Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Giannis Thoughts on Middleton Trade Page 90

Balls2TheWalls · Post #1661 » by **Balls2TheWalls** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:14 pm

The return of Thanasis must be imminent. We are going to aggregate salary for someone with our 2031 first, sign Rollins, and bring back Thanasis.

braindazer · Post #1662 » by **braindazer** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:21 pm

braindazer wrote:Any chance of Thanasis joining the team this year? And if they don't want him back as a player I think he would be a good candidate as one of their many coaches . Question is whether or not he'd be willing to do that if he can't play on the team or even If he has interest in being a coach. I think he would be an excellent coach in time. Maybe he could be a player/coach. Another Bill Russell lol.

soxperry · Post #1663 » by **soxperry** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:22 pm

I recall Doc saying he had some Giannis at the 5 stuff but that it depended on Khris. So maybe thats more in play now with Kuzma

BigO · Post #1664 » by **BigO** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:26 pm

I can't see the Bucks trading Lopez unless we get another rim protector as a result.

Capela would be ok.

I'd go for Butler ONLY if we can get Ware. I'd give Lopez, BP, trash and the '31 pick.

BigO · Post #1665 » by **BigO** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:29 pm

wallus wrote:
BroncoBuck wrote:
ReddRum wrote:
Yup. FAFO time. You gonna trade bro's bff you better bring a big fish back home for dinner. There better be MTC by tomorrow afternoon or the Warriors and Nets and countless other teams are gonna be licking their chops this offseason. Get rid of this clown before Giannis leaves.

It’s a Greek soccer tweet

Yep, some of you need to log off as you are embarrassing yourself with some of your posts.

If embarrassing posts determined who should log off, this site would be barren. Including myself.

engelmartin · Post #1666 » by **engelmartin** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:34 pm

Send Pat to the Baltimore Orioles for a conditional 15th rounder

Turk Nowitzki · Post #1667 » by **Turk Nowitzki** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:38 pm

They can have Pat and that 2nd we just got from Washington for Cody Martin. That's about it.

tedbrogen · Post #1668 » by **tedbrogen** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:46 pm

Turk Nowitzki wrote:They can have Pat and that 2nd we just got from Washington for Cody Martin. That's about it.

It shouldn’t cost much more. Worst case throw in the 2031 second.

tedbrogen · Post #1669 » by **tedbrogen** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:48 pm

Also noting Martin’s salary is non guaranteed for next season. So you see if he helps the D and is passable on O. If so, keep him around. If not, release him and create more salary space. Something that you can’t do with Oat since he is 100% picking up his player option for next year.

neiLz · Post #1670 » by **neiLz** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:49 pm

tedbrogen wrote:Also noting Martin’s salary is non guaranteed for next season. So you see if he helps the D and is passable on O. If so, keep him around. If not, release him and create more salary space. Something that you can’t do with Oat since he is 100% picking up his player option for next year.

What if i told you if they let him go, there still is no cap space?

Matches Malone · Post #1671 » by **Matches Malone** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:51 pm

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BroncoBuck · Post #1672 » by **BroncoBuck** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:52 pm

neiLz wrote:
tedbrogen wrote:Also noting Martin’s salary is non guaranteed for next season. So you see if he helps the D and is passable on O. If so, keep him around. If not, release him and create more salary space. Something that you can’t do with Oat since he is 100% picking up his player option for next year.

What if i told you if they let him go, there still is no cap space?

What if I told you Brook is off the books next year?

tedbrogen · Post #1673 » by **tedbrogen** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:54 pm

neiLz wrote:
tedbrogen wrote:Also noting Martin’s salary is non guaranteed for next season. So you see if he helps the D and is passable on O. If so, keep him around. If not, release him and create more salary space. Something that you can’t do with Oat since he is 100% picking up his player option for next year.

What if i told you if they let him go, there still is no cap space?

They are already on track to be below the first apron. The full NTPMLE would be nice.

soxperry · Post #1674 » by **soxperry** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:54 pm

neiLz wrote:
tedbrogen wrote:Also noting Martin’s salary is non guaranteed for next season. So you see if he helps the D and is passable on O. If so, keep him around. If not, release him and create more salary space. Something that you can’t do with Oat since he is 100% picking up his player option for next year.

What if i told you if they let him go, there still is no cap space?

Being able to clear 8M for a 2nd round pick is still good. Our new cap is essentially the 2nd apron. No, we cant sign anyone outright, except maybe tpmle, but it definitely helps.

emunney · Post #1675 » by **emunney** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:56 pm

buckboy wrote:
msiris wrote:
jakecronus8 wrote:Can’t aggregate Kuzma in any deal I believe.
Didnt Jrue get flipped right away?

He wasn't aggregated though.

Until the paperwork is submitted (maybe it has been, haven't checked in in a minute), the trade can be expanded. But I see no reason to believe that we didn't specifically target Kuzma (and his declining contract) with the intent to have him here long term.

tedbrogen · Post #1676 » by **tedbrogen** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:56 pm

soxperry wrote:
neiLz wrote:
tedbrogen wrote:Also noting Martin’s salary is non guaranteed for next season. So you see if he helps the D and is passable on O. If so, keep him around. If not, release him and create more salary space. Something that you can’t do with Oat since he is 100% picking up his player option for next year.

What if i told you if they let him go, there still is no cap space?

Being able to clear 8M for a 2nd round pick is still good. Our new cap is essentially the 2nd apron. No, we cant sign anyone outright, except maybe tpmle, but it definitely helps.

Pending other trades, Brook and Bobby are off the books as well. As of now they’ll be below the tax this offseason and have paths to access the full MLE.

buckboy · Post #1677 » by **buckboy** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:57 pm

emunney wrote:
buckboy wrote:
msiris wrote:Didnt Jrue get flipped right away?

He wasn't aggregated though.

Until the paperwork is submitted (maybe it has been, haven't checked in in a minute), the trade can be expanded. But I see no reason to believe that we didn't specifically target Kuzma (and his declining contract) with the intent to have him here long term.

I absolutely agree. As I said earlier (or in another thread, I honestly have no idea), Kuzma cut his kicker to get the Bucks under the 2nd apron. They're not trading him.

neiLz · Post #1678 » by **neiLz** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:58 pm

BroncoBuck wrote:
neiLz wrote:
tedbrogen wrote:Also noting Martin’s salary is non guaranteed for next season. So you see if he helps the D and is passable on O. If so, keep him around. If not, release him and create more salary space. Something that you can’t do with Oat since he is 100% picking up his player option for next year.

What if i told you if they let him go, there still is no cap space?

What if I told you Brook is off the books next year?

so the full MLE would be left, nice. need to replace brook, midds, bobby, brook for the MLE. plus get younger and more athletic with teh assets they have.

Bernman · Post #1679 » by **Bernman** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:58 pm

You'd figure getting under the 2nd apron would be a prelude to other moves, that include getting an athletic big that can play the 5 (unlike Kuzma). But I didn't ever think they'd trade Khris (& more) for Kuzma, so I'm done predicting when they're not rational.

Wonka · Post #1680 » by **Wonka** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 7:00 pm

Bernman wrote:You'd figure getting under the 2nd apron would be a prelude to other moves, that include getting an athletic big that can play the 5 (unlike Kuzma). But I didn't ever think they'd trade Khris (& more) for Kuzma, so I'm done predicting when they're not rational.

This move was an onus from ownership to save some money, nothing more. Don't expect any huge move to lessen the impact of how bad this one is.