Giannis Thread - On Asking for a Trade - "I am not this kind of guy, they would have to kick me out”.

[BigO]

If Giannis is on the Bucks this time next year, then his value is diminished a lot, with only one year left. It's why it's important for the owners to see if they can work out something with Giannis now. Get a verbal commitment or something that he will stay. If he is silent, I pursue the Flagg trafe.

Giannis has no incentive to play his cards now, but the Bucks have a lot at stake to do it now.

[Ron Swanson]

That Spurs package is probably still the best if Giannis asks out (#2, #14, Castle, Atlanta picks) but I'm kinda out on Devin Vassell as any sort of potential building block type player. He low-key kinda sucks. Keldon Johnson/Barnes as salary filler with a few more additional firsts/swaps is much more preferable IMO.

[jmuelly]

Finally listened to that podcast with Chris Mannix that was going around...he literally said it would be front office malpractice for us to keep Giannis lol

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Yes, malpractice to roll with arguably the best player alive and most dominant player in the Association in his prime. What a joke.

Posturing at its best. Until Giannis tells the team he wants out or wont resign, you don't trade him. Everything he's ever said from loyalty in his DNA, to the thread title I'm not acting out of fear because the media tried to persuade me. Now if you know he wont resign and you retain him and get nothing in return, then yes it's malpractice. Until that happens you keep him.

Look at a guy like Dirk. Won 1 title, stuck around some very good teams but never got a 2nd title. I think it becomes easier to stick around when you've already gotten that title. So many these stars we've seen trade places are simply searching for their 1st title. Had Dame won a title in Portland, he probably rides it out too doesn't he?

[jmuelly]

Until any of these rumors cite sources beyond speculation, or belief it's just click bait for me. The media for years has tried to force Giannis out of Milwaukee, no surprise. I understand now more than ever the timing and direction suggests anything is possible. Until we hear he really does want out, I don't foresee any scenario we trade him.

This is where I’m at. I just don’t believe any of these click bait stories. They come around every time Giannis has a decision to make. I’m now seeing articles about Giannis being open to playing for teams in states with no state income tax. This was a story being circulated last time he was unclear about signing an extension. I just think that some guys are trying to generate headlines and clicks and have no real insight.

No state income tax and who are the teams being mentioned in trade scenarios?

Houston, San Antonio, Dallas possibly.

Funny how 3 rumors teams fit that media narrative, but not 1 legitimate source providing firsthand or reliable content. When they use words like speculation or believe, I don't take it serious either.

[jschligs]

When is Giannis eligible to sign an extension? I obviously don't expect him to rush it, and I bet he'll wait until the cards fall into place this season to decide his future.

[Ron Swanson]

When is Giannis eligible to sign an extension? I obviously don't expect him to rush it, and I bet he'll wait until the cards fall into place this season to decide his future.

October 1st, 2026 according to Spotrac. Which is why all the "they need to get out in front of this" media talk is hilarious. You have two full off-seasons to re-tool and convince Giannis to re-sign unless he forces your hand.

[CharityStripe34]

When is Giannis eligible to sign an extension? I obviously don't expect him to rush it, and I bet he'll wait until the cards fall into place this season to decide his future.

October 1st, 2026 according to Spotrac. Which is why all the "they need to get out in front of this" media talk is hilarious. You have two full off-seasons to re-tool and convince Giannis to re-sign unless he forces your hand.

Milwaukee is being selfish though. C'mon, the national media needs new content.

[German Athens]

When is Giannis eligible to sign an extension? I obviously don't expect him to rush it, and I bet he'll wait until the cards fall into place this season to decide his future.

October 1st, 2026 according to Spotrac. Which is why all the "they need to get out in front of this" media talk is hilarious. You have two full off-seasons to re-tool and convince Giannis to re-sign unless he forces your hand.

I think they have that wrong. Check out page 249 of the cba for veteran extensions.

Since Giannis signed a 3 year extension on October 23rd, 2023, he would be eligible on the second anniversary of that signing. So, October 2025.

Edit: Nevermind, it looks like it’s probably October 1st, 2026 like you stated. He signed his extension the day before the start of the regular season

[aboveAverage]

When is Giannis eligible to sign an extension? I obviously don't expect him to rush it, and I bet he'll wait until the cards fall into place this season to decide his future.

October 1st, 2026 according to Spotrac. Which is why all the "they need to get out in front of this" media talk is hilarious. You have two full off-seasons to re-tool and convince Giannis to re-sign unless he forces your hand.

