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Post#1741 » by raferfenix » Tue Aug 8, 2023 1:14 pm

Curious to see whether Jae resigning was more an Ibaka sunk cost situation (where we’ll similarly hear about it from Crowder if so) or if both sides are seriously enticed by him playing significantly alongside Giannis at the 5.

Eric Nehm points out how little we went there under Bud, as well as Connaughton’s potential importance to a switch everything defensive lineup.

That could also impact the Bobby vs Pat calculus in trade scenarios if we decide to give up 1 + Grayson.

As far as using Antetokounmpo at center, the lineup listed above provides an interesting “small-ball” option, but it remains a total mystery, despite it being a possibility last season.

According to Cleaning the Glass, last season the “Big Three plus Connaughton and Crowder” lineup never saw the floor during the regular season or the playoffs. There were injuries to Antetokounmpo, Crowder and Middleton that limited the overall opportunities to play that lineup, but it was still a shock, considering Budenholzer used a “Big Three plus Connaughton and P.J. Tucker” lineup for nearly 10 percent of the team’s postseason possessions during the Bucks’ 2021 championship run.

Overall, this lineup is interesting to me because, while it is technically a “small-ball” look, it features great size. While Budenholzer deployed Crowder at small forward for 37 percent of his possessions last season, the 6-foot-6 forward spent 97 percent of his time on the floor as a power forward in two seasons with the Suns. In Milwaukee, Connaughton has regularly shown an ability to go up the ladder and defend bigger players as well, which would help the Bucks put together a stout unit to handle teams with more size than the Bucks.

Defensively, this unit might need to rely on more switching because of an overall lack of elite quickness, but that would seem like a welcome feature of such a unit after years of watching the Bucks play man-to-man with drop coverage. Offensively, Antetokounmpo would be surrounded by capable shooters, and the team’s three best playmakers would be on the floor to make up for the fact that Connaughton and Crowder tend to be used as stationary shooters.


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Post#1742 » by emunney » Wed Aug 9, 2023 1:39 pm

Occurs to me that if the Knicks aren't going to trade Q, there's really no imaginable role for Deuce. Would be a great guy to pluck, starter upside on both ends.
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Post#1743 » by Ron Swanson » Wed Aug 9, 2023 1:47 pm

Totally get the Quickley stuff, but the Miles McBride love is baffling to me. First two seasons he's looked like Killian Hayes without the talent/pedigree. What am I missing?
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Post#1744 » by raferfenix » Wed Aug 9, 2023 2:30 pm

If the Hawks give up on Siakam, do we think they turn to Bobby?

His contract must be especially attractive given their tax concerns.

Bucks and Bogdan have history of course. But idk the extent to which he fits with the new call for speed. Coach Griffin might also want to target AJ Griffin but I have no idea how well he’d fit.

Atlanta being willing to give up a haul for Pascal means they’d have plenty of assets to put into play for Portis if only in a multi-team trade.
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Post#1745 » by Ron Swanson » Wed Aug 9, 2023 2:38 pm

I'd still do Bobby + Grayson for Bogdan, but at this point I'd expect an asset coming back.
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Post#1746 » by emunney » Wed Aug 9, 2023 3:47 pm

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Post#1747 » by RiotPunch » Wed Aug 9, 2023 6:18 pm

Getting bored over here.

MKE: Powell, Hyland
PHI: Mann, Allen, Morris, LAC '28 1st, LAC '30 1st
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Post#1748 » by RiotPunch » Wed Aug 9, 2023 6:23 pm

MKE: Green, Holmes
ATL: Portis, Allen
DAL: Capela
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Post#1749 » by fan230 » Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:02 am

Maybe we should bring Brandon Jennings back, this time as a 2way as we don’t have other openings. He could be the backup point guard we are missing. Worth considering I think.
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Post#1750 » by Badgerlander » Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:02 am

fan230 wrote:Maybe we should bring Brandon Jennings back, this time as a 2way as we don’t have other openings. He could be the backup point guard we are missing. Worth considering I think.


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Post#1751 » by fan230 » Thu Aug 10, 2023 3:28 pm

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fan230 wrote:Maybe we should bring Brandon Jennings back, this time as a 2way as we don’t have other openings. He could be the backup point guard we are missing. Worth considering I think.


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Post#1753 » by soxperry » Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:47 pm

engelmartin wrote:I forgot the best news of the offseason! Streetlife is back next season. That's worth at least 3 or 4 wins.


for real? that really takes me back. my biggest complaint with the Fiserv experience is that it just feels like it lacks something that makes it feel truly unique to Milwaukee. The revolving between action "talent" and all the mega corp promotions. Any time i've gone to Lambeau or, to a lesser but still significant degree, Miller Park, i feel like i'm getting something that only happens at that place. Fiserv feels like those wal mart sugar cookies. 2.99, bite in and taste the air.

