Giannis Thread - On Asking for a Trade - "I am not this kind of guy, they would have to kick me out”.

[paulpressey25]

The will he want out/will he be traded angle is actually a great strategy for the off season. Giannis plays it well.

It only works if we’re parting with the 2031 or 2032. I don’t want to do that.

[Prez]

Giannis is in the prime of his career and just looked like *at worst* the 2nd best player in the world in our playoff series and frankly to me #1. Do not let these **** clowns in the media try to gaslight us about his value. If he's on the table we better be getting EVERYTHING. Look at what Mikal **** Bridges went for. Rudy Gobert.

If Houston isn't offering Amen, Reed, Jabari, and a ton of 1sts, piss off. If San Antonio isn't offering #2, Castle, #14, and a ton of other 1sts, piss off. OKC quite frankly can piss off entirely, Jdub is a fraudster and Chet isn't a franchise centerpiece.

[Dick Tate]

The will he want out/will he be traded angle is actually a great strategy for the off season. Giannis plays it well.

It only works if we’re parting with the 2031 or 2032. I don’t want to do that.

I look at it more from the angle of other teams stalling out their off-season plans. I wouldn't surprised if he told Horst he's going to wait until Media Day to say he's happy where he's at.

[humanrefutation]

Assuming Giannis cannot extend until 2026, I'm not sure we can risk waiting. He is under contract for two more years, and October 2026 puts him in the final year of his deal. You don't want to go into next summer with him on a one year deal, especially after a lost season. Our potential return will be significantly less.

The Bucks don't look set up for success next year. With Doc still in tow, there is no new, fresh, brilliant head coach coming in who can turn our fortunes around. We don't have many exciting tradeable assets. We have our 2031 and 2032 picks, but the potential return for either pick is questionable, and I'm terrified at the thought of moving them with Giannis potentially wanting out.

We can keep Giannis and hope for the best. He's shown himself to be loyal to this franchise and city. And hell, maybe next offseason we make enough radical changes to the roster that Giannis decides to extend. But it's a major risk.

I’d take the risk. If we have to trade Giannis later on and get less value, so be it. I’m riding out the Giannis prime years as long as possible and try to improve the team enough around the edges. I still think it’s our best move.

Maybe we get lucky with other teams having injuries in the playoffs or them having to ship out good players because of the second apron. Maybe Horst hits on a few underrated pickups. Maybe some internal player improvement works out better than expected. If we hire a good coach next season, our chances of contention get even better. Point being, with a generational superstar, it doesn’t take much to get back to title contention.

True, but we had that generational superstar on the roster this year. He was healthy for the playoffs. And we got sent home in a first round exit.

To be clear, I'm not blaming Giannis for that. But apparently, we're planning to roll on with Horst and Doc, the same dudes who led us to the point we currently are in, but now with Dame injured. If we had a new FO or HC coming through, I'd be more optimistic. But we don't. What makes you think that they'll turn it around? Horst will need nail this offseason and Doc will have to be, well, something he hasn't been (a good coach). Do you believe that can happen?

[emunney]

The will he want out/will he be traded angle is actually a great strategy for the off season. Giannis plays it well.

It only works if we’re parting with the 2031 or 2032. I don’t want to do that.

Would you do it for Markkanen?

[emunney]

When is Giannis eligible to sign an extension? I obviously don't expect him to rush it, and I bet he'll wait until the cards fall into place this season to decide his future.

October 1st, 2026 according to Spotrac. Which is why all the "they need to get out in front of this" media talk is hilarious. You have two full off-seasons to re-tool and convince Giannis to re-sign unless he forces your hand.

I'm pretty sure it's 2 years after he signed his last extension, which would make it 10/23/25.

[CharityStripe34]

The will he want out/will he be traded angle is actually a great strategy for the off season. Giannis plays it well.

It only works if we’re parting with the 2031 or 2032. I don’t want to do that.

Would you do it for Markkanen?

Yes.

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[Ron Swanson]

The will he want out/will he be traded angle is actually a great strategy for the off season. Giannis plays it well.

It only works if we’re parting with the 2031 or 2032. I don’t want to do that.

Would you do it for Markkanen?

Absolutely not. Feels like Lauri is still living off the hype from that MIP year in a lot of trade discussions. I think he's closer to being a Top-10 worst contract in basketball next season than he is to being a positive trade asset. Although, if Giannis says that would get him to sign on the dotted line......yes.

[VooDoo7]

These national media big mouths crack me up. Windy saying Golden State may even be willing to add Podz in a package for Giannis. Ya think?? Wow, lucky us! Holy **** I'm not sure some of these idiots truly know how good Giannis is. It's like they pay NO attention to the Milwaukee Bucks. It's like I'm in the twilight zone or something.

