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Re: Ford Mock 6.0 #2 Embiid 

Post#1701 » by mlloyd10 » Wed May 28, 2014 7:10 pm

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PkrsBcksGphsMqt wrote:People need to stop touting trades that include our future 1st round picks. We were the WORST team in the league this year. We should be the last team in the league considering a trade that involves future first round picks. Next year's draft could very well be better than this year's. It has the potential to be the best big man draft in a generation. I'm not trading that pick for Marcus Smart.


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Post#1702 » by Nowak008 » Wed May 28, 2014 7:17 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:With Wiggins, Smart, Giannis and Sanders you are set at four positions for a lohg time IMO.

Not sure though how you acquire the pick that gets you Smart though.


Kitchen sink offer. 3 way deal.

Kings get Sanders, Wolters

Jazz get #8, Brandon Knight, Henson

Bucks get #5
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Re: Ford Mock 6.0 #2 Embiid 

Post#1703 » by mlloyd10 » Wed May 28, 2014 7:18 pm

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paulpressey25 wrote:With Wiggins, Smart, Giannis and Sanders you are set at four positions for a lohg time IMO.

Not sure though how you acquire the pick that gets you Smart though.


Kitchen sink offer. 3 way deal.

Kings get Sanders, Wolters

Jazz get #8, Brandon Knight, Henson

Bucks get #5



So we trade Sanders/Henson/Knight?wolters for #5? - Hell no
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Re: Ford Mock 6.0 #2 Embiid 

Post#1704 » by Matches Malone » Wed May 28, 2014 7:19 pm

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paulpressey25 wrote:With Wiggins, Smart, Giannis and Sanders you are set at four positions for a lohg time IMO.

Not sure though how you acquire the pick that gets you Smart though.


Kitchen sink offer. 3 way deal.

Kings get Sanders, Wolters

Jazz get #8, Brandon Knight, Henson

Bucks get #5


Sanders, Henson, Knight and Wolters for #5? I think I'd pass. That seems like a lot to give up. Who would we target at #5?
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Re: Ford Mock 6.0 #2 Embiid 

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paulpressey25 wrote:With Wiggins, Smart, Giannis and Sanders you are set at four positions for a lohg time IMO.

Not sure though how you acquire the pick that gets you Smart though.


Kitchen sink offer. 3 way deal.

Kings get Sanders, Wolters

Jazz get #8, Brandon Knight, Henson

Bucks get #5


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Post#1707 » by machu46 » Wed May 28, 2014 7:31 pm

I'd probably do that trade if it got us into the top 4 for a second pick at a stud, but not #5.

And I really do love Aaron Gordon. I think he's going to be a really good player in the NBA.
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Post#1708 » by Nowak008 » Wed May 28, 2014 7:43 pm

We haven't had an all star in 10 years. Think about that...10 freaking years! If we can push all our chips into the table for a high pick we gotta do it.
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Post#1709 » by Nowak008 » Wed May 28, 2014 7:44 pm

Smart, Wiggins, Yanni...figure rest out later.
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Post#1710 » by Matches Malone » Wed May 28, 2014 7:46 pm

Nowak008 wrote:Smart, Wiggins, Yanni...figure rest out later.


We already have Smart on the team in Knight.
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Re: Ford Mock 6.0 #2 Embiid 

Post#1711 » by crkone » Wed May 28, 2014 7:49 pm

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Nowak008 wrote:Smart, Wiggins, Yanni...figure rest out later.


We already have Smart on the team in Knight.


Except Knight can hit a 3 pointer.

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Re: Ford Mock 6.0 #2 Embiid 

Post#1712 » by WeekapaugGroove » Wed May 28, 2014 7:50 pm

JayMKE wrote:It's not a silly argument since Exum hasn't faced any competition, he's only played against players that he dominates physically. All those other guys have played against guys that can match up against them. I think it's real easy for a guy that is slight of frame to fall in love with his jump shot versus taking a beating inside, this is even more of a worry with scoring PGs that pound the rock. Exum has potential because of his god given gifts, I want more than that at #2.
Exum was pretty dang good in the Nike hoops summit in 2013. He didn't look over matched at all.

