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Post#1681 » by Stannis » Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:09 am

JEIS wrote:I would legit still stick with fuel cell. They are partnered with Exxon and Toyota. They are working on a hydrogen city in Japan. It is still a great buy. Very undervalued (think rookie Giannis). Legit could see this going hella big. They have carbon capture tech that produces energy that can be sold to oil companies and is an untapped source of revenue for them. Big reason why Exxon partnered with them. They had horrible management and sh#t canned them. Brought in Jason Few worked for Marathon oil back in the day and dude has been lights out so far. They may also have the opportunity to do a crap ton of work out in California with PG&E if the make their time lines less stringent. There is even potential for them to eventually be bought out by one of the bigger guys, and that would shoot the stock up as well. They will likely turn a nice profit this upcoming quarter causing the stock to shoot up. They have re-occuring revenue on their fuel cells, and have some of the longest lasting fuel cells out there. It may go down in price test closer to $2 if the bears get worried, or the market backtracks. I could see this being a $20 to $50+ stock with its potential and the way the world is going with the green initiative.

I just started to mess with a few penny stocks.. Buy them low and flip them sell high buy low. Zom Ensv Trnx....(these are typically pump and dump stocks) Make a few hundred and put that money into better more stable stocks, Fcel the main one.


I also buy stocks at lows.... Disney @ $89 Haliburton which was at $20+ not long ago. $6ish range
Bought Sea world under $9

All recent.

Basically, Better companies higher risk higher reward. Companies that covid screwed with that will likely bounce back if things settle down.. They may, or may not.

I Bought Spce cheapish... Kind of Tesla like in the way that it is overvalued, but people love it.

Nicola Vectolq Hydrogen car company and In the business of Hydrogen fuel stations

I just I try to research and follow the stocks nd determine market value... see what is happening with them. I read up on them a lot and take calculated risks. Some money I allot to longshot go big or go home stocks.

I messed up big time last week. I was trying to buy canntrust when it went to .03... but didn't have a platform to purchase it... I signed up for Ameritrade and had to wait for money to clear... took too damn long and I missed out. So bummed. Up to .50 today.
I got burned when it was delisted, tried to make it up by buying it low, and it sucked. Between that and the Packers draft I have been a crank ass all weekend.

It was like a winning lotto ticket going through the wash.


One other boom or bust stock is hysr... I am going to buy 1,000,000 share and sit on it. I currently only have 35,000 Waiting for my commission check to come in. It is a unique solar company that uses sunlight and water to create energy. Stock is valued at like .0052 cents. This one is way more risky than fuel cell, but it could be a decent stock to work with even if it goes up a couple cents, you could make hella bank. Live on your own island kind of stock if it does well... Or you lose a few grand and lick your wounds.

Also, (Umbilical cord) Stem cell companies... I was just looking into those recently and they are booming... I got to them about a week late. Some up 150% last week. Waiting and hoping they go down some.


Dang son. Where do you get all you info on these stocks? I will probably have to sign up for a TD Ameritrade account too. I believe they are the best platform for penny stocks from what I read.

Canntrust would have been a sick pick up. I thought that one was going to dissolve completely.

Hysr definitely sounds interesting.

I can't get over the name for Nicola. Seems like a Tesla ripoff. But that may be a good thing.

I bought Disney around the same time you did. I remember people in Reddit were saying it was too early lol.

My average for SPCE is like 30 bucks. Not great at all. This was a pure FOMO buy lmao. I learned my lesson. Though, I wish I bought more when it was touching 10 bucks in March.
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Post#1682 » by JEIS » Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:41 am

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JEIS wrote:I would legit still stick with fuel cell. They are partnered with Exxon and Toyota. They are working on a hydrogen city in Japan. It is still a great buy. Very undervalued (think rookie Giannis). Legit could see this going hella big. They have carbon capture tech that produces energy that can be sold to oil companies and is an untapped source of revenue for them. Big reason why Exxon partnered with them. They had horrible management and sh#t canned them. Brought in Jason Few worked for Marathon oil back in the day and dude has been lights out so far. They may also have the opportunity to do a crap ton of work out in California with PG&E if the make their time lines less stringent. There is even potential for them to eventually be bought out by one of the bigger guys, and that would shoot the stock up as well. They will likely turn a nice profit this upcoming quarter causing the stock to shoot up. They have re-occuring revenue on their fuel cells, and have some of the longest lasting fuel cells out there. It may go down in price test closer to $2 if the bears get worried, or the market backtracks. I could see this being a $20 to $50+ stock with its potential and the way the world is going with the green initiative.

