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[Fotis St]

Bogdan is a year older than Fournier, is he a better player? He’s 5 years older than Donte and I’m not even sure that I’d start him over DDV. $17mil?

I am sure you don't know that Bogdan has been coached multiple years by one of the greatest coach ever, a future Hall of Fame coach, Euroleague's Popovich +more, Mr Obradovic. He has some mamba mentality in him. I am saying he is probably tougher mentally than Hield and a bit more athletic than Fournier who is really good too. Hield had a streaky good 3pt shooting year, Bogdan has been an elite shooter and closer throughout his whole career.

[tski1972]

Bogdan is a year older than Fournier, is he a better player? He’s 5 years older than Donte and I’m not even sure that I’d start him over DDV. $17mil?

Bogdan is significantly better than DDV.

Let's be real here.

Watch him for a minute.

He's a scorer, a shooter, a ballhandler and a great passer.

I'll need to learn more about his defense, but this guy would add a whole new element to our offense and relieve a significant amount of pressure off Khris and Giannis

Watch on YouTube

The old “career high highlight clip to sway people’s mind” trick.

[SupremeHustle]

A wing who can shoot/dribble/pass? He’s a well rounded offensive player and we need more of that.

Yes we do and he’s an upgrade on Pat but George Hill is a better player than Bogdan. Are we clearing Hills salary to pay Bogdan twice as much?

Hill looked cooked until he got here, this offense is tailor made for guys like Bogdan. It's not a huge leap to assume that Bogdan could put up numbers similar to Midds. I also don't understand the logic of not bringing a guy in because we have a guy that can do some of what he does already. Like there is a limit on having talented guys.

And the truth is we don't have guys who can do what he does. A legit 6'6" playmaker who you have to guard all over the floor would be a difference-maker even in Bud's "offense".

[emunney]

Bogdan is a year older than Fournier, is he a better player? He’s 5 years older than Donte and I’m not even sure that I’d start him over DDV. $17mil?

Bogdan is significantly better than DDV.

Let's be real here.

Watch him for a minute.

He's a scorer, a shooter, a ballhandler and a great passer.

I'll need to learn more about his defense, but this guy would add a whole new element to our offense and relieve a significant amount of pressure off Khris and Giannis

Watch on YouTube

Sure but DDV is 23 and Bogdan is 28. DDV is a significantly better defender. George Hill can do everything that Bogdan can with better defense so what element is Bogdan adding?

Bogdan's not taking minutes from those guys and made more 3s than anybody on our roster last year.

[SupremeHustle]

Bogdan is a year older than Fournier, is he a better player? He’s 5 years older than Donte and I’m not even sure that I’d start him over DDV. $17mil?

Bogdan is significantly better than DDV.

Let's be real here.

Watch him for a minute.

He's a scorer, a shooter, a ballhandler and a great passer.

I'll need to learn more about his defense, but this guy would add a whole new element to our offense and relieve a significant amount of pressure off Khris and Giannis

Watch on YouTube

The old “career high highlight clip to sway people’s mind” trick.

We're in the clutches of a heated political season. But you can definitely see some things in those clips.

[Ron Swanson]

I'm not gonna pretend that I watched a lot of Kings games last season, but there seems to be a big gap between the perception of how good Bogdan is and what he's actually produced in his short career thus far. Unless he's got some Steve Nash in him, he's pretty old for a guy constantly bandied about as a "break-out" candidate. I'd be much more intrigued if you could pair him with CP3, even if it meant giving up Hill and BroLo in addition to Bled. But as the sole "big move" while shuffling deck chairs around the rest of the roster? Meh....

[DingleJerry]

I'd agree he's not the only move to put them over the hump. But they need more than one player and he fits exactly what they need. I mean how many on here spent the last month going 'man sure wish we had a guy like Herro, he'd fit so well with what we need'. Well, this is someone like that. Get him and get an upgrade at PG who can shoot and you've significantly changed things for the better.

[Badgerlander]

Bogdan is significantly better than DDV.

Let's be real here.

Watch him for a minute.

He's a scorer, a shooter, a ballhandler and a great passer.

I'll need to learn more about his defense, but this guy would add a whole new element to our offense and relieve a significant amount of pressure off Khris and Giannis

Watch on YouTube

Sure but DDV is 23 and Bogdan is 28. DDV is a significantly better defender. George Hill can do everything that Bogdan can with better defense so what element is Bogdan adding?

Bogdan's not taking minutes from those guys and made more 3s than anybody on our roster last year.

If we are getting Bogdan at the veterans minimum to replace Wes then sure we are adding more ball handling and worse defense. We could have just started Hill at SG though but we didn’t because we lacked depth at PG. Between Bogdans salary and having to trade for him I feel like we are going to give up more depth. So it’s seems likey that Bogdan replaces Hills contributions, probably trade DDV away, and we add more guys like Wes and Pat that can’t dribble for the minimum. Is that a win?

[German Athens]

Do people think a schroder, bogdan pairing makes us significantly improved? I’m asking because I think we would have the assets likely to pull both deals off.

[jvalin]

Apparently, the Rockets are willing to move on from Westbrook.

