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Re: OT: TV and Movies 

Post#1781 » by ReasonablySober » Mon Jul 8, 2024 6:27 pm

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jimmybones wrote:Yes, that last HOTD was top tier!

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Is Aegon dead? Seemed like Aemond was going to finish the job until Cole showed up.

Cole sucks.

Daemon's crazy little side quest is kinda fun.


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I know GoT logic has resulted in major characters surviving worse predicaments, but I think it'd already be a major jump the shark moment if that didn't kill him. And yes, Cole sucks lol. But I imagine we're already seeing the factions within the houses being split and that's what's going to make the rest of the season interesting.

Cole saw how **** bringing the dragons into war is (nuclear weapons parallel), so it's gonna be fun to see how him and Alicent try and influence things now that they're the only two who seem to regret what they helped unleash. Aegon was useless but not without good intentions. Aemond on the other hand, is clearly a psychopath bent on power and revenge. I thought it was a little weird that there wasn't much build up in him being so ready to kill his brother, but I guess that's kinda the point. Daemon and Aemond are basically the same, i.e. power hungry opportunists/narcissists who feel that they should have been king instead of their brother. The Harrenhal castle dream scene was foreshadowing that. (


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You saw Aemond take out his sword as if he was going to finish off Aegon, then put it away when he heard Cole yelling.

He's alive.
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Post#1782 » by ReasonablySober » Mon Jul 8, 2024 6:29 pm

I love Aemond. Favorite GoT character in a long, long time.
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Re: OT: TV and Movies 

Post#1783 » by jimmybones » Mon Jul 8, 2024 6:32 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:
jimmybones wrote:Yes, that last HOTD was top tier!

Spoiler:
Is Aegon dead? Seemed like Aemond was going to finish the job until Cole showed up.

Cole sucks.

Daemon's crazy little side quest is kinda fun.


Spoiler:
I know GoT logic has resulted in major characters surviving worse predicaments, but I think it'd already be a major jump the shark moment if that didn't kill him. And yes, Cole sucks lol. But I imagine we're already seeing the factions within the houses being split and that's what's going to make the rest of the season interesting.

Cole saw how **** bringing the dragons into war is (nuclear weapons parallel), so it's gonna be fun to see how him and Alicent try and influence things now that they're the only two who seem to regret what they helped unleash. Aegon was useless but not without good intentions. Aemond on the other hand, is clearly a psychopath bent on power and revenge. I thought it was a little weird that there wasn't much build up in him being so ready to kill his brother, but I guess that's kinda the point. Daemon and Aemond are basically the same, i.e. power hungry opportunists/narcissists who feel that they should have been king instead of their brother. The Harrenhal castle dream scene was foreshadowing that. (



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Totally agree. The motivations of the characters and all the things that went down fit the logic of the universe other than Aegon surviving that fall, that's pretty stupid. Also kinda goofy that the biggest dragon ever was able to play stealth and a smart and experienced dragon/dragonrider flew so low without eyes on Vhagar.
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Re: OT: TV and Movies 

Post#1784 » by MickeyDavis » Mon Jul 8, 2024 6:47 pm

I really liked GoT for the most part and was going to watch HOTD last year but heard mixed things and didn't. Also heard mixed things about this season. I'll probably give S1 a shot. I'll need to give it a few episodes though, I tend to bail out of shows too early.
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Post#1785 » by ReasonablySober » Mon Jul 8, 2024 7:00 pm

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Is Sundance something that the public can attend? Because if so this would be awesome.
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Post#1786 » by emunney » Mon Jul 8, 2024 7:23 pm

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Is Sundance something that the public can attend? Because if so this would be awesome.


Yeah, I thought about it a few years back, it's close to a stack for 10 screenings now.
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Post#1787 » by humanrefutation » Mon Jul 8, 2024 8:20 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:
jimmybones wrote:Yes, that last HOTD was top tier!

