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[-Jragon-]

Mr. Dick Tate, hit them honor system push-ups. Lol

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[MickeyDavis]

I love watching Ja play. But between injuries and being a knucklehead it's an easy no.

[-Jragon-]

I would be more stunned if Tyler Smith became a serviceable NBA player than just about anyone that's played for the Bucks in recent memory. I cannot remember him making any play other than hitting a catch and shoot 3. Seems to have no basketball instincts and is always a step slow.

Think our scouting department needs to spend more time watching the guys play live basketball than warmups or skills work.

Went to a college club basketball championship last year. One team was full of guys jamming in warm-ups and taking step back threes. The other team had guys screening, passing, hitting floaters over defenders. It was a lopsided affair. The guys jamming in warm-ups couldn't catch in a crowd, couldn't score when bumped off their spots, couldn't work together to get open, couldn't rotate or communicate on defense effectively.

Tyler Smith and AJ Johnson seem like warm-up warriors to me.

These dudes aren't terrible.. it's just that same problem.. every year new dudes get drafted and signed out of college that already can hit open 3s and defend. Those guys aren't getting let go because they fit in a rotation instantly around any star player. So unless AJJ, Liv or Smith magically become stars (best on their team) they'll keep getting bumped down the ladder until they have to sign overseas somewhere.

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[htr]

Huge correct move putting Coffey on the team and likely in the rotation. Completes an A off season to me. Was waiting for this move to make that grade.

[bucksfansince88]

Please overhaul the entire scouting and player personnel/development department. you have to invest in the best in an organization like ours, the drafting has been unacceptable for the past decade!

[drone3]

Hoping Gary Harris teaches Ajax how to play D

[slos]

Bucks have burnt close to 10 mil in cap space after paying Livingston and Smith for nothing, while giving that POs to Prince, Harris and Sims. Half the teams are in the tax. Bucks could use that cap space after stretching Dame to add some picks.

[AussieBuck]

I would be more stunned if Tyler Smith became a serviceable NBA player than just about anyone that's played for the Bucks in recent memory. I cannot remember him making any play other than hitting a catch and shoot 3. Seems to have no basketball instincts and is always a step slow.

Agreed. I am fairly elite at imagining things that will probably never eventuate with our young guys and I just couldn't do it all with that dude. Never saw a single thing.

[AussieBuck]

I'm sure I am mis-remembering, but it feels like the gap between the last preseason game and the first actual game is absurdly long this season. Start the **** season ****!

[giannis and 1]

Sounds like Tyler Smith is getting cut. Just a clueless draft pick by Horst. Smith was on my " absolutely do not draft" list pre draft. 33rd pick isn't good enough to start in the G League.

Every time I watched him he looked ass

[ShootingtheJ]

The impending release of Tyler Smith is a good reminder of the absolute absurdity of those who want to trade Giannis for picks. Horst rebuilding through the draft is an apocalyptic nightmare.

[BUCKnation]

Horst might one of the best ever at finding guys off the scrap heap (Brook, Bobby, Pat, and even more recently with Green and Rollins) but his drafting has got to be one of the worst, even given the late picks.

I dont why he went so far away from drafting college guys like Donte or Ajax. None of these ignite guys have stuck and even the good ones were projects and drafting an 18 year old from Australia was high risk too. We needed guys who could contribute now. Or at least compromise and take TJ Shannon and a project with the other pick.

[raferfenix]

Who cares if Horst picked up young talent in other ways that weren’t the draft?

That guy earned his extension this offseason and then some.

[Matches Malone]

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[GHOSTofSIKMA]

Being a role player like Green and GT you might move the ball early in the clock hoping it finds GA or Dame but then their D ends up forcing the ball to Brook/Kuz for bricks last year. Now everyone should confidently step into their shots. I think we get more 140 point games this year.

youre hoping for the kind of results we got the first two years under bud. the league understands how to defend this now. it could be the same struggle we faced on buds last leg

the new guys are faster and move better to the long range shots so its possible. maybe even the best shooters weve had.....but they cant put it on the floor like the previous dudes that could make other defenders come off guys if people were in their grill. we have literally no gaurd on this team that can punish anybody on the dribble besides kpj...or maybe rollins. it could be worse, far far worse.... on that aspect alone. we'll have to see

Problems on Bud's last leg ,(offense):
1. Giannis barreling over mfers and injuring himself... should be fixed but we'll see
2. Slow plodders (Brook, Portis, KM) not really moving or cutting early in the clock leaving it to some 1v1 bs late in the clock ... 2/3 fixed since BP didn't hit pavement yet
3. Doubling GA off the weakest shooter in the last 8 seconds of the clock so either GA shoots a dumb as$ long 2 or kicks it to Donte- bricks-a-lot or Pat-streaky-fcker..... almost fixed except that I'm scared Kuz would be that double off of guy.

So short answer -- no. I am hoping we have good D, quick transitions and find open 3 looks by good shooters or drives by GA/KPJ early in the clock. I'm banking on our current guards being more consistent than DDV and Pat C, Turner being less of a plodder and more consistent shooting than Brook, and KPJ being more of a playmaker on offense than Jrue was.

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our plodders were all allstars or bucket getters. i understand we'll be faster but were far more limited than what we were in virtually every other component of the game of basketball on offense. if giannis is not up to the task of orchestrating this new approach once teams adjust to this, and they will.... were ****.

so if what were doing was some huge recipe then teams would all dump their bucket getters for speed and cutters and shooters and all that sexy sounding way of playing. but theres a reason that doesnt happen....theres a reason that wont ever happen. a bunch of bucket getters is still the best way to play offense in this game. getting them to cut and move sure....do that too. but what were doing is the only way a team can compete when they have less talent. now we HAVE to play that way...and exclusively. its a good plan but im not as optimistic as some simply because of the talent divide. its still very very real. and once teams gameplan for our "princeton thing" it could become very frustrating for giannis against good defensive teams that are simply playing hard fundamental basketball and we may start seeing alot more giannis plowing into walls just like in the old days if the ball isnt popping 100% of the time. this plan is EXTREMELY dependent on giannis conjuring up his best prime chris paul act if its going to work after teams see us a few times......

....or others could step up. we have some guys that may be capable of that. lets keep our fingers crossed on kpj, rollins and cole especially. giannis cannot be the only one who can leverage an offense and get the ball offense moving. it just wont work well if its him and only him

[Bucksmaniac]

AJ’s shot is off in this scrimmage practice, I’ll be the first to say that the $45 million dollar man is dogging it…

[raferfenix]

this plan is EXTREMELY dependent on giannis conjuring up his best prime chris paul act if its going to work after teams see us a few times......

....or others could step up. we have some guys that may be capable of that. lets keep our fingers crossed on kpj, rollins and cole especially

Our prospects look very different if at least one of those guys takes serious advantage of the career making opportunity before them.

[MickeyDavis]

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[Bucksmaniac]

Cole Anthony stood out to me in the 1st scrimmage period, looked great on his floaters and 3 point shot.

[paulpressey25]

Who cares if Horst picked up young talent in other ways that weren’t the draft?

That guy earned his extension this offseason and then some.

His complete inability to draft is the difference between the Bucks winning one more title and possibly losing Giannis.

His not only bad at it, he’s downright terrible. And we’ll make another mistake this year by not taking Proctor, a guy who might have actually earned some minutes.