With Houston president Daryl Morey stepping down a year after his controversial retweet about China/Hong Kong, league sources believe the Rockets are likelier to look into trading away explosive All-Star point guard Russell Westbrook.

“I can’t imagine they are keeping Harden and Russ together,’’ one NBA executive said. “Russ excels best as the best player on a team and Harden needs outside shooters around him – not a ball-dominant guard. I think Russ will be the one traded.’’

Assuming Westbrook leaves Houston, how about Bledsoe for Covington straight up?


https://tradenba.com/trades/mDpn2Yifl

[Badgerlander]

I'd agree he's not the only move to put them over the hump. But they need more than one player and he fits exactly what they need. I mean how many on here spent the last month going 'man sure wish we had a guy like Herro, he'd fit so well with what we need'. Well, this is someone like that. Get him and get an upgrade at PG who can shoot and you've significantly changed things for the better.

Adding a guy like Herro would be great but we are talking about adding a guy like Fournier

[Fotis St]

If we get Bogdan by mid season you will be asking if he is better than Middleton and why on earth we are paying Khris double/triple his money

[EastSideBucksFan]

Bogdan is a year older than Fournier, is he a better player? He’s 5 years older than Donte and I’m not even sure that I’d start him over DDV. $17mil?

Bogdan is significantly better than DDV.

Let's be real here.

Watch him for a minute.

He's a scorer, a shooter, a ballhandler and a great passer.

I'll need to learn more about his defense, but this guy would add a whole new element to our offense and relieve a significant amount of pressure off Khris and Giannis

Watch on YouTube

Sure but DDV is 23 and Bogdan is 28. DDV is a significantly better defender. George Hill can do everything that Bogdan can with better defense so what element is Bogdan adding?

George Hill *could* do *some* of what Bogdan is doing here but back in 2010 not here in 2020

Bogdan is a ballhandler and a playmaker and a shooter and a scorer

Those elements. Those 4 elements in a wing player that this team desperately needs.

[SupremeHustle]

Random stat I just noticed: Of the Bucks' last five draft picks, only 2 of them have ever scored 20 points or more in a game. Malcolm Brogdon and...

[theFireBlanket]

No DDV in Bogdan trades. He's going to breakout eventually & his overall positive impact is already there.

[emunney]

Sure but DDV is 23 and Bogdan is 28. DDV is a significantly better defender. George Hill can do everything that Bogdan can with better defense so what element is Bogdan adding?

Bogdan's not taking minutes from those guys and made more 3s than anybody on our roster last year.

If we are getting Bogdan at the veterans minimum to replace Wes then sure we are adding more ball handling and worse defense. We could have just started Hill at SG though but we didn’t because we lacked depth at PG. Between Bogdans salary and having to trade for him I feel like we are going to give up more depth. So it’s seems likey that Bogdan replaces Hills contributions, probably trade DDV away, and we add more guys like Wes and Pat that can’t dribble for the minimum. Is that a win?

If that's the formulation, I'm not in favor of it. What I'm suggesting is to trade Bled for him, have a stable 3 guard rotation of Hill-Donte-Bogdan with Joseph and Frank for ball handling depth, scooch Wes up to forward, say goodbye to at least 2/3 of Korver/Pat/Sterling. Draft BPA and use FA for other depth -- ideally one of these guys will also be able to handle the ball so you can add a 4th guard and keep Hill down in the low 20s during the regular season, so draft Maledon and sign Millsap and Gabriel, or draft Woodard and sign Melton or Napier, something like that.

[emunney]

Random stat I just noticed: Of the Bucks' last five draft picks, only 2 of them have ever scored 20 points or more in a game. Malcolm Brogdon and...

Sterling had that game against the Hawks. That it?

[SupremeHustle]

Random stat I just noticed: Of the Bucks' last five draft picks, only 2 of them have ever scored 20 points or more in a game. Malcolm Brogdon and...

Sterling had that game against the Hawks. That it?

Yep.

[emunney]

Random stat I just noticed: Of the Bucks' last five draft picks, only 2 of them have ever scored 20 points or more in a game. Malcolm Brogdon and...

Sterling had that game against the Hawks. That it?

Yep.

Wasn't sure if he was counted as a Bucks' draft pick. Because Kevin Porter destroyed the Heat last year!

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[soxperry]

No DDV in Bogdan trades. He's going to breakout eventually & his overall positive impact is already there.

Well, maybe..

Pros: Exceptional instincts in help defense, capable of making timely defensive plays that lead to transition opportunities, seems to enjoy taking big shots and plays with a swagger more often than not.

Cons: Isn't a great shooter, struggles hitting layups, can create a little but it's mostly for jumpers (see item 1). He doesn't have the athleticism to really separate and explode and he isn't tall or long enough to make that small amount of separation matter when going to the hoop...and for all his proficiency in help defense i wouldn't call him a plus one on one defender.

Now it was his first full season and it was played under some extremely weird circumstances. We all saw him kinda fall apart at times. I think he's mentally tougher than that going forward but it's probably a long shot for him to develop into an all around great player. I think it's possible he can develop into a nice 3 and D glue guy if his shot improves but that's probably the ceiling.

All that being said.. I do not want to trade him unless we can get a real superstar in return.