I just started to mess with a few penny stocks.. Buy them low and flip them sell high buy low. Zom Ensv Trnx....(these are typically pump and dump stocks) Make a few hundred and put that money into better more stable stocks, Fcel the main one.


I also buy stocks at lows.... Disney @ $89 Haliburton which was at $20+ not long ago. $6ish range
Bought Sea world under $9

All recent.

Basically, Better companies higher risk higher reward. Companies that covid screwed with that will likely bounce back if things settle down.. They may, or may not.

I Bought Spce cheapish... Kind of Tesla like in the way that it is overvalued, but people love it.

Nicola Vectolq Hydrogen car company and In the business of Hydrogen fuel stations

I just I try to research and follow the stocks nd determine market value... see what is happening with them. I read up on them a lot and take calculated risks. Some money I allot to longshot go big or go home stocks.

I messed up big time last week. I was trying to buy canntrust when it went to .03... but didn't have a platform to purchase it... I signed up for Ameritrade and had to wait for money to clear... took too damn long and I missed out. So bummed. Up to .50 today.
I got burned when it was delisted, tried to make it up by buying it low, and it sucked. Between that and the Packers draft I have been a crank ass all weekend.

It was like a winning lotto ticket going through the wash.


One other boom or bust stock is hysr... I am going to buy 1,000,000 share and sit on it. I currently only have 35,000 Waiting for my commission check to come in. It is a unique solar company that uses sunlight and water to create energy. Stock is valued at like .0052 cents. This one is way more risky than fuel cell, but it could be a decent stock to work with even if it goes up a couple cents, you could make hella bank. Live on your own island kind of stock if it does well... Or you lose a few grand and lick your wounds.

Also, (Umbilical cord) Stem cell companies... I was just looking into those recently and they are booming... I got to them about a week late. Some up 150% last week. Waiting and hoping they go down some.


Dang son. Where do you get all you info on these stocks? I will probably have to sign up for a TD Ameritrade account too. I believe they are the best platform for penny stocks from what I read.

Canntrust would have been a sick pick up. I thought that one was going to dissolve completely.

Hysr definitely sounds interesting.

I can't get over the name for Nicola. Seems like a Tesla ripoff. But that may be a good thing.

I bought Disney around the same time you did. I remember people in Reddit were saying it was too early lol.

My average for SPCE is like 30 bucks. Not great at all. This was a pure FOMO buy lmao. I learned my lesson. Though, I wish I bought more when it was touching 10 bucks in March.


Mostly google the heck out of the company.. Looks at the news. Write down pertinent info also,
Market Beat
Motley Fool
Business insider
The stock market watch
Forbes
Wallstreet Journal
Ameritrade shows institutional buying

Some companies will e-mail shareholders info.


I go on stocktwits some too... Usually, you can get a some info on there.. Kind of a pulse on the daily market trends. You have to weed through some of the crap and crazy there, but you can find some stocks that are going to be pumped and typically make some easy money.

Also, Looking up when new IPOs come out. Get in early and it can be good. I try to buy stocks mostly I believe in.

I did the same fomo buy with Spce. at $24-$28.. Just averaged down when it tanked.
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Post#1683 » by Stannis » Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:23 pm

You guys think there is a chance demand for oil can remain more or less the same?

I get more people will be working remotely. However, this past weekend, a group of 10 people were meeting somewhere to go somewhere else. We went in 7 different cars because of social distancing. We usually only take 2-3.

See where I am getting at?

Are people in cities going to have to start using their cars over public transportation? Are people going to no longer car pull?
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Post#1684 » by M-C-G » Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:30 pm

Stannis wrote:You guys think there is a chance demand for oil can remain more or less the same?

I get more people will be working remotely. However, this past weekend, a group of 10 people were meeting somewhere to go somewhere else. We went in 7 different cars because of social distancing. We usually only take 2-3.

See where I am getting at?

Are people in cities going to have to start using their cars over public transportation? Are people going to no longer car pull?


Not something I have studied, but with minimal airline demand, minimal consumer demand for gas and more on hand crude than they know what to do with, I'd be extremely cautious.

