Wisconsin Badgers Thread

[midranger]

Mors is transferring.

I’ve been worried that he couldn’t beat Gilmore/Carlson. Going to assume he was just a bad miss until proven otherwise. We need bodies for next year.

[Kerb Hohl]

Mors is transferring.

I’ve been worried that he couldn’t beat Gilmore/Carlson. Going to assume he was just a bad miss until proven otherwise. We need bodies for next year.

Opening more spots to take several transfer guards/wings I would hope.

[chonestown]

Mors is transferring.

I’ve been worried that he couldn’t beat Gilmore/Carlson. Going to assume he was just a bad miss until proven otherwise. We need bodies for next year.

Potroykus had a tweet that Moops made strides physically. Looks like my fever dream of MM tomahawking one on the domepiece of Julius Marble and screaming "Moops upside your head" will remain just that.

Apparently homesick for the Dakotas I don't know which of the Dakotas does it really matter. Anticipating an announcement where he enrolls at Florida Gulf Coast or some other geographically more farflung locale. Alando must have tapped into the frequency of Mors' dental fillings and transmitted anti-Gard propaganda. Worth investigating.imo

[Diggr14]

Sounds like he expected minutes as well.

He will get them with the Jackrabbits or ironically Iowa State. Best of luck to him.

Program needs to accentuate it is a 4-5 year program. Stop blowing smoke up their ass (i kind of doubt they do) that they can come in and compete for minutes... when likely they wont. 18 year olds sometimes think way more of their own game than others do... go figure.

From what i hear, he isnt bad and has some talent. It's too bad, because Crowl looked like **** toward the end of the season. Carlson hasnt done anything to own any guaranteed minutes. They are light in the front court next season. Other than Wahl - it should be wide open IMO.

[DingleJerry]

Yea I had good hopes for him being a good stretch 4 type who can actually shoot. For now just have to take the homesick for it's face value because playing time is wide open for the taking for him next year if he'd stayed. Only two frontcourt spots with guaranteed mins in Crowl/Wahl.

Thing is there isn't really major college level programs close to home for him. I guess MN gets closest but really what's the difference between there and MSN, you're still not easy drive distance. Maybe IA St too and note I've never looked up exactly where in the Dakotas he's from

[MikeIsGood]

South Dakota. Got my money on the Jackrabbits. 2 hour drive from his HS.

[DingleJerry]

South Dakota. Got my money on the Jackrabbits. 2 hour drive from his HS.

Yea then he's choosing to go down from the major level. Which of course is fine, it's his life and if that makes him happy go for it. You don't get the big games on national TV, big crowds, famous environments, connections from a major university post career, etc. But everyone values things differently.

[tski1972]

They basically need one of everything from the transfer portal now, team has no depth whatsoever.

[ReasonablySober]

Wonder how much they're gonna be willing to pay for these transfers.

[MikeIsGood]

Wonder how much they're gonna be willing to pay for these transfers.

I hear we have a local-ish shoe store that could be interested in NIL deals.

[Kerb Hohl]

If you read the other boards and also the tea leaves that he had a ton of hype as a HS sophomore/junior but then *crickets* it's that he basically plateaued and was an early bloomer.

He had no marketable skill when arriving. 6'7", not all that quick or strong, not the best shooter. But this is what he was as a freshman and sophomore in HS as well, which is why they recruited him so heavily.

Not a major loss. They need like 2 or 3 transfer guards pending Bowman's status, so here's an open scholarship.

[Kerb Hohl]

I didn't really comment and was at the game. Probably would say a lot of stuff that most others would. First off, I'd like to apologize for going to the game. I don't go to many games as it is not living that close, having little kids, etc. but I've been offered "can't pass up" tickets to this game, the 49ers game 2 months ago, etc. and boy I have bad luck! This was my 2nd game since the 2015 title game.

Once Hepburn went down I pretty much said, "steal this game and cut the movie to black. We aren't going anywhere after this." Of course then Miami won. I went to get in the bathroom/beer line as they reviewed the play before 1.2 seconds at half. I told my friends they should just update the score to give Iowa State 2 or 3 points because we'll **** this up. Viola.

