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Re: Milwaukee Bucks Pick Giannis with pick #15 

Post#1681 » by theFireBlanket » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:33 pm

So, where are Childress' Greek League stats if those are only what he put up in Euroleague?

Is 2pt fg separated from 3pt fg without a total fg%? His total would then be 53.18%.
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Re: Milwaukee Bucks Pick Giannis with pick #15 

Post#1682 » by emunney » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:34 pm

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emunney wrote:You said he was laughably terrible "the whole time he was with Olympiacos". That would include his Greek League games.

He also made all-Euroleague 2nd team. Crazy for one of the worst players in the league to be honored in that way.


The only crazy thing I see right now in this forum, is a bunch of NBA fans trying to claim a dreadful awful player like Childress was the best at anything, and one of the best in Europe, Greece, whatever.

From now on emunney, when you start criticizing me for not knowing about NBA, and all this other stuff, I will just laugh. Because clearly, I know tons more about NBA than you do. It's clear to me you have never even seen Josh Childress play basketball and that you clearly have no idea who he even is.

This guy is a scrub of the highest magnitude. And anyone saying they are NBA fan or Olympiacos fan or whatever that claims Childress is anything other than a terrible player - that person has never actually seen Josh Childress play basketball.

Childress = scrub in Greek League, scrub in Euroleague, scrub in NBA.

PERIOD.

And you obviously have an incredibly limited basketball knowledge.


Giant scrub. 2nd team all-Euroleague.
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Re: Milwaukee Bucks Pick Giannis with pick #15 

Post#1683 » by yannisk » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:35 pm

Childress was not bad, he had the skillset of a good role player and was paid superstar money. So the disapointment was related to expectations. When you had the highest player in europe (5 mil or something)
most people were expecting a 25 points per game scorer, well he wasn't. There were American players
paid 500k that looked better in carrying a team.

Regarding his fg I don't know what it was in euroleague but the year before in Atlanta he had 57%
was he tearing the nba?
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Re: Milwaukee Bucks Pick Giannis with pick #15 

Post#1684 » by emunney » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:36 pm

theFireBlanket wrote:So, where are Childress' Greek League stats if those are only what he put up in Euroleague?

Is 2pt fg separated from 3pt fg without a total fg%? His total would then be 53.18%.


I was using his stats on DX, which did not include playoff stats. If you include playoffs, he shot 58.6% in the Greek A1, scoring 15.3 points per game. They were crazy to not guard him. Surely he'd have been much worse if he wasn't just dunking by himself.
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Re: Milwaukee Bucks Pick Giannis with pick #15 

Post#1685 » by DukeH » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:36 pm

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They didn't guard him? That explains how he was able to shoot over 60% from the field. Probably a tactical error all things considered.


He never shot over 60% from the field. That's completely untrue.

He was left unguarded every game. He was an absolutely terrible player the 2 years he was on Olympiacos. The guy had absolutely no basketball skills or ability at all, other than dribbling.

He had ONE basketball ability, which was dribbling. He could do absolutely nothing else. He was one of the worst Olympiacos players of recent times.

http://www.euroleague.net/competition/p ... ode=001225


I like how Euroleague.net went with the picture of Childress rubbing his face in some hairy European's armpit.
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Re: Milwaukee Bucks Pick Giannis with pick #15 

Post#1686 » by emunney » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:37 pm

yannisk wrote:
Regarding his fg I don't know what it was in euroleague but the year before in Atlanta he had 57%
was he tearing the nba?


No, but he was a very low volume player in the NBA, and was never named all-NBA 2nd team.
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Re: Milwaukee Bucks Pick Giannis with pick #15 

Post#1687 » by interbasket » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:37 pm

theFireBlanket wrote:So, where are Childress' Greek League stats if those are only what he put up in Euroleague?

Is 2pt fg separated from 3pt fg without a total fg%? His total would then be 53.18%.


Yes. And all the guys here like emunney can see that, but they are just trying to start a flame war. Actually, I looked, and Wikipedia has his stats:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Childress

Not sure if they are correct, but they have the FG % there. At the Euroleague page, Greek League stats are listed under "other competition". You can just simply do it yourself on a calculator using the Euroleague page.

None of the leagues in the world except NBA list FG%.

yannisk wrote:Childress was not bad, he had the skillset of a good role player and was paid superstar money. So the disapointment was related to expectations. When you had the highest player in europe (5 mil or something)
most people were expecting a 25 points per game scorer, well he wasn't. There were American players
paid 500k that looked better in carrying a team.

