, stfu, set screens and cut and get open so the ball finds you instead of standing stationary and calling for it like you're prime Shaq.

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[-Jragon-]

Bev was a minimum... we looked better, faster and stronger when he started (pre injury) and KM was in a suit somewhere

From when we got Bev to 3/24 when he hurt his wrist we were -5.5 with him on the court.

STARTED ... the post said STARTED and you gave different stats... wonder why

[-Jragon-]

You're trolling. He had his best stats in this postseason and only has missed 1 series in his career. God I don't like this **** man just stop

I mean we played a team that was a lower seed than us. KM shot a lot of long 2s... we lost. That's what I saw. I didn't see him play any D... I saw him pointing at his teammates to switch on his guy a lot. I saw him complaining to the refs a lot.. we just don't need it... especially in relation to Dame and Giannis... get up and down the floor and move faster.. we need guys that will give Dame the ball, stfu, set screens and cut and get open so the ball finds you instead of standing stationary and calling for it like you're prime Shaq.

quoting so cant delete

Lol nothing to delete.. did you see something different? Did we win?

[-Jragon-]

PPG in a series you LOSE is a weird flex. Idc ...if we lost vs Indy but Giannis averaged 50 that's not a flex obviously the other team still ran you ragged somehow. That's just not a brag.. we lost but I got a lot of points. Realgm flex lol.

Anyways.. I'll stfu and go to bed now. I'm just excited for some potential move or moves tomorrow FEAR THE DEAR

[Baddy Chuck]

Bev was a minimum... we looked better, faster and stronger when he started (pre injury) and KM was in a suit somewhere

From when we got Bev to 3/24 when he hurt his wrist we were -5.5 with him on the court.

STARTED ... the post said STARTED and you gave different stats... wonder why

He started 2 games, one Giannis didn't even play and the other against an Embiidless Philly in which this "better, faster, stronger" team had a pace of 88 .

[-Jragon-]

From when we got Bev to 3/24 when he hurt his wrist we were -5.5 with him on the court.

STARTED ... the post said STARTED and you gave different stats... wonder why

He started 2 games, one Giannis didn't even play and the other against an Embiidless Philly in which this "better, faster, stronger" team had a pace of 88 .

Why read INTO my post for things I didn't say? I didn't talk about stats nor did I say i was 10 games. All I said is we "looked" a certain way. It's style of play and mesh, not your favorite stat PPG so I guess it's irrelevant.. ok guys, km can get more ppg congrats... is that gonna beat Boston? Bet

[Baddy Chuck]

STARTED ... the post said STARTED and you gave different stats... wonder why

He started 2 games, one Giannis didn't even play and the other against an Embiidless Philly in which this "better, faster, stronger" team had a pace of 88 .

Why read INTO my post for things I didn't say? I didn't talk about stats nor did I say i was 10 games. All I said is we "looked" a certain way. It's style of play and mesh, not your favorite stat PPG so I guess it's irrelevant.. ok guys, km can get more ppg congrats... is that gonna beat Boston? Bet

Reading into your posts literally leads to nothings of a dude grasping at straws for anything to make Khris look worse than he did from a dude's eye test who hates him when pretty much everything that could possibly be statistically quantified tells a completely different story, including this new Beverley nonsense. You talk about Middleton "losing" the Pacers series when he played 80% of the minutes in a losing series yet the team was a net positive when he played and the 20% of minutes he sat we were -16.1 net.

I've stated multiple times that I don't think this team as is is a complete team that I would feel comfortable going into the season (postseason) with. Most people agree, even ones who don't mind or like Middleton. This new attempt to try to like "bet" people on the team we have no idea will be entering next season against a team with the best odds in the NBA to repeat next season is some lame attempt to try to give yourself a "win" of people not taking you up on a dumb bet.

[-Jragon-]

He started 2 games, one Giannis didn't even play and the other against an Embiidless Philly in which this "better, faster, stronger" team had a pace of 88 .

Why read INTO my post for things I didn't say? I didn't talk about stats nor did I say i was 10 games. All I said is we "looked" a certain way. It's style of play and mesh, not your favorite stat PPG so I guess it's irrelevant.. ok guys, km can get more ppg congrats... is that gonna beat Boston? Bet

Reading into your posts literally leads to nothings of a dude grasping at straws for anything to make Khris look worse than he did from a dude's eye test who hates him when pretty much everything that could possibly be statistically quantified tells a completely different story, including this new Beverley nonsense. You talk about Middleton "losing" the Pacers series when he played 80% of the minutes in a losing series yet the team was a net positive when he played and the 20% of minutes he sat we were -16.1 net.

I've stated multiple times that I don't think this team as is is a complete team that I would feel comfortable going into the season (postseason) with. Most people agree, even ones who don't mind or like Middleton. This new attempt to try to like "bet" people on the team we have no idea will be entering next season against a team with the best odds in the NBA to repeat next season is some lame attempt to try to give yourself a "win" of people not taking you up on a dumb bet.

It's because I'm simplifying it to ... last year we had the 3 stooges on wing defense. Next year you want only 2 stooges... is that better? Yes. But what if we just had 1? And surrounded Dame with defenders in a similar way to how Bud surrounded KM with defenders by getting him Jrue and DDV. It will be way easier to help rotate or switch to help one vulnerable defender than 2. If Bridges can get 5 1sts or whatever ridiculous haul he got than what can KM get now if we stay ahead of the physical decline and get value now?

[Baddy Chuck]

It's because I'm simplifying it to ... last year we had the 3 stooges on wing defense. Next year you want only 2 stooges... is that better? Yes. But what if we just had 1? And surrounded Dame with defenders in a similar way to how Bud surrounded KM with defenders by getting him Jrue and DDV. It will be way easier to help rotate or switch to help one vulnerable defender than 2. If Bridges can get 5 1sts or whatever ridiculous haul he got than what can KM get now if we stay ahead of the physical decline and get value now?

