Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018

PANDEMONEUM · Post #1661 » by **PANDEMONEUM** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:02 pm

M-C-G wrote:
PANDEMONEUM wrote:You just can't have it in conjunction with Delly, Telly, Snelly, Henson making 40M per year.....this is an entire convo on its own

So trading/losing the premium talent to compensate for the marginal talent is the approach? That is doubling down on the mistake IMO.

2 different issues, is what i meant.
cant easily get out of those contracts.

Jimmmycrackcorn · Post #1662 » by **Jimmmycrackcorn** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:03 pm

Profound23 wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Yeah, they're open to trading him because BAM! is the real deal, and they've been nearly splitting the Center minutes down the middle for the last 15 or so games (26/21 for Whiteside/BAM respectively).

Remember how many Bucks fans celebrated when Miami took BAM because they feared we would fall to us?

so dumb.....

his toughness would fit so perfectly with this roster

instead we drafted the softest wimp in the draft

Ron Swanson · Post #1663 » by **Ron Swanson** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:04 pm

Profound23 wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Yeah, they're open to trading him because BAM! is the real deal, and they've been nearly splitting the Center minutes down the middle for the last 15 or so games (26/21 for Whiteside/BAM respectively).

Remember how many Bucks fans celebrated when Miami took BAM because they feared we would fall to us?

I don't know what the temperature of the board was at draft time but I've been on board the BAM! train since December of 2016. Was hoping he'd fall to us at #17.

DingleJerry · Post #1664 » by **DingleJerry** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:06 pm

I was content with Bam at the time. Isn't he a touch short and that's what everyone was worried about?

Jimmmycrackcorn · Post #1665 » by **Jimmmycrackcorn** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:10 pm

Read on Twitter

Jimmmycrackcorn · Post #1666 » by **Jimmmycrackcorn** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:11 pm

but hey, we got DJ Wilson........

M-C-G · Post #1667 » by **M-C-G** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:11 pm

Profound23 wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Yeah, they're open to trading him because BAM! is the real deal, and they've been nearly splitting the Center minutes down the middle for the last 15 or so games (26/21 for Whiteside/BAM respectively).

Remember how many Bucks fans celebrated when Miami took BAM because they feared he would fall to us?

Were there really? I don't recall (not disputing it). BAM wasn't at the top of my list because I liked options that fell into the second round (though I am glad we got Sterling), but I don't think I would have been unhappy with it.

Actually I am pretty certain that Ivan Raab and DJ Wilson were the only two guys that I really did not want.

Wonka · Post #1668 » by **Wonka** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:12 pm

Jimmmycrackcorn wrote:but hey, we got DJ Wilson........

just you wait until he turns into poor man's Charlie V, you'll be eating your words!

God, that made me sad

HurricaneKid · Post #1669 » by **HurricaneKid** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:15 pm

1) Whiteside was out of the league despite EVIDENT talent for 2.5 years due to his terrible attitude.
2) Whiteside missed 4 weeks due to significant knee pain. He tweeted something about "Y'all need to find out whats up with my Knee". He deleted it but I think there is strong reason to believe he is breaking down. He has played >30 min twice since Thanksgiving. Something is going on.

I hate that people still want to dump Henson. He has been incredible. Consistent even. I just want another big that is able to bang with the big boys and provide bench support. Mostly to take Thon's minutes and do something productive with them.

SirChurros · Post #1670 » by **SirChurros** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:17 pm

M-C-G wrote:
Profound23 wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Yeah, they're open to trading him because BAM! is the real deal, and they've been nearly splitting the Center minutes down the middle for the last 15 or so games (26/21 for Whiteside/BAM respectively).

Remember how many Bucks fans celebrated when Miami took BAM because they feared he would fall to us?

Were there really? I don't recall (not disputing it). BAM wasn't at the top of my list because I liked options that fell into the second round (though I am glad we got Sterling), but I don't think I would have been unhappy with it.

Actually I am pretty certain that Ivan Raab and DJ Wilson were the only two guys that I really did not want.

Ivan Raab has been looking pretty good the past few games.

Ron Swanson · Post #1671 » by **Ron Swanson** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:17 pm

DingleJerry wrote:I was content with Bam at the time. Isn't he a touch short and that's what everyone was worried about?

6'10 with a 7'1 and a half wingspan. Not to mention a freak vertical athlete. I never understood why people thought he was undersized at all. Maybe 10-15 years ago he'd have been undersized for a center.

Jimmmycrackcorn · Post #1672 » by **Jimmmycrackcorn** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:18 pm

Wonka wrote:
Jimmmycrackcorn wrote:but hey, we got DJ Wilson........

just you wait until he turns into poor man's Charlie V, you'll be eating your words!

God, that made me sad

Bucks DNA

Jimmmycrackcorn · Post #1673 » by **Jimmmycrackcorn** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:19 pm

i will never forgive this organization for drafting DJ Wilson

most useless pick of all time

Wonka · Post #1674 » by **Wonka** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:19 pm

Jimmmycrackcorn wrote:
Wonka wrote:
Jimmmycrackcorn wrote:but hey, we got DJ Wilson........

just you wait until he turns into poor man's Charlie V, you'll be eating your words!

God, that made me sad

Bucks DNA

after Larry, I thought Bucks DNA was NOT blatant stoners, but here we are

Jimmmycrackcorn · Post #1675 » by **Jimmmycrackcorn** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:22 pm

let's all just pretend we traded nothing at all for a 20 point a night scorer who needs to work his way back into game shape

k?

k

i think if we can all just pretend that happened, we'll be happy

skones · Post #1676 » by **skones** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:23 pm

DingleJerry wrote:I was content with Bam at the time. Isn't he a touch short and that's what everyone was worried about?

Consistent motor, rim protection, defensive rebounding.

M-C-G · Post #1677 » by **M-C-G** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:27 pm

Krispy Kreme wrote:
M-C-G wrote:
Profound23 wrote:
Remember how many Bucks fans celebrated when Miami took BAM because they feared he would fall to us?

Were there really? I don't recall (not disputing it). BAM wasn't at the top of my list because I liked options that fell into the second round (though I am glad we got Sterling), but I don't think I would have been unhappy with it.

Actually I am pretty certain that Ivan Raab and DJ Wilson were the only two guys that I really did not want.

Ivan Raab has been looking pretty good the past few games.

Yeah, no idea, haven't looked, just couldn't project him into being anything of interest long term when I was doing my draft research.

Xanadu · Post #1678 » by **Xanadu** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:31 pm

I am far more open to the idea of trading Middleton now than I was in the past few years. He is far more iso oriented and a much less effective defender than in the past. I put this squarely on Kidd who's offensive system seemed to encourage that type of play. Midds has become Joe Johnson lite. Would love to get Seller and Walker for Bled and Midds but that is a pipe dream. Maybe Thon/Midds for Zeller/Monk.

raferfenix · Post #1679 » by **raferfenix** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:33 pm

Wasn't there a report something along the lines that the Bucks were offering 2/3 of Thon / Wilson / Vaughn in deals?

I'd probably be cool with that if it could yield us a Henson upgrade.

From that perspective I'm thinking I'd rather go for a cheaper center like Rolo vs a more expensive one where we have to deal Jabari.

Deandre and Whiteside are also exactly at the age when they start to break down. It's not like they're without risk even though they didn't do their ACL's.

triplejcubed3 · Post #1680 » by **triplejcubed3** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:34 pm

Jimmmycrackcorn wrote:i will never forgive this organization for drafting DJ Wilson

most useless pick of all time

Easier to forgive that, than when i was crushed when they traded Ray Allen for Gary Payton ugh...