ImageImage

Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018

Moderators: paulpressey25, MickeyDavis

User avatar
Dante80
Pro Prospect
Posts: 766
And1: 842
Joined: Apr 18, 2017
Location: Athens :: Greece
   

Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1681 » by Dante80 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:46 pm

Give Marshall some minutes in the two coming games. If he cannot help, then trade for a cheap backup 5 so as to lighten Thons' load (Thon should not be playing so many minutes) and guard against a C injury. Trading a C for a C does not make sense right now btw.

No major moves now. In the off-season, and when the coach position is decided, do a move.
Image
User avatar
paulpressey25
Senior Mod - Bucks
Senior Mod - Bucks
Posts: 62,817
And1: 30,081
Joined: Oct 27, 2002
     

Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1682 » by paulpressey25 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:47 pm

emunney wrote:Out of curiosity, where would you put the % chance of Jabari blowing another ACL over the next 5 years? Studies I've read put the reinjury rate after a revision for athletes who return to their previous sport LOWER than the reinjury rate after an initial reconstruction. I think we might be focusing on the wrong issues when we focus on the reinjury risk.
.


I think he'll come back the same player he was last year. He's a freak of nature athletically.

Based on zero scientific evidence, I'd put it at 50-50 he has another ACL blow out in the next five years. Just my gut feel based on his body mass and shake and bake, leaping aspects to his game. Just sets up for another injury.
In depth discussions here - shorter stuff on Twitter

https://twitter.com/paulpressey25
User avatar
BroncoBuck
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,034
And1: 3,217
Joined: May 19, 2015
     

Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1683 » by BroncoBuck » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:48 pm

Dante80 wrote:Give Marshall some minutes in the two coming games. If he cannot help, then trade for a cheap backup 5 so as to lighten Thons' load (Thon should not be playing so many minutes) and guard against a C injury. Trading a C for a C does not make sense right now btw.

No major moves now. In the off-season, and when the coach position is decided, do a move.


He can only spend so many days with the Bucks. They are probably saving him for a more important stretch than this.
BucksTuga
Junior
Posts: 327
And1: 193
Joined: Jul 16, 2016
 

Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1684 » by BucksTuga » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:48 pm

raferfenix wrote:
From that perspective I'm thinking I'd rather go for a cheaper center like Rolo vs a more expensive one where we have to deal Jabari.


Lopez is on a 14M 2 year contract. Henson´s is 10M/9M/8M. How the hell is he "cheaper"? And overral he´s not a better fit than Chipotle John right now. Can´t understand the love for the guy.
xTitan
RealGM
Posts: 17,135
And1: 2,283
Joined: Mar 03, 2006
     

Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1685 » by xTitan » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:06 pm

BucksTuga wrote:
raferfenix wrote:
From that perspective I'm thinking I'd rather go for a cheaper center like Rolo vs a more expensive one where we have to deal Jabari.


Lopez is on a 14M 2 year contract. Henson´s is 10M/9M/8M. How the hell is he "cheaper"? And overral he´s not a better fit than Chipotle John right now. Can´t understand the love for the guy.

I don't know those 4.8 rebounds per game just might put you over the top...
User avatar
Prez
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 27,333
And1: 44,671
Joined: Jan 26, 2015
 

Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1686 » by Prez » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:09 pm

Dedmon is the guy. Just get him or some other cheap-ish backup C and make it to the playoffs healthy.
User avatar
Dante80
Pro Prospect
Posts: 766
And1: 842
Joined: Apr 18, 2017
Location: Athens :: Greece
   

Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1687 » by Dante80 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:15 pm

How do you get Dedmon? Wilson+Vaughn?
Image
User avatar
Ron Swanson
RealGM
Posts: 26,096
And1: 30,098
Joined: May 15, 2013

Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1688 » by Ron Swanson » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:16 pm

RoLo has never really been a good rebounder, it's not just this season. And it's not a Steven Adams situation where he's "actually a really good box out guy and rebounder but the raw numbers don't show it" either. He's just a smart pick & roll/help defender who gives you a little something on offense with that pick & pop mid-range jumper.

He's a guy on a good contract who I'd love on the team if we already had him, but once again a big hell no to the idea of giving anything of value up for him. So yeah, and some of you guys will love this, but he's basically the Tony Snell of centers.
User avatar
Matches Malone
RealGM
Posts: 37,338
And1: 27,476
Joined: Nov 23, 2005
     

Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1689 » by Matches Malone » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:20 pm

Jimmmycrackcorn wrote:i will never forgive this organization for drafting DJ Wilson

most useless pick of all time


Yup! Have hated it every step of the way. I was in disbelief when his name was announced by Silver during the draft. Usually if the guy I want doesn't get picked, I can talk myself into the player the Bucks do take. Not Wilson. Can't do it. He's bad.
Gery Woelfel wrote:Got a time big boy?
User avatar
Prez
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 27,333
And1: 44,671
Joined: Jan 26, 2015
 

Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1690 » by Prez » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:22 pm

Dante80 wrote:How do you get Dedmon? Wilson+Vaughn?