Teams went more and more to playing all of the percentages against the Badgers. Fill the paint when Wahl touched the ball and cut off all of his spin lanes, get a guy in Davison's face the entire game, let Davis have space for a 3 but don't let him drive. The last one is the riskiest because Davis *can* hit 3s. Well, he didn't on Sunday.

I was a bit knee-jerk begging for more guards that can shoot, but we're gonna need several this offseason.

[buckboy]

Tough loss. No chance without Chucky. Not much else to say really.

[Kerb Hohl]

Wonder how much they're gonna be willing to pay for these transfers.

The game is evolving so there may be more and more big-time guys on the move, but I think this is a bit oversold.

Hey, I get and understand that Chucky Hepburn getting a few grand for tweeting out about Raising Cane's could be huge for him, but...

In basketball recent years, there are like 10 *huge* transfers that can either be All Conference contributors or NBA prospects (think the Hausers, Walker Kessler recently).

After that list of 10 big-time gets I'm sure there are like 50 "he could fit nicely in the lineup" type of guys. I'm assuming you're not going to have to pay much or anything at all to get the next Xavier Johnson (a nice starting PG for Indiana, not anywhere near an All Conference team).

Beyond that, you're in Chris Vogt and Jahcobi Neath territory. Are you asking a booster/sponser group to gather $50k for that?

We might want to get in the game for one big-time guy in that top 50 or so grouping to start at guard/wing in Davis' stead. Beyond that, I doubt we'd be doing much in the money game.

[DingleJerry]

Off topic, but after seeing a Micah Potter tweet in the last day or so it got me thinking what if he'd stayed this year and used his covid year. He seemed to love his time here, loves Gard/Davison, etc so had the right attitude. OF course, he made the right choice to play for money and if I recall got a few games in the Association with all the covid stuff, but it just got me thinking how good they could've been with him too since they were so weak at the bigs spot.

[Kerb Hohl]

Off topic, but after seeing a Micah Potter tweet in the last day or so it got me thinking what if he'd stayed this year and used his covid year. He seemed to love his time here, loves Gard/Davison, etc so had the right attitude. OF course, he made the right choice to play for money and if I recall got a few games in the Association with all the covid stuff, but it just got me thinking how good they could've been with him too since they were so weak at the bigs spot.

I will use this as a springboard for some talking points. Obviously I'm very pro-Gard, "Wisconsin Way," etc. We use the portal when we need it and have done nicely.

Two things I worry about that somewhat relate to Potter and his style of play:

-We may be slightly too confident in the "recruit and develop" for modern play. I'm mostly talking about the bench slots. We've gone out and gotten Potter and I think will get a higher level transfer this year when we have a starting spot open. And while we added Neath and Vogt (and Lindsey) this year, I do worry that we may go into next year thinking we can rub the magic UW development pixy dust on Davis, Bowman (maybe), Lindsey, Neath, or I guess Essegian (freshman) and assume that will be fine for the non-Hepburn and non-transfer (I hope) guard positions. And we will be burned when any depth is needed.

I've heard some decent things about Hodges but ditto there. We need a guy that can truly back up Crowl at the 5. Carlson is not big enough IMO so you need another guy. I worry they may be overconfident on Hodges there. Which brings me to my next point...

-We've always had a "type" at center. A stretch 5. Hodges may actually break this mold slightly if he's big enough to play the 5, but we've always had the Kaminsky, Nankivil, Crowl, Reuvers, etc. type. Nigel was at least a bit stronger but I wouldn't call him the 5, assumed to be the primary rebounder and guard the inside force on the other team. Now, Potter played a big soft as well, but I bring this up because he was one of the few super athletic guys we've had and he had to come from outside the program. I'm not even sure what we can do here because if a big can shoot AND is athletic/strong to be able to guard an Edey, Dickinson, Lidell, he's usually outside of Wisconsin's reach...but it's been painful having Reuvers/Crowl/etc. that can shoot a little bit and can move a bit on offense but getting absolutely punished by good big men.

[midranger]

Wonder how much they're gonna be willing to pay for these transfers.

The game is evolving so there may be more and more big-time guys on the move, but I think this is a bit oversold.

Hey, I get and understand that Chucky Hepburn getting a few grand for tweeting out about Raising Cane's could be huge for him, but...