I don't see an angle that makes sense until either this reserve is churned through or airlines and consumer travel have rebounded. I have been watching airlines daily and I just don't see why the price isn't dropping more. If you think about the billions lost by the big airlines in Q1, keep in mind, that was probably 6 weeks of that quarter that were normal. Now picture 12 weeks of this, routes shut down, furloughs, etc. I think there will be a time coming, maybe 8-10 weeks or so where airlines are a value, but until that industry bounces back I have a hard time seeing oil rebound.

I guess this is an assumption that jet fuel is made from oil and the industry uses as much of it when operating normally as I expect.
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Post#1685 » by M-C-G » Tue Apr 28, 2020 6:42 pm

And **** airlines are surging while announces cancelling of routes, billion dollar losses....makes no sense other than when I talk about airlines they go up in a way that doesn't make any sense.
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Post#1686 » by vital_signs » Wed Apr 29, 2020 1:00 pm

Today I will get past the losses from earlier this year, thank you marathon petroleum, us foods, sysco, IWM, and Yeti. What's everyone been loading up on?
Inadequate perception I reckon it's from the Valium
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Post#1687 » by Stannis » Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:46 pm

vital_signs wrote:Today I will get past the losses from earlier this year, thank you marathon petroleum, us foods, sysco, IWM, and Yeti. What's everyone been loading up on?

I've been deloading if anything.

But after March 23rd these new stocks kept me in the green: SYY, FANG, VLO, RDS.B, ULTA, SWKS, DAL

I'm considering shorting my oil stocks and Delta though.

Sysco was a recommendation from somebody here, so a big thanks to you. You da man!
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Post#1688 » by vital_signs » Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:48 pm

Stannis wrote:
vital_signs wrote:Today I will get past the losses from earlier this year, thank you marathon petroleum, us foods, sysco, IWM, and Yeti. What's everyone been loading up on?

I've been deloading if anything.

Yeah should have worded it as "what has everyone been loading up on in the past weeks" as taking some profit now is probably a good idea. Don't see how this will continue without another dip. I think it was MD who suggested the recovery will be more like a W than a V and I agree with that sentiment.

edit - i also suggested sysco 8-) but someone probably suggested it before me. Glad this board is making some good calls as a group.
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Post#1689 » by M-C-G » Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:13 pm

Stannis wrote:
vital_signs wrote:Today I will get past the losses from earlier this year, thank you marathon petroleum, us foods, sysco, IWM, and Yeti. What's everyone been loading up on?

I've been deloading if anything.

But after March 23rd these new stocks kept me in the green: SYY, FANG, VLO, RDS.B, ULTA, SWKS, DAL

I'm considering shorting my oil stocks and Delta though.

Sysco was a recommendation from somebody here, so a big thanks to you. You da man!


Airlines are up big again today...makes no sense to me, but the next quarter earning are going to have to be terrible. I have never shorted, I hate the idea of good people losing their investments and rooting for it for my profit, but I just can't see how these prices are sustainable at all.
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Post#1690 » by Stannis » Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:23 pm

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Stannis wrote:
vital_signs wrote:Today I will get past the losses from earlier this year, thank you marathon petroleum, us foods, sysco, IWM, and Yeti. What's everyone been loading up on?

I've been deloading if anything.

But after March 23rd these new stocks kept me in the green: SYY, FANG, VLO, RDS.B, ULTA, SWKS, DAL

I'm considering shorting my oil stocks and Delta though.

Sysco was a recommendation from somebody here, so a big thanks to you. You da man!


Airlines are up big again today...makes no sense to me, but the next quarter earning are going to have to be terrible. I have never shorted, I hate the idea of good people losing their investments and rooting for it for my profit, but I just can't see how these prices are sustainable at all.


It has to do with Gilead's potential vaccine again.

But that's shortsighted reasoning. A vaccine doesn't mean everybody will be able and willing to travel.
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Post#1691 » by MickeyDavis » Wed Apr 29, 2020 4:58 pm

I believe Gilead's drug is a treatment, not a vaccine. In any case I still think this will be a W, not a V.
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Post#1692 » by midranger » Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:12 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:I believe Gilead's drug is a treatment, not a vaccine. In any case I still think this will be a W, not a V.

