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[Shaffty]

Listening to the latest Lowe Post. Boston has six of the top nine players between the two teams and a depth advantage, I guess.

just completely glosses over how unstoppable the Bucks offense will be lol

[tedbrogen]

Khris is a statue in comparison. It's just not his game. He's an iso guy whose efficiency is declining because his athleticism is declining.

...After Midds came back the second time, he had a .575 TS%. As good as any year he's had except for 19/20.

He put up 24/6/6 vs the Heat while putting up a 62% TS% vs the Heat in the playoffs without Giannis most of the series.

Like.... I mean, come on. I know it's hard but don't let reality get in the way of group think.

And we found out after the fact that he put up those numbers against the Heat on basically one leg. His game doesn’t need a lot of athleticism to age well.

[Prez]

Listening to the latest Lowe Post. Boston has six of the top nine players between the two teams and a depth advantage, I guess.

Would be a miracle if the scrappy underdog Bucks even took one game off that juggernaut. If they did Giannis is easily top 3 all time.

[tedbrogen]

Listening to the latest Lowe Post. Boston has six of the top nine players between the two teams and a depth advantage, I guess.

just completely glosses over how unstoppable the Bucks offense will be lol

But the Celtics D will shut them down. The guy who gave up 56 to Butler and 87 year old Horford will easily shut down Giannis.

[Matches Malone]

Lowe sucks now.

[blazza18]

Listening to the latest Lowe Post. Boston has six of the top nine players between the two teams and a depth advantage, I guess.

Enjoyed how he was worried about Brook being old and Midds being injured then glossed over any concerns around Horford.

I am listening to less and less national media podcasts.

[Shaffty]

Listening to the latest Lowe Post. Boston has six of the top nine players between the two teams and a depth advantage, I guess.

Enjoyed how he was worried about Brook being old and Midds being injured then glossed over any concerns around Horford.

I am listening to less and less national media podcasts.

old zach lowe would be nonstop talking about how kristaps is fake good and actually bad

[skbucks1985]

There were some very, shall we say, puzzling comments from Lowe about this matchup. The Celtics have 6 of the top 9 and all I could think was I would take Brook Lopez over Kristaps Porzingis any second of the day. But both teams are top heavy and are going to have a lot of available minutes. I think he made a couple fair points about the Bucks really depending on the durability of Middleton and Brook, which is a valid point regardless of the fact that he very much dismissed the same concerns about Kristaps and Horford. And I would add the biggest difference between the concerns about each is that if Brook has a minor injury that'll keep him out the first 3 games of the series, the Bucks can weather that. I don't think Boston can weather Horford being out. I think he also made a good point about a 1 in 4 out lineup for Boston posing problems for the Bucks, but also immediately then undermined it with his Giannis doesn't defend perimeter guys well take which he had nothing to back up. But I do think that 1 in 4 out would pose problems for the Bucks if that's how Boston's going to play for 48 minutes. I think having Giannis defend Tatum is fine in the closing minutes but its far from ideal for him to do that for the entirety of the game.

[Prez]

Listening to the latest Lowe Post. Boston has six of the top nine players between the two teams and a depth advantage, I guess.

Enjoyed how he was worried about Brook being old and Midds being injured then glossed over any concerns around Horford.

I am listening to less and less national media podcasts.

Horford in the last 10 games of last postseason averaged 5.5 ppg on 34/23/50 splits (42% TS). Dude was approaching the cliff last postseason (if not falling off it already), is gonna be a year older next postseason, will also have significantly less help in battling Giannis, but nobody cares lol.

[ReasonablySober]

Kevin Pelton projects the Bucks to be 3rd in the East.

To be honest, of all the writers, his commentary is probably what drives me the most insane.

[Shaffty]

Intersting to me that the Bucks hired Dame's former HC of 9 years Terry Stotts and his former Althetic trainer of 5 years Jessica Cohen back in July...

[Shaffty]

Kevin Pelton projects the Bucks to be 3rd in the East.

To be honest, of all the writers, his commentary is probably what drives me the most insane.

imo it is important to remember that if you are actually good at analytics you either get rich from out betting vegas or are working for a team.

[Ron Swanson]

It's to the point where I honestly have to wonder if guys like Lowe are in on it. I mean, he does work for ESPN, so it kinda makes sense he'd have a vested interest in gassing up this Boston narrative. Can't go into the NBA season, the ultimate star/social media driven sport, with little 'ol Denver and Milwaukee looking like the two juggernauts destined to meet in the Finals.

[ReasonablySober]

I get and look past 99% of NBA commentary because it's just entertainment in the end.

But Pelton's intellectually dishonest data driven **** is absolutely insane. If your model believes the Bucks are winning 48 games in 2024 because of their point differential last year, BUILD A NEW F*CKING MODEL.

[skbucks1985]

Kevin Pelton projects the Bucks to be 3rd in the East.

To be honest, of all the writers, his commentary is probably what drives me the most insane.

imo it is important to remember that if you are actually good at analytics you either get rich from out betting vegas or are working for a team.

I saw a tweet a couple weeks ago that is completely unrelated to all of this, its actually about football, from Seth Walder who is an ESPN analytics writer and it showed such a lack of fairly basic statistical literacy that it actually prompted me to look up his bio and he has no formal subject matter knowledge, he was a beat writer at the NY Daily News before he got the ESPN job.

But that's obviously not Kevin Pelton and he was a statistical consultant for the Pacers from 2010-12 so he's not completely without any pedigree. But that term is also vague enough to be essentially meaningless.

[skbucks1985]

I get and look past 99% of NBA commentary because it's just entertainment in the end.

But Pelton's intellectually dishonest data driven **** is absolutely insane. If your model believes the Bucks are winning 48 games in 2024 because of their point differential last year, BUILD A NEW F*CKING MODEL.

When I saw the numbers my immediate thought was if I could ask Kevin Pelton one question it would be should I go put a ton of money on the Celtics to win the East? Because if you believe Boston is almost 6 games better than the next closest team in the East you should be making that bet immediately because you're getting fantastic value on them regardless of which book you use.

[BUCKnation]

Yeah, the last Lowe Post was a tough listen. As has been pointed out, he makes valid points for the Bucks without making similarly valid points for the Celtics. He mentions the 1 in 4 out offense for Boston like its a new thing, but they always run that against us and we always let Horford try to beat us.

The biggest issue for us in the matchup is that the celtics FG% goes up 10% on all forms of shots against us, in comparison to other teams, when they play the bucks, no matter the level of contest.

[ReginaldDwight]

Larry Sanders is up there as one of the biggest what if guys. I’m glad he’s happy now though and seemed to end up making a good choice for himself.

I think about that video of Larry in the club slipping around like a deer far too often.

[kanyon]

Intersting to me that the Bucks hired Dame's former HC of 9 years Terry Stotts and his former Althetic trainer of 5 years Jessica Cohen back in July...

If you want a train to come you gotta lay the tracks.