Milwaukee is being selfish though. C'mon, the national media needs new content.

How dare they keep their generational superstar that they drafted and developed and won a championship with? How dare they try to retool for a second Giannis era? Only GSW, the Lakers, Mavs, Knicks, Philly, the Heat, and all the franchises the media likes get to do that! /s

[Ron Swanson]

When is Giannis eligible to sign an extension? I obviously don't expect him to rush it, and I bet he'll wait until the cards fall into place this season to decide his future.

October 1st, 2026 according to Spotrac. Which is why all the "they need to get out in front of this" media talk is hilarious. You have two full off-seasons to re-tool and convince Giannis to re-sign unless he forces your hand.

I think they have that wrong. Check out page 249 of the cba for veteran extensions.

Since Giannis signed a 3 year extension on October 23rd, 2023, he would be eligible on the second anniversary of that signing. So, October 2025.

I don't see 2025 anywhere else. Spotrac and Hoopshype have it as 2026. Marks confirms as much in his obnoxious ESPN article:

Antetokounmpo is under contract for the next three seasons, with 2027-28 as a player option. The 30-year-old two-time MVP will be eligible to sign a four-year, $293.4 million extension in the 2026 offseason -- with the Bucks or with a potential new team.

[ReasonablySober]

When is Giannis eligible to sign an extension? I obviously don't expect him to rush it, and I bet he'll wait until the cards fall into place this season to decide his future.

October 1st, 2026 according to Spotrac. Which is why all the "they need to get out in front of this" media talk is hilarious. You have two full off-seasons to re-tool and convince Giannis to re-sign unless he forces your hand.

I think they have that wrong. Check out page 249 of the cba for veteran extensions.

Since Giannis signed a 3 year extension on October 23rd, 2023, he would be eligible on the second anniversary of that signing. So, October 2025.

I believe the Designated Veteran Player Extension rule comes into play here, and that means the soonest he could sign an extension is three years after the initial extension was signed.

[German Athens]

October 1st, 2026 according to Spotrac. Which is why all the "they need to get out in front of this" media talk is hilarious. You have two full off-seasons to re-tool and convince Giannis to re-sign unless he forces your hand.

I think they have that wrong. Check out page 249 of the cba for veteran extensions.

Since Giannis signed a 3 year extension on October 23rd, 2023, he would be eligible on the second anniversary of that signing. So, October 2025.

I believe the Designated Veteran Player Extension rule comes into play here, and that means the soonest he could sign an extension is three years after the initial extension was signed.

Yeah, you’re both correct. My mistake. I had to keep reading further down into the vet extension section of the CBA.

October 1st, 2026 would be the date.

[machu46]

Finally listened to that podcast with Chris Mannix that was going around...he literally said it would be front office malpractice for us to keep Giannis lol

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Yes, malpractice to roll with arguably the best player alive and most dominant player in the Association in his prime. What a joke.

Posturing at its best. Until Giannis tells the team he wants out or wont resign, you don't trade him. Everything he's ever said from loyalty in his DNA, to the thread title I'm not acting out of fear because the media tried to persuade me. Now if you know he wont resign and you retain him and get nothing in return, then yes it's malpractice. Until that happens you keep him.

Look at a guy like Dirk. Won 1 title, stuck around some very good teams but never got a 2nd title. I think it becomes easier to stick around when you've already gotten that title. So many these stars we've seen trade places are simply searching for their 1st title. Had Dame won a title in Portland, he probably rides it out too doesn't he?

Mannix was basically saying that the report that Giannis is open to playing for other teams now was Giannis' nice way of saying he wants out, and if Milwaukee holds onto him for another year, he won't be as nice about it next offseason. And he said Giannis has made it clear to anyone that will listen that he doesn't want to be like Dirk, wasting his remaining years on a team with no chance to win. I stopped listening shortly thereafter lol.

[humanrefutation]

Assuming Giannis cannot extend until 2026, I'm not sure we can risk waiting. He is under contract for two more years, and October 2026 puts him in the final year of his deal. You don't want to go into next summer with him on a one year deal, especially after a lost season. Our potential return will be significantly less.

The Bucks don't look set up for success next year. With Doc still in tow, there is no new, fresh, brilliant head coach coming in who can turn our fortunes around. We don't have many exciting tradeable assets. We have our 2031 and 2032 picks, but the potential return for either pick is questionable, and I'm terrified at the thought of moving them with Giannis potentially wanting out.