In basketball recent years, there are like 10 *huge* transfers that can either be All Conference contributors or NBA prospects (think the Hausers, Walker Kessler recently).

After that list of 10 big-time gets I'm sure there are like 50 "he could fit nicely in the lineup" type of guys. I'm assuming you're not going to have to pay much or anything at all to get the next Xavier Johnson (a nice starting PG for Indiana, not anywhere near an All Conference team).

Beyond that, you're in Chris Vogt and Jahcobi Neath territory. Are you asking a booster/sponser group to gather $50k for that?

We might want to get in the game for one big-time guy in that top 50 or so grouping to start at guard/wing in Davis' stead. Beyond that, I doubt we'd be doing much in the money game.

I’m not sure what category they fall into, but a minnesota and Penn State transfer basically scored all the points for ISU.

Not reason we couldn’t get a couple guys of that ilk/quality.

[MikeIsGood]

Wonder how much they're gonna be willing to pay for these transfers.

The game is evolving so there may be more and more big-time guys on the move, but I think this is a bit oversold.

Hey, I get and understand that Chucky Hepburn getting a few grand for tweeting out about Raising Cane's could be huge for him, but...

In basketball recent years, there are like 10 *huge* transfers that can either be All Conference contributors or NBA prospects (think the Hausers, Walker Kessler recently).

After that list of 10 big-time gets I'm sure there are like 50 "he could fit nicely in the lineup" type of guys. I'm assuming you're not going to have to pay much or anything at all to get the next Xavier Johnson (a nice starting PG for Indiana, not anywhere near an All Conference team).

Beyond that, you're in Chris Vogt and Jahcobi Neath territory. Are you asking a booster/sponser group to gather $50k for that?

We might want to get in the game for one big-time guy in that top 50 or so grouping to start at guard/wing in Davis' stead. Beyond that, I doubt we'd be doing much in the money game.

I’m not sure what category they fall into, but a minnesota and Penn State transfer basically scored all the points for ISU.

Not reason we couldn’t get a couple guys of that ilk/quality.

And a bad Minnesota transfer, at that. I still can't believe Kalscheur looked like Kobe against us. It was making me queasy.

[Kerb Hohl]

Wonder how much they're gonna be willing to pay for these transfers.

The game is evolving so there may be more and more big-time guys on the move, but I think this is a bit oversold.

Hey, I get and understand that Chucky Hepburn getting a few grand for tweeting out about Raising Cane's could be huge for him, but...

In basketball recent years, there are like 10 *huge* transfers that can either be All Conference contributors or NBA prospects (think the Hausers, Walker Kessler recently).

After that list of 10 big-time gets I'm sure there are like 50 "he could fit nicely in the lineup" type of guys. I'm assuming you're not going to have to pay much or anything at all to get the next Xavier Johnson (a nice starting PG for Indiana, not anywhere near an All Conference team).

Beyond that, you're in Chris Vogt and Jahcobi Neath territory. Are you asking a booster/sponser group to gather $50k for that?

We might want to get in the game for one big-time guy in that top 50 or so grouping to start at guard/wing in Davis' stead. Beyond that, I doubt we'd be doing much in the money game.

I’m not sure what category they fall into, but a minnesota and Penn State transfer basically scored all the points for ISU.

Not reason we couldn’t get a couple guys of that ilk/quality.

Definitely. I think in a given year that we need that, we can get it. To be fair, though, we got a high major transfer in Neath. He was clearly of lower pedigree coming in, but that makes sense. Our entire lineup was full going into the year, for better or worse. Kalscheur and Brockington could be talked into ISU given they had those spots open.

We will have at the very least one starting guard/wing spot to sell this year. Maybe two pending Bowman.

[Kerb Hohl]

Also, to clarify my response to RS's post about paying for transfers, what I was saying was that maybe 10-15 guys will be worthy of any sort of substantial NIL we'd maybe have to "pay" for.

Beyond that it's just lineup filler. I'm sure if we got the equivalent of Iziah Brockington we could say, "yeah, sure, if you come here I'm guessing the local Raising Cane's will match the $2,000 sponsorship deal that Florida State's guy was offering you."