BTW, far as I know Giannis hasn't said ANYTHING to the team about possibly wanting to leave.

[jakecronus8]

When is Giannis eligible to sign an extension? I obviously don't expect him to rush it, and I bet he'll wait until the cards fall into place this season to decide his future.

October 1st, 2026 according to Spotrac. Which is why all the "they need to get out in front of this" media talk is hilarious. You have two full off-seasons to re-tool and convince Giannis to re-sign unless he forces your hand.

I'm pretty sure it's 2 years after he signed his last extension, which would make it 10/23/25.

GAD verified. 2026

[mke_design]

These national media big mouths crack me up. Windy saying Golden State may even be willing to add Podz in a package for Giannis. Ya think?? Wow, lucky us! Holy **** I'm not sure some of these idiots truly know how good Giannis is. It's like they pay NO attention to the Milwaukee Bucks. It's like I'm in the twilight zone or something.

BTW, far as I know Giannis hasn't said ANYTHING to the team about possibly wanting to leave.

This seems obvious but everyone taking the bait might be more obvious

[VooDoo7]

These national media big mouths crack me up. Windy saying Golden State may even be willing to add Podz in a package for Giannis. Ya think?? Wow, lucky us! Holy **** I'm not sure some of these idiots truly know how good Giannis is. It's like they pay NO attention to the Milwaukee Bucks. It's like I'm in the twilight zone or something.

BTW, far as I know Giannis hasn't said ANYTHING to the team about possibly wanting to leave.

This seems obvious but everyone taking the bait might be more obvious

Just once I'd like to see Giannis come out and drop the mic by saying "I have never once even entertained the idea of playing anywhere else...these people have no clue what they're talking about". I'd love to see the reactions from all these morons.

[humanrefutation]

These national media big mouths crack me up. Windy saying Golden State may even be willing to add Podz in a package for Giannis. Ya think?? Wow, lucky us! Holy **** I'm not sure some of these idiots truly know how good Giannis is. It's like they pay NO attention to the Milwaukee Bucks. It's like I'm in the twilight zone or something.

BTW, far as I know Giannis hasn't said ANYTHING to the team about possibly wanting to leave.

These national media hacks have long believed that the Bucks didn't deserve to have Giannis, so it doesn't surprise me that they think the Bucks should accept whatever measly package their preferred destinations would offer.

My concern is less about their opinion, and more about Horst's ability to strike a good deal. He's shown the ability to trade picks for established stars, for better and worse. But he hasn't shown the ability to properly identify and acquire the kind of young, valuable assets that this team would need to get for Giannis.

[tedbrogen]

That Spurs package is probably still the best if Giannis asks out (#2, #14, Castle, Atlanta picks) but I'm kinda out on Devin Vassell as any sort of potential building block type player. He low-key kinda sucks. Keldon Johnson/Barnes as salary filler with a few more additional firsts/swaps is much more preferable IMO.

This and it’s better for both sides if Vassell stays with them and the Bucks get more picks.

[aboveAverage]

Assuming Giannis cannot extend until 2026, I'm not sure we can risk waiting. He is under contract for two more years, and October 2026 puts him in the final year of his deal. You don't want to go into next summer with him on a one year deal, especially after a lost season. Our potential return will be significantly less.

The Bucks don't look set up for success next year. With Doc still in tow, there is no new, fresh, brilliant head coach coming in who can turn our fortunes around. We don't have many exciting tradeable assets. We have our 2031 and 2032 picks, but the potential return for either pick is questionable, and I'm terrified at the thought of moving them with Giannis potentially wanting out.

We can keep Giannis and hope for the best. He's shown himself to be loyal to this franchise and city. And hell, maybe next offseason we make enough radical changes to the roster that Giannis decides to extend. But it's a major risk.

I’d take the risk. If we have to trade Giannis later on and get less value, so be it. I’m riding out the Giannis prime years as long as possible and try to improve the team enough around the edges. I still think it’s our best move.

Maybe we get lucky with other teams having injuries in the playoffs or them having to ship out good players because of the second apron. Maybe Horst hits on a few underrated pickups. Maybe some internal player improvement works out better than expected. If we hire a good coach next season, our chances of contention get even better. Point being, with a generational superstar, it doesn’t take much to get back to title contention.

True, but we had that generational superstar on the roster this year. He was healthy for the playoffs. And we got sent home in a first round exit.

To be clear, I'm not blaming Giannis for that. But apparently, we're planning to roll on with Horst and Doc, the same dudes who led us to the point we currently are in, but now with Dame injured. If we had a new FO or HC coming through, I'd be more optimistic. But we don't. What makes you think that they'll turn it around? Horst will need nail this offseason and Doc will have to be, well, something he hasn't been (a good coach). Do you believe that can happen?

