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2017 NBA DRAFT Part 3

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Re: 2017 NBA DRAFT Part 3 

Post#1721 » by Beorn » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:38 pm

From those 4/5 types most likely available outside of the lottery, I like the most Bolden and Bell. I'm at the point of the year where I've read 2 dozen mocks and a trillion video reports on a very short time, and I think there are 37 HoFers in the draft :P
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Post#1722 » by Ron Swanson » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:40 pm

Yeah, at this point I'm not sure what you can love about Anigbogu other than his wingspan and age. Still think that he has somewhere around a Clint Capella ceiling, but he's got a long ways to go considering how raw he is. Also not really a freak athlete like everyone was hoping he'd be. I have Allen and BAM! pretty firmly ahead of him.
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Post#1723 » by Fotis St » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:42 pm

If we pick Bam I will be mad about the leak and not the pick ...
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Post#1724 » by lvckv » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:43 pm

BAM in the first. Monte Morris in the second
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Post#1725 » by Gam » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:43 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Yeah, at this point I'm not sure what you can love about Anigbogu other than his wingspan and age. Still think that he has somewhere around a Clint Capella ceiling, but he's got a long ways to go considering how raw he is. Also not really a freak athlete like everyone was hoping he'd be. I have Allen and BAM! pretty firmly ahead of him.


Strength and rim protection. He also seems like a very high character guy which is my main concern when it comes to BAM!.

That being said I'd be fine with us picking BAM!, but Allen would leave me feeling very down.

With the news of Moose opting in give me Bolden or Frank Jackson over any of the Cs projected to go in our range, I doubt we can move both Henson and Hawes.
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Re: 2017 NBA DRAFT Part 3 

Post#1726 » by M-C-G » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:44 pm

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Garbs_7 wrote:I don't watch a lot of college bball or anything have just been reading through profiles and stuff, but is Bam Adebayo Tristan Thompson?


I think Ike Anigbogu is a bigger version of TT in this draft. I prefer him to BAM, but I think if you can figure out which of the two of those guys is more likely to be able to hit a mid range shot consistently, they might be the better of the two.


I always was an Ike > BAM guy but I keep going back to their athletic testing and our system and I think BAM would do really well here.

BAM really did well at the Combine.

http://www.nbadraft.net/nba-draft-combine-athleticism-testing-analysis-0

Bam Adebayo, Kentucky

Out of all the big men at the combine, Adebayo probably turned in the most perspective-altering performance. He leapt like a guard, turning in a 38.5 inch max vert, and also placing among the overall top 10 at the combine in the standing vert. As a guy who already projects to primarily be a rim protector and an offensive rebounder and lob finisher, Adebayo did an excellent job of making his case as a guy who can beat his fellow big men to the ball on the offensive glass and can guard NBA centers.


Ike Anigbogu, UCLA

Despite receiving limited action as a freshman, the 18-year-old Anigbogu decided to enter the draft and hire an agent. At the combine, he didn’t fare so well, posting bottom 6 times in each of the speed and agility drills. As a guy who is also very raw in his skillset, he could certainly be in trouble. He's still a big, strong and very bouncy young big, but his lack of agility is a bit concerning.


Both guys fall in that "energy big" category. What worries me about BAM is scouting reports knock him for his inconsistent motor. I don't have that concern with Ike. But I am at the point where I don't want "energy" guys that don't play with consistent energy. Also Ike is a full year younger than BAM, I like his measurables more, and just think there is more upside in general. I won't be that disappointed with BAM though.
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Post#1727 » by BucksFanSD » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:45 pm

Fotis St wrote:If we pick Bam I will be mad about the leak and not the pick ...


We leak it 90% of the time it seems. Last year we leaked it with Thon. This organization is a little different than most. Thank goodness I don't think Giannis was leaked.
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Re: 2017 NBA DRAFT Part 3 

Post#1728 » by BMatt07 » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:45 pm

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Garbs_7 wrote:Ntilikina currently mocked to go 15, man if he goes one or two picks before us i'll be so sad...


Gotta trade up if thats the case. I dont know what it would take to go from say 17 to 15 but you get it done. I think Ntilinkina is going to be a legit PG and that is what we desperately need


This is the Dante Exum hype all over again.. a lanky foreign PG that no one knows much of anything about.