If Khris has immense value that could improve the team I would trade him. Personally I think piecing him out at cost lowers the ceiling of the team which as constructed is our only shot at really winning it all (playing at our ceiling and not our baseline) and simply becoming more "solid" doesn't give us a better shot at winning any time soon.

I think you're whole schtick of being the loudest dude in the room without even giving a modicum of an alternative other than yelling scouting report catchphrases of guys is so tiresome. If you want people to even give your idea of "YOUNGER STRONGER FASTER" Daft Punk line slinging at least throw some ideas out there because so far basically all we've seen is you talk about guys who were on the roster (Jae Crowder, Pat Bev, etc) replacing Middleton and it's laughable, so I could only imagine the names you'd be throwing out elsewhere.

[-Jragon-]

I read this everyday and a couple of you spout off EVERYDAY defending KM. That's much louder. I've popped in to type like once every week or 2.

But yeah you guys are right that I don't have specifics for names and maybe what I'm hoping for isn't really possible. It's more of a general style I'm hoping to go towards. Our main 2 players are pretty fast so getting fast guys around them seems pretty exciting to me instead of us looking like our players are on quicksand. KM being wing size is why I bring him up the most but I'm open to moving all the other slowpokes too. Also I want all dunks and 3s... tired of watching the Carmello 2s trash. So for me it's that I want a brand change.. a style change.. Doc was coach of the Lob City Clips... I want something more like that now and a couple corner 3 shooters but everyone can pressure the ball like Indy does.

[ShootingtheJ]

If so can i see a marcus smart plus ? coming to the bucks.You all want that D guy like him or not hes one of those guys

Beverly was more valuable the last 2 years than Smart.

I would not go that far but price wise Bev is better for similar production minus the assists. If Beverly can some how regain his 3pt shooting on his earlier attempt rate he would be way better.

Bev statistically measured better. Smart is the most overrated player in the league.

[ShootingtheJ]

Mavericks are a team interested in Brook.

Bucks get: Josh Green
Mavericks get: Brook Lopez
Wizards get: Kleber, 2nd round picks via Dallas

[bdpecore]

I'll go as far to say you don't really know ball if you don't think a big 3 of Dame/GA/Khris can win it all. Improve on the margins. Gamble on the health. It's all you can do

Also, gambling on health is also ridiculous... we see how well that works by now. Cut bait.

Every team in the league is gambling on health. If Tatum was out, Brown was hobbled and Jimmy Butler was playing in the first round, you honestly think Boston would've won with Houser and Pritchard playing 35mpg? Boston used a 7-8 player rotation in the playoffs. The only reason Kornet and Tillman played any serious minutes is because Porzingis was banged up. If either Tatum or Brown was out they would've been forced to play guys like Brissett or Mykhailiuk.

Considering Pat Beverley averaged 34.9mpg in the Pacers series while Beasley and Gallinari averaged 31mpg and 16.5mpg respectively in two games Dame missed. I can see why we lost the series. It's impressive we were able to win 2 games and borderline amazing Middleton carried them to a win in game 5 without Giannis and Dame.

[bdpecore]

I already stated/admitted I don't study many other teams and players.

That's not how addition by subtraction works. If he moved to the moon tomorrow and we could use 1/3 of his salary on 3 and D hustlers that cut and set screens we're better.

So you think Milwaukee and sign three younger 3&D players for less than $11MM? Can you please provide me with some examples of players you think will sign for $3/4MM per who can solid contributors in a championship caliber playoff rotation?

[ReddRum]

Any rumors floating out there before the upcoming draft? We tying to trade our picks or standing pat? Linked to any specific players?The only thing I really heard is that Brook is on the trade block (not sure if true). Been out of the loop since we got bumped from the playoffs. Any updates would be appreciated!

[msiris]

I'll go as far to say you don't really know ball if you don't think a big 3 of Dame/GA/Khris can win it all. Improve on the margins. Gamble on the health. It's all you can do

Also, gambling on health is also ridiculous... we see how well that works by now. Cut bait.

Every team in the league is gambling on health. If Tatum was out, Brown was hobbled and Jimmy Butler was playing in the first round, you honestly think Boston would've won with Houser and Pritchard playing 35mpg? Boston used a 7-8 player rotation in the playoffs. The only reason Kornet and Tillman played any serious minutes is because Porzingis was banged up. If either Tatum or Brown was out they would've been forced to play guys like Brissett or Mykhailiuk.

Considering Pat Beverley averaged 34.9mpg in the Pacers series while Beasley and Gallinari averaged 31mpg and 16.5mpg respectively in two games Dame missed. I can see why we lost the series. It's impressive we were able to win 2 games and borderline amazing Middleton carried them to a win in game 5 without Giannis and Dame.

Um Tatum and Brown are alot younger than our guys and don't have the injury history.

[bdpecore]

Who cares about odds. It's $5... can we beat Boston with KM playing 33+ min.. Yes or no... everyone healthy... I think it will NEVER happen. So if that's true then either 6th man him or trade him and get guys that can scrap with Brown/Tatum and not embarrass us

Yes? Once again a crazy premise

1. Having to go through Boston is the only way to win a ring right now.
2. You want KM to start and play 33+ min to beat them.
3. I don't believe that's possible
4. You do
5. Crazy premise to bet that? Ok fine $2

37 yr old Al Horford averaged 30.3mpg in the playoffs. Not sure why Khris wouldn't be able to play 33mpg when he averaged 38.3mpg in the Pacers series and was by far the Bucks best player in the series.