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Post#1693 » by BucksFanSD » Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:13 pm

Oxford scientists are hopeful in putting out a vacine by September. That is why there is no surprise stocks are responding accordingly. That is regardless of whatever earnings they put out now. Stock market cares about longer term and not so much doom/gloom of today.
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Post#1694 » by WeekapaugGroove » Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:19 pm

BucksFanSD wrote:Oxford scientists are hopeful in putting out a vacine by September. That is why there is no surprise stocks are responding accordingly. That is regardless of whatever earnings they put out now. Stock market cares about longer term and not so much doom/gloom of today.
Good news but man using a vax with such a short testing timeframe is a little scary.

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Post#1695 » by humanrefutation » Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:37 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
BucksFanSD wrote:Oxford scientists are hopeful in putting out a vacine by September. That is why there is no surprise stocks are responding accordingly. That is regardless of whatever earnings they put out now. Stock market cares about longer term and not so much doom/gloom of today.
Good news but man using a vax with such a short testing timeframe is a little scary.

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Yeah, it gives me pause, too. But I imagine the data will have to be pretty strong - dependent in part by what we know about other vaccines and how similar this vaccine will be - in order to justify deploying it that quickly.
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Post#1696 » by Nowak008 » Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:07 am

vital_signs wrote:Today I will get past the losses from earlier this year, thank you marathon petroleum, us foods, sysco, IWM, and Yeti. What's everyone been loading up on?


I've been looking at companies that use a bunch of plastic since oil is down so much. I bought Tupperware and it is up a bit. Anyone else have any plastic based companies that they might be interested in?
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Post#1697 » by BUCKnation » Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:56 am

Bought some A-list tech companies at lows like Apple and Microsoft as well as some casino stocks, which have all done well over the last week or two.
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Post#1698 » by steger_3434 » Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:50 am

My company announced first quarter sales and earnings above plan, but projected year end sales to actually be below last year. To me that would be a death blow to a sales focused company. However our stock went up $35 to finish at $540 and now only around $50 less than what it was before this collapse started. I am worried about the next month or so, however.


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Post#1699 » by Stannis » Thu Apr 30, 2020 1:07 pm

Nowak008 wrote:
vital_signs wrote:Today I will get past the losses from earlier this year, thank you marathon petroleum, us foods, sysco, IWM, and Yeti. What's everyone been loading up on?


I've been looking at companies that use a bunch of plastic since oil is down so much. I bought Tupperware and it is up a bit. Anyone else have any plastic based companies that they might be interested in?

That sounds like a pretty good pick. They already used the Covid excuse for bad earnings. But I would think their sales would go up with everyone cooking at home.
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Post#1700 » by sidney lanier » Thu Apr 30, 2020 1:31 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:
Stannis wrote:
Not to say we can't go down again.


I think the market is going to be a lot more like a W than a V.


So do I. Actually more like WWW dot crazy. We've never seen any kind of non-organic economic crash like this (or maybe I should say this is the first truly "organic" crash), nor have we seen the Fed willing to say **** it, just keep cranking out Franklins till we tell you to stop.

All the old bromides about national debt, all the old images of Alan Greenspan bloviating OMG we can't do that and awaken the inflation monster, all gone like a bad dream. I thought Krugman had an interesting column the other day on the current deficit and overall debt:

Peacocks and Vultures Are Circling the Deficit
The only fiscal thing to fear is deficit fear itself.


There was a time when you'd never see this kind of opinion about the national debt expressed by anybody in the public press, much less by a Nobel-Prize-winning economist:

Soaring unemployment will cause federal revenues to plunge, and also lead to a surge in spending on safety-net programs like unemployment insurance, Medicaid and food stamps. Add in the large relief packages Congress has passed, and the budget office projects a deficit that will temporarily rise to levels we haven’t seen since World War II, and it expects federal debt to rise to 108 percent from 79 percent of G.D.P., which sounds scary.

But the government will be able to borrow that money at incredibly low interest rates. In fact, real interest rates — rates on government bonds protected against inflation — are negative. So the burden of the additional debt as measured by the rise in federal interest payments will be negligible. And no, we don’t have to worry about paying off the debt; we never will, and that’s OK.


Debt>GDP, and that's OK? Um, OK with me, I guess, but it sure is different. Meanwhile, on Wall Street, and speaking of cognitive dissonance, I almost feel guilty looking at my portfolio and how well it's doing amid all this suffering, unemployment, and death. We live in a very strange time.

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