Arena Construction - Make pitch for ASG in 22/23. pg 95

[Bernman]

https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nba/bucks/2018/01/05/bucks-arena-milestone-season-ticket-sales-2018-19-begin-friday-morning/1005736001/

Some fans have expressed surprise about the higher prices the Bucks are charging for games at the new arena. Some season ticket holders have said their current seats at the BMO Harris Bradley Center will cost about twice for the same location in the new arena.

The Bucks point out, however, that the new arena is being built for professional basketball, will have state of the art amenities and bring the fans in all seats much closer to the court."

That's a relief. I'm glad it's not being built for minor league jai alai.

What good are the amenities if the season ticket holders even don't have access to many of them? These guys are snakes.

[HaroldinGMinor]

The plan all along was for season ticket holders only so it was never intended for the general public. They've narrowed that to suite and club level folks.

From March 2016:
https://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/news/2016/03/30/bucks-arena-skywalk-transitions-from-concept-to.html?ana=twt

The Bucks' plan is for the skywalk to connect the third floor of the new parking garage with the main concourse level of the arena, Suski said.

Why do the Bucks owners want a skywalk?

“It enhances the experience for event attendees and season ticket holders throughout the year and offers a convenience that many future attendees desire,” Suski said via email.

[MickeyDavis]

Every arena has amenities for the suite holders and high priced ticket holders. That is nothing new that LED dreamed up. That said, the skywalk thing is ridiculous.

[Black_Dragon]

Every arena has amenities for the suite holders and high priced ticket holders. That is nothing new that LED dreamed up. That said, the skywalk thing is ridiculous.

Again, did Alex respond?

Gianstoppable- was the skywalk thing confirmed by Alex Lasry? Or are we still basing it off that article?

[HaroldinGMinor]

Curious how much more expensive the Miller Park box seats were in their first season vs. County Stadium box seats it's last season.

[Buck Dweller]

let’s be fair guys, if anyone deserves a grand WWE entrance into the arena, away from the cold, it’s the folks who pull up in that warm heated-seat 2017 Lexus.

[Black_Dragon]

I guess I don't understand what's making everyone upset about the ramp. How is it any different than parking at Miller Park? I'd assume ticket holders get first crack at the spots directly outside of the stadium, then if there are any spots left over the public will pay a premium for premium parking.

Unless the skywalk leads directly to the suite level and you need special access to even walk across it. That's where my confusion is at.

[Buck Dweller]

Get used to the Corporate Bucks, guys.

[gyp]

How is it any different than parking at Miller Park? I'd assume ticket holders get first crack at the spots directly outside of the stadium, then if there are any spots left over the public will pay a premium for premium parking.

There are two tiers of parking at Miller Park. "General" and "Preferred" Anybody who pays the general or preferred rate can park in your respective lot. You buy it ahead of time at a discount or pay a higher price on the day of the game. I could park in the preferred lot, tailgate then leave if I wanted to. You don't need a ticket to access any parking lot there.

[Black_Dragon]

How is it any different than parking at Miller Park? I'd assume ticket holders get first crack at the spots directly outside of the stadium, then if there are any spots left over the public will pay a premium for premium parking.

There are two tiers of parking at Miller Park. "General" and "Preferred" Anybody who pays the general or preferred rate can park in your respective lot. You buy it ahead of time at a discount or pay a higher price on the day of the game. I could park in the preferred lot, tailgate then leave if I wanted to. You don't need a ticket to access any parking lot there.

I don't have Brewer's season tix, but I'd assume the season holders get first crack at parking passes correct? (Now granted those lots are huge compared to this ramp). This is where I'm confused on the outrage, how is this any different than any other arena/stadium?

So someone who donates $1k to Wisconsin Football deserves to park right next to the $3M donor?

I'm not sticking up for the corporations (I actually HATE it), but thats how this business/world works.

[midranger]

How does the old saying go?

Publicize the costs, privatize the skywalks?

[averageposter]

The parking garage is open to anyone, the skywalk to suite level ticketholders. So you can pay to park in the garage, but you will have had to hold top tier tickets to use the skywalk. That's how its different, and if it does enter the general concourse that doesn't make much sense. And if you add that the structure was the cities contribution it looks worse. I personally wouldn't park there anyway for the hassle of leaving and the extra cost attached to its proximity but it's lame.

[Black_Dragon]

The parking garage is open to anyone, the skywalk to suite level ticketholders. So you can pay to park in the garage, but you will have had to hold top tier tickets to use the skywalk. That's how its different, and if it does enter the general concourse that doesn't make much sense. And if you add that the structure was the cities contribution it looks worse. I personally wouldn't park there anyway for the hassle of leaving and the extra cost attached to its proximity but it's lame.

If this is the case then I take back everything I said. Really really dumb! Why not have a escalator down to the main concourse once you get into the arena for those that don't have access to the suite.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

Isn’t this what people who wanted the new stadium thought they were going to get? More expensive luxuries. I was fine with the box but knew the new stadium was necessary to keep the team and it was going to make every nice aka exclusive/cost more

[gyp]

I don't have Brewer's season tix, but I'd assume the season holders get first crack at parking passes correct?

Yes but it’s for convenience purposes and not because of demand. Even for the most heavily attended games anyone can pre pay for a preferred pass anytime up to the day before the game. Sometimes they’ll only allow access on the day of the game to those who already have the preferred pass but most games you can pay the preferrred rate and park in the lot all the way up until game time.

[HaroldinGMinor]

A skywalk for every voter!

[averageposter]

Isn’t this what people who wanted the new stadium thought they were going to get? More expensive luxuries. I was fine with the box but knew the new stadium was necessary to keep the team and it was going to make every nice aka exclusive/cost more

I guess I thought inside the new arena sure. The people paying 100K for 41 games instead of 10K have the incentive of extras on top of the view always did its just they are more and different than before, I get it. But outside the arena in a parking garage the guy paying $30 to park can't walk into the arena via the skywalk delivered by the city, because he didn't pay $30 bucks to park and 100K to sit inside? Seems off to me, but maybe this is the new normal to bend people over outside the arena as well.

[MickeyDavis]

The political rhetoric and personal attacks need to stop. Now.

Yeah it seems ridiculous about the skywalk since everyone pays to park there but the "outrage" of some that the more you pay for tickets the more perks you get? That's life.

[HaroldinGMinor]

Apologies in advance to whomever I offend, but I find it funny that THIS is the thing that puts you over the edge. Not the 1/4 billion in public funds. It's the fact that you have to walk on the sidewalk to the arena and other people don't have to.

[midranger]

Apologies in advance to whomever I offend, but I find it funny that THIS is the thing that puts you over the edge. Not the 1/4 billion in public funds. It's the fact that you have to walk on the sidewalk to the arena and other people don't have to.

I wasn't too cool with that either.