Spoiler:
Is Aegon dead? Seemed like Aemond was going to finish the job until Cole showed up.

Cole sucks.

Daemon's crazy little side quest is kinda fun.


Spoiler:
I know GoT logic has resulted in major characters surviving worse predicaments, but I think it'd already be a major jump the shark moment if that didn't kill him. And yes, Cole sucks lol. But I imagine we're already seeing the factions within the houses being split and that's what's going to make the rest of the season interesting.

Cole saw how **** bringing the dragons into war is (nuclear weapons parallel), so it's gonna be fun to see how him and Alicent try and influence things now that they're the only two who seem to regret what they helped unleash. Aegon was useless but not without good intentions. Aemond on the other hand, is clearly a psychopath bent on power and revenge. I thought it was a little weird that there wasn't much build up in him being so ready to kill his brother, but I guess that's kinda the point. Daemon and Aemond are basically the same, i.e. power hungry opportunists/narcissists who feel that they should have been king instead of their brother. The Harrenhal castle dream scene was foreshadowing that. (


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I haven't read the books, but my assumption is that Aegon is either dead or so severely injured that he'll basically be exactly what Alicent, Aemond, Cole, and the Greens all wanted from him - a figurehead and nothing more.

I think there was definitely build up to Aemond's attack on Aegon. Aemond has been steady dissing his brother for a while now, going back to last season when he complained when searching for Aegon about how he (Aemond) was a more worthy heir than him. Aegon also has been **** on his brother in turn, culminating in the brothel scene. It was no surprise to me that Aemond tried to take advantage of the chaos to take out his brother and assume the throne.
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Post#1788 » by humanrefutation » Mon Jul 8, 2024 8:22 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:I really liked GoT for the most part and was going to watch HOTD last year but heard mixed things and didn't. Also heard mixed things about this season. I'll probably give S1 a shot. I'll need to give it a few episodes though, I tend to bail out of shows too early.


Season 1 is a little rough because of the huge time jumps. They're basically trying to set the stage for the Dance of the Dragons and that takes about 30 years of history condensed into a few episodes. So it's a little bumpy, but once the settle into the story towards the end of Season 1, I think it soars. Season 2 has been fantastic so far.
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Post#1789 » by M-C-G » Mon Jul 8, 2024 8:26 pm

Watched the latest Ghost Busters, meh, didn’t do anything for me. It’s a shame because the original movies shaped my childhood.
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Post#1790 » by humanrefutation » Mon Jul 8, 2024 8:26 pm

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Totally agree. The motivations of the characters and all the things that went down fit the logic of the universe other than Aegon surviving that fall, that's pretty stupid. Also kinda goofy that the biggest dragon ever was able to play stealth and a smart and experienced dragon/dragonrider flew so low without eyes on Vhagar.


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My biggest issue with the Battle of Rook's Rest is why Rhaenys turned back to go after Vhagar and Aemond. She should have flown back to Dragonstone and recruited some more Dragons to join in after Vhagar made his appearance. Maybe she felt guilty because she could have ended this whole thing at the Dragonpit during Aegon's coronation, but she needlessly sacrificed the fastest dragon in the realm (not to mention herself, a pretty valuable voice of wisdom for Rhaenyra and Corlys.)
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Re: OT: TV and Movies 

Post#1791 » by jimmybones » Mon Jul 8, 2024 8:52 pm

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jimmybones wrote:
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Totally agree. The motivations of the characters and all the things that went down fit the logic of the universe other than Aegon surviving that fall, that's pretty stupid. Also kinda goofy that the biggest dragon ever was able to play stealth and a smart and experienced dragon/dragonrider flew so low without eyes on Vhagar.