We can keep Giannis and hope for the best. He's shown himself to be loyal to this franchise and city. And hell, maybe next offseason we make enough radical changes to the roster that Giannis decides to extend. But it's a major risk.

[paulpressey25]

Mannix was basically saying that the report that Giannis is open to playing for other teams now was Giannis' nice way of saying he wants out, and if Milwaukee holds onto him for another year, he won't be as nice about it next offseason. And he said Giannis has made it clear to anyone that will listen that he doesn't want to be like Dirk, wasting his remaining years on a team with no chance to win. I stopped listening shortly thereafter lol.

Related to Mannix where he was right was talking about victory totals. Team won 48 games with Dame playing 58 games. Do the Bucks now work the heck out of Giannis to get to 41 wins? Doesn’t Giannis then want out next year with a 41 win team.

I’m not a big believer that Dame is/was the answer at PG. That said, his volume stats help you get regular season wins and give Giannis a night off.

[CannondaleF400]

I wish we could get a new coach who could get Giannis to play in a more team-based offense. With a better offensive strategy Giannis could win here with decent guys around him. The iso ball and so many guys standing around watching Giannis in the Pacers series was really frustrating to watch.

[machu46]

Mannix was basically saying that the report that Giannis is open to playing for other teams now was Giannis' nice way of saying he wants out, and if Milwaukee holds onto him for another year, he won't be as nice about it next offseason. And he said Giannis has made it clear to anyone that will listen that he doesn't want to be like Dirk, wasting his remaining years on a team with no chance to win. I stopped listening shortly thereafter lol.

Related to Mannix where he was right was talking about victory totals. Team won 48 games with Dame playing 58 games. Do the Bucks now work the heck out of Giannis to get to 41 wins? Doesn’t Giannis then want out next year with a 41 win team.

I’m not a big believer that Dame is/was the answer at PG. That said, his volume stats help you get regular season wins and give Giannis a night off.

I get that, but he was also saying the best player we can get this offseason is someone like Cam Payne. I have to imagine we can do much better than that with the NTMLE at our disposal. I mean, KPJ alone would be a much more preferable option than Payne IMO and I don't even really like KPJ lol.

I also thought his comment that OKC would probably be more willing to trade for Giannis if he was on a $20 million per year kind of contract was just ridiculous. I get that it becomes tougher to retain depth once you have Giannis and Shai both on max deals, but (1) it's still doable and (2) you'd also have two of the top 3 players in the NBA.

[aboveAverage]

Assuming Giannis cannot extend until 2026, I'm not sure we can risk waiting. He is under contract for two more years, and October 2026 puts him in the final year of his deal. You don't want to go into next summer with him on a one year deal, especially after a lost season. Our potential return will be significantly less.

The Bucks don't look set up for success next year. With Doc still in tow, there is no new, fresh, brilliant head coach coming in who can turn our fortunes around. We don't have many exciting tradeable assets. We have our 2031 and 2032 picks, but the potential return for either pick is questionable, and I'm terrified at the thought of moving them with Giannis potentially wanting out.

We can keep Giannis and hope for the best. He's shown himself to be loyal to this franchise and city. And hell, maybe next offseason we make enough radical changes to the roster that Giannis decides to extend. But it's a major risk.

I’d take the risk. If we have to trade Giannis later on and get less value, so be it. I’m riding out the Giannis prime years as long as possible and try to improve the team enough around the edges. I still think it’s our best move.

Maybe we get lucky with other teams having injuries in the playoffs or them having to ship out good players because of the second apron. Maybe Horst hits on a few underrated pickups. Maybe some internal player improvement works out better than expected. If we hire a good coach next season, our chances of contention get even better. Point being, with a generational superstar, it doesn’t take much to get back to title contention.

[Ron Swanson]

Yeah, I'm sure OKC would balk at the idea of throwing in Isaiah Joe and Aaron Wiggins as salary filler in a Giannis trade *eye roll*. These guys always start with a sensible premise, but they just can't help themselves and eventually delve into these kind of clown takes about financials and other dumb **** to justify why Bucks fans shouldn't be asking for the kitchen sink in these discussions (we absolutely should be). Like yes, I also would prefer having an MVP superstar only taking up 14% of my salary cap. Is he trying to make any sort of point? Or is he just filling content?

[Dick Tate]

The will he want out/will he be traded angle is actually a great strategy for the off season. Giannis plays it well.