I don't know enough about him to say if he's better than wiggins or Parker but I think it's silly to totally disregard him because he didn't play against college competition.

Oh yeah none of these guys have character issues so I'm not sure why parker being a "good kid" matters at all.

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Re: Ford Mock 6.0 #2 Embiid 

Post#1713 » by paulpressey25 » Wed May 28, 2014 7:53 pm

Nowak008 wrote:Kitchen sink offer. 3 way deal.



We are giving up way too much there, but that said, it all depends on what Utah wants for that pick. I do agree that I'd have Knight, Henson, Sanders, Ersan, Middleton and the 2015 pick all in the mix. You have to give to get. I'd like to think Henson, Knight and 2015 top 3 protected would work for Utah. Then you draft Wiggins and Smart.

I'd hesitate slightly on offering Middleton and Ersan if we draft Embiid at #2, because I'd like those two guys to be our outside shooters in the Embiid and 4 shooters scenario.
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Re: Ford Mock 6.0 #2 Embiid 

Post#1714 » by PkrsBcksGphsMqt » Wed May 28, 2014 7:55 pm

Nowak008 wrote:We haven't had an all star in 10 years. Think about that...10 freaking years! If we can push all our chips into the table for a high pick we gotta do it.


You do know that we have the #2 overall pick already, right?
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Re: Ford Mock 6.0 #2 Embiid 

Post#1715 » by JustinCredible » Wed May 28, 2014 7:55 pm

Not that it means much, but 3 of these 4 writers have us taking Embiid at #2. All 4 have Embiid and Wiggins as the top 2 picks.

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Re: Ford Mock 6.0 #2 Embiid 

Post#1716 » by JayMKE » Wed May 28, 2014 7:56 pm

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JayMKE wrote:It's not a silly argument since Exum hasn't faced any competition, he's only played against players that he dominates physically. All those other guys have played against guys that can match up against them. I think it's real easy for a guy that is slight of frame to fall in love with his jump shot versus taking a beating inside, this is even more of a worry with scoring PGs that pound the rock. Exum has potential because of his god given gifts, I want more than that at #2.
Exum was pretty dang good in the Nike hoops summit in 2013. He didn't look over matched at all.

I don't know enough about him to say if he's better than wiggins or Parker but I think it's silly to totally disregard him because he didn't play against college competition.

Oh yeah none of these guys have character issues so I'm not sure why parker being a "good kid" matters at all.

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Post#1717 » by JayMKE » Wed May 28, 2014 7:58 pm

As long as there is some protection on our pick next year, I wouldn't be opposed to trading it. Like top 5 or even top 3 protection. You don't want to risk losing the #1 pick obviously.
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Re: Ford Mock 6.0 #2 Embiid 

Post#1718 » by Badgerlander » Wed May 28, 2014 8:05 pm

Smart seems more like the last piece for a team trying to make the playoffs than a piece to build a team around. He's an excellent defender and has a higher floor, but his ceiling is probably much lower than a guy like LaVine. Unless Smart gets drafted by the Spurs I think he ends up closer to being the next Tony Allen than the next Kawhi.
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Re: Ford Mock 6.0 #2 Embiid 

Post#1719 » by PkrsBcksGphsMqt » Wed May 28, 2014 8:05 pm

Another thing I don't understand about all of you guys pushing to trade our 2015 pick is why do you want to entrust Hammond with that responsibility?
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Re: Ford Mock 6.0 #2 Embiid 

Post#1720 » by Chuck Diesel » Wed May 28, 2014 8:07 pm

JayMKE wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:
JayMKE wrote:It's not a silly argument since Exum hasn't faced any competition, he's only played against players that he dominates physically. All those other guys have played against guys that can match up against them. I think it's real easy for a guy that is slight of frame to fall in love with his jump shot versus taking a beating inside, this is even more of a worry with scoring PGs that pound the rock. Exum has potential because of his god given gifts, I want more than that at #2.
Exum was pretty dang good in the Nike hoops summit in 2013. He didn't look over matched at all.

I don't know enough about him to say if he's better than wiggins or Parker but I think it's silly to totally disregard him because he didn't play against college competition.

Oh yeah none of these guys have character issues so I'm not sure why parker being a "good kid" matters at all.

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