Wonder what it'd take for them to take on Delly's deal too.
skones
RealGM
Posts: 37,108
And1: 17,267
Joined: Jul 20, 2004

Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1691 » by skones » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:23 pm

I wonder if Brooklyn would take a look at Rashad Vaughn for Tyler Zeller. Still think he's criminally underrated over there in Brooklyn.

or

Wilson for Zeller/2nd
User avatar
mlloyd10
General Manager
Posts: 8,097
And1: 970
Joined: Jan 18, 2012
     

Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1692 » by mlloyd10 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:24 pm

Prez wrote:
Dante80 wrote:How do you get Dedmon? Wilson+Vaughn?

Wonder what it'd take for them to take on Delly's deal too.


Plumlee
User avatar
Magic Giannison
RealGM
Posts: 27,848
And1: 27,302
Joined: Aug 08, 2014
   

Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1693 » by Magic Giannison » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:52 pm

Read on Twitter


Get a C and we good boys
mubucks00
Sophomore
Posts: 135
And1: 69
Joined: May 30, 2017
 

Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1694 » by mubucks00 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:57 pm

Forgive me if this has been discussed before.. but what is the stat I'm suppose to be looking at that says Dedmon is some sort of upgrade over Henson? Weight?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/dedmode01.html
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hensojo01.html
User avatar
ackypoo
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,543
And1: 3,358
Joined: Jan 03, 2013
 

Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1695 » by ackypoo » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:59 pm

mubucks00 wrote:Forgive me if this has been discussed before.. but what is the stat I'm suppose to be looking at that says Dedmon is some sort of upgrade over Henson? Weight?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/dedmode01.html
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hensojo01.html

hes not. he replaces thon. having 2 hensons on our roster right now would make us a lot better.

this is the most youre going to get out of me for eating **** on henson. hes been...good this year.
User avatar
Wonka
General Manager
Posts: 9,398
And1: 6,200
Joined: Aug 19, 2012
 

Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1696 » by Wonka » Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:06 pm

Dedmon is great defender, good athlete, floor spacer and is probably younger than Thon. It's a no brainer
Profound23
RealGM
Posts: 20,986
And1: 8,620
Joined: Jun 29, 2005
     

Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1697 » by Profound23 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:08 pm

M-C-G wrote:
Profound23 wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Yeah, they're open to trading him because BAM! is the real deal, and they've been nearly splitting the Center minutes down the middle for the last 15 or so games (26/21 for Whiteside/BAM respectively).


Remember how many Bucks fans celebrated when Miami took BAM because they feared he would fall to us?


Were there really? I don't recall (not disputing it). BAM wasn't at the top of my list because I liked options that fell into the second round (though I am glad we got Sterling), but I don't think I would have been unhappy with it.

Actually I am pretty certain that Ivan Raab and DJ Wilson were the only two guys that I really did not want.


YEP! On most of the prospects last year I felt “wait and see” even BAM. I may be exaggerating how many, but there were a few celebrating when Miami took him like we dodged a bullet. I can’t believe our GMs first draft pick was DJ, I really hope that was more Kidd (or anyone else) instead of Horst.

As far as Centers, I can go either way. I’m still fine with bringing in Bogut for a 1 year deal. I would also be fine with trading any combo of Middleton/Telly, Middleton/Delly, Bledsoe/Telly, or Bledsoe/Delly for Whiteside but I doubt they would do that. I wouldn’t mind Many of the other option so either.....just don’t want to go into the postseason with Henson as our only average center.

Yes, I know we have Thon, but he isn’t a center and right now he isn’t at least average.
Feel_the_Heat15
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,238
And1: 3,457
Joined: Jun 22, 2015
       

Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1698 » by Feel_the_Heat15 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:11 pm

I'd give you guys Whiteside and TJ for Maker, Terry, Delly, Teletovic and a 1st and 2nd round pick with protections on both.

EDIT: Ignore this trade.
User avatar
Ron Swanson
RealGM
Posts: 26,096
And1: 30,098
Joined: May 15, 2013

Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1699 » by Ron Swanson » Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:13 pm

Eh, that Tyler Johnson deal is gross. And I like Tyler Johnson.
User avatar
Wisky4life
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,342
And1: 1,235
Joined: Feb 05, 2014
Contact:

Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1700 » by Wisky4life » Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:15 pm

mlloyd10 wrote:
Prez wrote:
Dante80 wrote:How do you get Dedmon? Wilson+Vaughn?

Wonder what it'd take for them to take on Delly's deal too.


Plumlee


Dedmon and Bellinelli for Delly, Maker and Wilson. That's how it is done.
“We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees.” –Jason Kidd

Return to Milwaukee Bucks