I think he will be considerably worse than Exum, which is saying a lot as he's a bum himself. Ntilikina is not a good ball handler, he can't handle pressure when pressed or in the pick-and-roll, he can't finish at the rim, and he's not overly athletic. He plays terrible competition yet has a 16% turnover rate compared to only a 13% assist rate, he's not a distributor.

I have no interest in Ntilikina whatsoever. I think he ends up being a 3-and-D guard. You can get the same player by drafting Dorsey in the 2nd round and use your first round pick elsewhere.
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Post#1729 » by bango_the_buck » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:46 pm

| Height w/o shoes | Height w/ shoes | Weight | Wingspan | Standing reach | No step vert | Max vert

Player A: | 6'8 ½" | 6'10" | 248 | 6'11 ¼" | 8'9" | 32" | 35.5" |

Player B: | 6'8 ¾" | 6'9 ¾" | 243 | 7'2 ¾" | 9'0" | 33.5" | 38.5" |

Player B is BAM. Player A?

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Post#1730 » by emunney » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:47 pm

I continue to be unsettled by how durable DX's De Paula to MKE pick has been over the past week+.
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Post#1731 » by BUCKnation » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:47 pm

Why was Ike so limited for game time at UCLA? I feel like he may have entered due to hype expecting to get exposed a bit when Ball and Leaf are not there next year.
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Post#1732 » by M-C-G » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:48 pm

BUCKnation wrote:Why was Ike so limited for game time at UCLA? I feel like he may have entered due to hype expecting to get exposed a bit when Ball and Leaf are not there next year.


Had knee surgery before the season, so probably had some restrictions and fouled a TON
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Post#1733 » by skones » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:52 pm

emunney wrote:I continue to be unsettled by how durable DX's De Paula to MKE pick has been over the past week+.

Woof.

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Post#1734 » by Ron Swanson » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:53 pm

If DX's mock plays out the way it's projected I'll be really upset if we don't A) Trade up two measly spots to get Ntilikina, or B) Pass on OG Anunoby.
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Post#1735 » by skones » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:53 pm

bango_the_buck wrote:| Height w/o shoes | Height w/ shoes | Weight | Wingspan | Standing reach | No step vert | Max vert

Player A: | 6'8 ½" | 6'10" | 248 | 6'11 ¼" | 8'9" | 32" | 35.5" |

Player B: | 6'8 ¾" | 6'9 ¾" | 243 | 7'2 ¾" | 9'0" | 33.5" | 38.5" |

Player B is BAM. Player A?

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Does that make Patrick Patterson Blake Griffin too?

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Post#1736 » by M-C-G » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:54 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:If DX's mock plays out the way it's projected I'll be really upset if we don't A) Trade up two measly spots to get Ntilikina, or B) Pass on OG Anunoby.


Taking Paula over Dorsey or Thornwell would be a major disappointment for me
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Post#1737 » by Fotis St » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:55 pm

From all the volleyball -Biyombo type- players BAM has the highest FT% 65... which is not good enough for me but at least he is playable and probably fixable

PS I would never draft one of these players with my first round pick ... I would find a similar one who is undrafted or in D-League.
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Post#1738 » by Badgerlander » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:56 pm

emunney wrote:I continue to be unsettled by how durable DX's De Paula to MKE pick has been over the past week+.

yeah, pretty sure we can grab him as an undrafted free agent if we wanted to
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Post#1739 » by bango_the_buck » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:57 pm

skones wrote:
bango_the_buck wrote:| Height w/o shoes | Height w/ shoes | Weight | Wingspan | Standing reach | No step vert | Max vert

Player A: | 6'8 ½" | 6'10" | 248 | 6'11 ¼" | 8'9" | 32" | 35.5" |

Player B: | 6'8 ¾" | 6'9 ¾" | 243 | 7'2 ¾" | 9'0" | 33.5" | 38.5" |

Player B is BAM. Player A?

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Post#1740 » by Ron Swanson » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:59 pm

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Ron Swanson wrote:If DX's mock plays out the way it's projected I'll be really upset if we don't A) Trade up two measly spots to get Ntilikina, or B) Pass on OG Anunoby.


Taking Paula over Dorsey or Thornwell would be a major disappointment for me


I'm surprised that people wouldn't like taking a flier on De Paula considering he was a pretty hot name the last two years. Kid still has some intriguing potential, versatility, and physical tools. Also doesn't have a broken jump shot. Whereas I think that a guy like Dorsey is gonna have to be a lights out shooter just to stay in the league.

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