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My biggest issue with the Battle of Rook's Nest is why Rhaenys turned back to go after Vhagar and Aemond. She should have flown back to Dragonstone and recruited some more Dragons to join in after Vhagar made his appearance. Maybe she felt guilty because she could have ended this whole thing at the Dragonpit during Aegon's coronation, but she needlessly sacrificed the fastest dragon in the realm (not to mention herself, a pretty valuable voice of wisdom for Rhaenyra and Corlys.)


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From a purely rational standpoint I agree with you. I can buy her character choosing to stay and fight though.

-Meleys was already wounded by Vhagar and may not even outrun them or make it back to Dragonstone
-she doesn't even have to kill Vhagar, if she connects and torches Aemond the greens lose Aemond and Vhagar is riderless, even if the odds were against her it's a pretty worthwhile risk to try and win the war right then and there
-if she abandons that castle to be ran over by Vhagar that can't help their side with the smaller vassal houses
-but maybe most of all: she's a dragonrider by blood, I think she accepted her fate before even riding into that battle. If she wins, she basically wins the war but if she loses she gets to go out fighting for her side and with honor.
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Post#1792 » by humanrefutation » Mon Jul 8, 2024 8:52 pm

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Post#1793 » by Prez » Mon Jul 8, 2024 9:13 pm

HOTD
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The parallel between Daemon and Aemond as bitter brothers of kings who feel it should’ve been them is super interesting. Aemond trying to kill Aegon was building clearly but now Cole has actually seen him about to do it, the fallout of that in the next episode is what I’m most interested in.

Also excited to see Vermithor (the massive terrifying dragon that Daemon was singing to in the S1 finale) in action whenever it happens. 2nd biggest dragon after Vhagar, but younger/faster. Seeing how Meleys was able to hurt Vhagar, I could actually see Vermithor killing Vhagar.

Needless to say, Rhaenys went out like a G. Makes sense too, I think she realized that the risk/reward in that moment might’ve been as good as it was gonna get for them. She had already hurt Vhagar in the first interaction, if you are able to kill Aemond/Vhagar/Sunfyre and cripple Aegon you win the war right there.

I think the Daemon scenes in Harrenhal are interesting but they could’ve condensed it a bit, I’m gonna need him to get off his acid trip and get back to the battlefield asap lol. If he was around, he would’ve gotten the duo fight with Rhaenys that he wanted and Vhagar probably would be dead right now.
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Post#1794 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Jul 9, 2024 1:09 pm

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Post#1795 » by M-C-G » Tue Jul 9, 2024 1:49 pm

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Ok I’m in. Please Hollywood don’t desecrate this one!
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Post#1796 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Jul 9, 2024 2:37 pm



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Post#1797 » by HaroldinGMinor » Tue Jul 9, 2024 3:26 pm

The Bear

I'm only 5 episodes deep, but I think a show can be engaging and entertaining while not being as good as previous seasons. The bar was so high it would have been difficult to keep it going - few shows can do that and they are usually among the best of all time. Aesthetically it's still top tier.

I heard on a podcast that the showrunner had three seasons worth of storylines and Hulu asked if he could stretch it to 4 seasons. It feels that way here in season three....stuff is getting added that doesn't need to be there plot/story wise. I still love it and can't wait to see how it finishes up.
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Post#1798 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Jul 9, 2024 4:19 pm

There's definitely filler in S3. I'm fine with backstories (episodes 1 and 6 I liked a lot). Some episodes could have been cut and combined into 1. Episode 8 could have been cut completely IMO. But overall I liked S3. Well acted. S4 was shot back to back with S3, I imagine there will be some filler as well.
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Post#1799 » by FrieAaron » Tue Jul 9, 2024 4:30 pm

Keeping an open mind, but I'm not really feeling that Gladiator trailer.
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Post#1800 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Jul 9, 2024 4:38 pm

The Bikeriders was boring as ****. Tom Hardy was fine, Jodie Comer was kind of annoying, and I have absolutely no idea what the purpose of Austin Butler was in this movie. He just sits around with the same dopey look on his face for two hours. Does literally nothing the entire run-time.

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