Regarding his fg I don't know what it was in euroleague but the year before in Atlanta he had 57%
was he tearing the nba?


Define "not bad", because he was absolutely horrible the whole 2 years I watched him. What skills? I didn't see any skills.
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Re: Milwaukee Bucks Pick Giannis with pick #15 

Post#1688 » by giraldo5 » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:38 pm

interbasket wrote:
emunney wrote:You said he was laughably terrible "the whole time he was with Olympiacos". That would include his Greek League games.

He also made all-Euroleague 2nd team. Crazy for one of the worst players in the league to be honored in that way.


The only crazy thing I see right now in this forum, is a bunch of NBA fans trying to claim a dreadful awful player like Childress was the best at anything, and one of the best in Europe, Greece, whatever.

From now on emunney, when you start criticizing me for not knowing about NBA, and all this other stuff, I will just laugh. Because clearly, I know tons more about NBA than you do. It's clear to me you have never even seen Josh Childress play basketball and that you clearly have no idea who he even is.

This guy is a scrub of the highest magnitude. And anyone saying they are NBA fan or Olympiacos fan or whatever that claims Childress is anything other than a terrible player - that person has never actually seen Josh Childress play basketball.

Childress = scrub in Greek League, scrub in Euroleague, scrub in NBA.

And you obviously have an incredibly limited basketball knowledge. No reason for me to be insulted by your snide comments here anymore, as now I just realize that you don't even know anything about NBA players, let alone guys in Europe.



No kidding. Em what are you thinking? The X-Man was easily a better player than Iggy
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Re: Milwaukee Bucks Pick Giannis with pick #15 

Post#1689 » by emunney » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:41 pm

The terrible scrubs who shared the All Euroleague 2nd Team with Josh Childress:

Bo McCaleb
Ramunas Siskauskas
Erazem Lorbek
Tiago Splitter

Looks like Spanoulis didn't make it. A shame.
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Post#1690 » by interbasket » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:42 pm

giraldo5 wrote:No kidding. Em what are you thinking? The X-Man was easily a better player than Iggy


http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... nxa01.html

So, you guys like emunney actually have an extremely limited NBA knowledge.......OK, no wonder you know nothing about European basketball, you guys like emunney don't even have a basic NBA knowledge.
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Re: Milwaukee Bucks Pick Giannis with pick #15 

Post#1691 » by emunney » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:43 pm

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No kidding. Em what are you thinking? The X-Man was easily a better player than Iggy


Definitely, at his peak. I was joking about him not being named Xavier McDonald. Was he better by the time he played in Greece than Iggy is now? Dubious.

Was Ricky Pierce at 39 better than Iggy is now? These are the claims being made.
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Re: Milwaukee Bucks Pick Giannis with pick #15 

Post#1692 » by theFireBlanket » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:44 pm

interbasket wrote:
theFireBlanket wrote:So, where are Childress' Greek League stats if those are only what he put up in Euroleague?

Is 2pt fg separated from 3pt fg without a total fg%? His total would then be 53.18%.


Yes. And all the guys here like emunney can see that, but they are just trying to start a flame war. Actually, I looked, and Wikipedia has his stats:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Childress

Not sure if they are correct, but they have the FG % there. At the Euroleague page, Greek League stats are listed under "other competition". You can just simply do it yourself on a calculator using the Euroleague page.

None of the leagues in the world except NBA list FG%.


http://www.draftexpress.com/stats.php?y ... ce=&sort=9

Emunney just cited these, maybe you should have a look. According to that page Josh was 8th in FG% for the season. 6.3 makes per game out of 10.2 attempts per game (2 & 3 pt attempts).
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Re: Milwaukee Bucks Pick Giannis with pick #15 

Post#1693 » by yannisk » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:45 pm

emunney wrote:
yannisk wrote:
Regarding his fg I don't know what it was in euroleague but the year before in Atlanta he had 57%
was he tearing the nba?


No, but he was a very low volume player in the NBA, and was never named all-NBA 2nd team.


I think it had a lot to do with the hype of his signing. He was presented as an 'nba star',
his team reached the final, voters paid more attention to him than they would if he had put the same performance as a an undrafted player for example.
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Re: Milwaukee Bucks Pick Giannis with pick #15 

Post#1694 » by giraldo5 » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:45 pm

emunney wrote:
giraldo5 wrote:
No kidding. Em what are you thinking? The X-Man was easily a better player than Iggy


Definitely, at his peak. I was joking about him not being named Xavier McDonald. Was he better by the time he played in Greece than Iggy is now? Dubious.

Was Ricky Pierce at 39 better than Iggy is now? These are the claims being made.