Yes I do. I think Doc may be fired next season after a slow start. Maybe even this summer if Giannis is on board with it (probably not though).

Yes, we had Giannis this season and we lost in the first round. The team wasn’t good enough, I agree. But I think it can be improved enough in the next two seasons so that we get back into contention again. A lot of fluctuation will happen in the coming two off seasons as the second apron starts affecting other teams. Teams like Boston and Cleveland with major injuries and potential playoff disappointment will look to offload some of their good role players to avoid the second apron tax. Might happen to OKC too. We will be in a good position next offseason to make some deals.

[machu46]

Mannix was basically saying that the report that Giannis is open to playing for other teams now was Giannis' nice way of saying he wants out, and if Milwaukee holds onto him for another year, he won't be as nice about it next offseason. And he said Giannis has made it clear to anyone that will listen that he doesn't want to be like Dirk, wasting his remaining years on a team with no chance to win. I stopped listening shortly thereafter lol.

Related to Mannix where he was right was talking about victory totals. Team won 48 games with Dame playing 58 games. Do the Bucks now work the heck out of Giannis to get to 41 wins? Doesn’t Giannis then want out next year with a 41 win team.

I’m not a big believer that Dame is/was the answer at PG. That said, his volume stats help you get regular season wins and give Giannis a night off.

I get that, but he was also saying the best player we can get this offseason is someone like Cam Payne. I have to imagine we can do much better than that with the NTMLE at our disposal. I mean, KPJ alone would be a much more preferable option than Payne IMO and I don't even really like KPJ lol.

I also thought his comment that OKC would probably be more willing to trade for Giannis if he was on a $20 million per year kind of contract was just ridiculous. I get that it becomes tougher to retain depth once you have Giannis and Shai both on max deals, but (1) it's still doable and (2) you'd also have two of the top 3 players in the NBA.

I was at least thankful that even with some of his takes being ridiculous IMO, he did at least say Brooklyn falling to #8 in this year's draft eliminates them from being a Giannis contender. The Giannis-Brooklyn buzz is just complete nonsense IMO; they are not capable of making a competitive offer.

[Bernman]

That Spurs package is probably still the best if Giannis asks out (#2, #14, Castle, Atlanta picks) but I'm kinda out on Devin Vassell as any sort of potential building block type player. He low-key kinda sucks. Keldon Johnson/Barnes as salary filler with a few more additional firsts/swaps is much more preferable IMO.

This and it’s better for both sides if Vassell stays with them and the Bucks get more picks.

Better yet he's involved in the deal but redirected to a 3rd team who needs scoring now, while we get more prospects San Antonio doesn't have for us beyond Castle. We would rather have the prospects because Horst can't identify pre-NBA talent & it expedites the rebuild.

If we get picks too, I want them in the next few drafts. Get your core you're going to improve w/ from the start. If they're spread out it takes too much time, & when you're at the next wave the 1st one may be looking to move on. Also want to render those lost '28-30 picks largely moot.

Of course as part of the deal we need to fold in NO to get our own '26-'27 picks back from them by taking on the Murray contract.

[machu46]

These national media big mouths crack me up. Windy saying Golden State may even be willing to add Podz in a package for Giannis. Ya think?? Wow, lucky us! Holy **** I'm not sure some of these idiots truly know how good Giannis is. It's like they pay NO attention to the Milwaukee Bucks. It's like I'm in the twilight zone or something.

BTW, far as I know Giannis hasn't said ANYTHING to the team about possibly wanting to leave.

This seems obvious but everyone taking the bait might be more obvious

Just once I'd like to see Giannis come out and drop the mic by saying "I have never once even entertained the idea of playing anywhere else...these people have no clue what they're talking about". I'd love to see the reactions from all these morons.

One of Giannis' lone "faults" is that he doesn't seem to like speaking in absolutes because he doesn't want to say something 100% definitive and then end up going back on his word at some point. The comment in the title of this thread is one of the very few times he's really said something super definitive AFAIK.

[machu46]

The will he want out/will he be traded angle is actually a great strategy for the off season. Giannis plays it well.

It only works if we’re parting with the 2031 or 2032. I don’t want to do that.

Would you do it for Markkanen?

Would we still be playing Giannis as a forward with Markkanen and therefore be running some sort of giant lineup with Giannis and Mark as the forwards and (insert name here) as the center? I'd probably still do it but that would put a damper on my excitement I think.

Gut feeling is Utah can get more for him than just our 1st round pick and matching salaries though he is admittedly coming off a disappointing year.

[Frank Nova]

The will he want out/will he be traded angle is actually a great strategy for the off season. Giannis plays it well.

It only works if we’re parting with the 2031 or 2032. I don’t want to do that.

Would you do it for Markkanen?

Definitely.