But this helps and i love it. idk what Melanie's role is now but if she's not groovin on the court with Streetlife it's going to take a little of the joy out of it.
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Post#1754 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Fri Aug 11, 2023 12:54 am

raferfenix wrote:Curious to see whether Jae resigning was more an Ibaka sunk cost situation (where we’ll similarly hear about it from Crowder if so) or if both sides are seriously enticed by him playing significantly alongside Giannis at the 5.

Eric Nehm points out how little we went there under Bud, as well as Connaughton’s potential importance to a switch everything defensive lineup.

That could also impact the Bobby vs Pat calculus in trade scenarios if we decide to give up 1 + Grayson.

As far as using Antetokounmpo at center, the lineup listed above provides an interesting “small-ball” option, but it remains a total mystery, despite it being a possibility last season.

According to Cleaning the Glass, last season the “Big Three plus Connaughton and Crowder” lineup never saw the floor during the regular season or the playoffs. There were injuries to Antetokounmpo, Crowder and Middleton that limited the overall opportunities to play that lineup, but it was still a shock, considering Budenholzer used a “Big Three plus Connaughton and P.J. Tucker” lineup for nearly 10 percent of the team’s postseason possessions during the Bucks’ 2021 championship run.

Overall, this lineup is interesting to me because, while it is technically a “small-ball” look, it features great size. While Budenholzer deployed Crowder at small forward for 37 percent of his possessions last season, the 6-foot-6 forward spent 97 percent of his time on the floor as a power forward in two seasons with the Suns. In Milwaukee, Connaughton has regularly shown an ability to go up the ladder and defend bigger players as well, which would help the Bucks put together a stout unit to handle teams with more size than the Bucks.

Defensively, this unit might need to rely on more switching because of an overall lack of elite quickness, but that would seem like a welcome feature of such a unit after years of watching the Bucks play man-to-man with drop coverage. Offensively, Antetokounmpo would be surrounded by capable shooters, and the team’s three best playmakers would be on the floor to make up for the fact that Connaughton and Crowder tend to be used as stationary shooters.


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Playing the big 3 plus PJ and pat was probably more about us having 6 useful players late in 2021 more than us actually wanting to play it.
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Post#1755 » by Matches Malone » Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:26 am

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Post#1756 » by emunney » Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:49 am

Nice. I like all those matchups. Good job, NBA.
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Post#1757 » by Daver » Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:09 am

emunney wrote:Nice. I like all those matchups. Good job, NBA.



I dont know why the hell not rhe Cs n the heat thats the new rivalry.Its not the 1980s the celts laker rivalry is dead.Christ silver stop throwing old rivalrys down our throats sixers n heat make no sence
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Post#1758 » by MickeyDavis » Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:20 am

emunney wrote:Nice. I like all those matchups. Good job, NBA.

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Post#1759 » by emunney » Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:35 am

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emunney wrote:Nice. I like all those matchups. Good job, NBA.

Every year I care less and less about the regular season ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


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Post#1760 » by raferfenix » Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:24 pm

Keeping an eye on Orlando’s backcourt glut.

To keep its backcourt intact, Orlando is going to have to spend some money to retain both Markelle Fultz, upgrading him from his $17 million salary this coming season, and Cole Anthony, who will be coming off a rookie contract worth $5.5 million this season and will surely double and perhaps even triple.

This is going to change the Magic’s books and take at least a bite into the team’s financial flexibility and projected cap room. In reality, Orlando is probably going to operate with a similar $20-25 million in cap room next summer.

What makes it difficult is that both Anthony and Fultz have earned consideration to secure their bag before the season begins and certainly in the offseason for whatever they can get.

Anthony has improved his effective field goal percentage (51.6 percent), his finishing and his 3-point shooting (36.4 percent) every year, all while being a top rebounding guard — his 9.1 percent total rebound rate was 13th among guards who averaged at least 20 minutes per game. He is a fan favorite and unquestionably a positive locker-room presence.

Markelle Fultz is the leader of the team, he sets the tone and has the ball at the end of the game. His effective field goal percentage has increased every year to 53.4 percent ahead of guys like OG Anonoby and Jimmy Butler.

Fultz facilitates the offense and impacts winning, as we saw in the team’s turnaround last season when he came back from his fractured toe. The team was 29-28 with Fultz playing his regular minutes and he seemed to continue to get better.

The Magic are going to have to spend on their players at some point. And this question is at the center of how the Magic spend this offseason. What does this team with extensions look like?


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