I was being sarcastic. The X Man was very good in his prime. Not so much by the time he arrived in Greece as our friend is suggesting.
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Re: Milwaukee Bucks Pick Giannis with pick #15 

Post#1695 » by smpalome » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:46 pm

emunney wrote:The terrible scrubs who shared the All Euroleague 2nd Team with Josh Childress:

Bo McCaleb
Ramunas Siskauskas
Erazem Lorbek
Tiago Splitter

Looks like Spanoulis didn't make it. A shame.


Actually this is unfair about Spanoulis. 2009-10 was the only season Spanoulis wasnt on first or second ALL-Euroleague team
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Re: Milwaukee Bucks Pick Giannis with pick #15 

Post#1696 » by interbasket » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:48 pm

theFireBlanket wrote:
interbasket wrote:
theFireBlanket wrote:So, where are Childress' Greek League stats if those are only what he put up in Euroleague?

Is 2pt fg separated from 3pt fg without a total fg%? His total would then be 53.18%.


Yes. And all the guys here like emunney can see that, but they are just trying to start a flame war. Actually, I looked, and Wikipedia has his stats:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Childress

Not sure if they are correct, but they have the FG % there. At the Euroleague page, Greek League stats are listed under "other competition". You can just simply do it yourself on a calculator using the Euroleague page.

None of the leagues in the world except NBA list FG%.


http://www.draftexpress.com/stats.php?y ... ce=&sort=9

Emunney just cited these, maybe you should have a look. According to that page Josh was 8th in FG% for the season. 6.3 makes per game out of 10.2 attempts per game (2 & 3 pt attempts).


As I said, the only league in the world that lists FG% is the NBA.

The official stats, right from the Greek league itself:

http://esake.gr/main/index.php?pl=12&ln ... Q9MTI1OQ==

if you still don't want to accept this, click on the game links, which will break down EACH game's shots.

For example,

http://esake.gr/main/index.php?pl=42&ln ... lkPTEyNTk=

Now add the shots attempts up for 2s and 3s and free throws and compare it to the points scored. PROOF that they don't list FG% like emunney is claiming.
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Re: Milwaukee Bucks Pick Giannis with pick #15 

Post#1697 » by emunney » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:48 pm

giraldo5 wrote:
emunney wrote:
giraldo5 wrote:
No kidding. Em what are you thinking? The X-Man was easily a better player than Iggy


Definitely, at his peak. I was joking about him not being named Xavier McDonald. Was he better by the time he played in Greece than Iggy is now? Dubious.

Was Ricky Pierce at 39 better than Iggy is now? These are the claims being made.



I was being sarcastic. The X Man was very good in his prime. Not so much by the time he arrived in Greece as our friend is suggesting.


Gotcha. I think the things being said in my thread are throwing Poe's Law into overdrive for me.
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Re: Milwaukee Bucks Pick Giannis with pick #15 

Post#1698 » by emunney » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:49 pm

interbasket wrote:
theFireBlanket wrote:
interbasket wrote:
Yes. And all the guys here like emunney can see that, but they are just trying to start a flame war. Actually, I looked, and Wikipedia has his stats:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Childress

Not sure if they are correct, but they have the FG % there. At the Euroleague page, Greek League stats are listed under "other competition". You can just simply do it yourself on a calculator using the Euroleague page.

None of the leagues in the world except NBA list FG%.


http://www.draftexpress.com/stats.php?y ... ce=&sort=9

Emunney just cited these, maybe you should have a look. According to that page Josh was 8th in FG% for the season. 6.3 makes per game out of 10.2 attempts per game (2 & 3 pt attempts).


As I said, the only league in the world that lists FG% is the NBA.

The official stats, right from the Greek league itself:

http://esake.gr/main/index.php?pl=12&ln ... Q9MTI1OQ==

if you still don't want to accept this, click on the game links, which will break down EACH game's shots.

For example,

http://esake.gr/main/index.php?pl=42&ln ... lkPTEyNTk=

Now add the shots attempts up for 2s and 3s and free throws and compare it to the points scored. PROOF that they don't list FG% like emunney is claiming.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

First time I've ever done that. Felt pretty good.

Thanks for supplying the evidence that I was 100% correct.
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Re: Milwaukee Bucks Pick Giannis with pick #15 

Post#1699 » by DukeH » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:49 pm

So what time does Greece play?
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Re: Milwaukee Bucks Pick Giannis with pick #15 

Post#1700 » by emunney » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:50 pm

DukeH wrote:So what time does Greece play?


12:15 cst / 1:15 est
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